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Thread: Two Hunting Styles at once - Possible or Just Frustrating?

  1. Default Two Hunting Styles at once - Possible or Just Frustrating?

    Dusted off the Ranger the last few days, at the moment it looks like this -


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    XXXXXX(at level 16), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
      Skill Name                         | Current Current
                                         |   Bonus   Ranks
      Armor Use..........................|      82      18
      Shield Use.........................|      50      10
      Combat Maneuvers...................|      78      17
      Edged Weapons......................|     124      32
      Ranged Weapons.....................|     128      34
      Ambush.............................|      70      15
      Physical Fitness...................|      74      16
      Dodging............................|      50      10
      Harness Power......................|      74      16
      Survival...........................|      82      18
      Stalking and Hiding................|     105      25
      Perception.........................|     117      29
      Climbing...........................|      45       9
      Swimming...........................|      15       3
      First Aid..........................|      45       9
    
    Spell Lists
      Ranger.............................|              16
    Training Points: 1 Phy 0 Mnt
    (Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)
    Sort of all over the place, I know. As I recall, the idea was to be able to switch between bow and ohe/shield whenever it suits. Archery is fun, but sometimes you just want to sneak around and cut things to bits with an axe.

    Hunting is easy so far, but...it's level 16, of course it's easy. What I suspect is that as levels increase, the fact that skills for neither style are maximized will only cause more and more problems. There just may not be enough training points to get it done. Difficult is fine. Sub-par to the point of ineffectiveness is not.

    Opinions? Thoughts? Advice? Laughter?

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    It's possible.

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    You're low on shield use and dodging, but you'll probaby do well enough as long as you don't get forced out of hiding and catch some unlucky rolls.

    Archery does best when you're 2x'ed in perception and ambush, and I think at level 16 you're still in the 'ranged hunting sucks' phase.

    I dunno. I don't see anything that couldn't be solved with a few more ranks, but I'd imagine your stats are pretty shot.
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    It can be a lot of fun until you min/max later if you ever feel the need to go there.

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    You can do both, but not well. I've variously been edged/ranged, brawling/ranged, and THW/ranged, and the only one that really works is brawling/ranged. I think here you'll either need to do two styles and give up ambushing/hiding or sacrifice a lot of magical skills to make it work. Still, do what's fun!
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    Maybe drop shield and put that into dodge. Pup was 1x ambush and hiding each for many lvls with little issue so maybe 1x them and add extra ranks as you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmwcincy View Post
    Maybe drop shield and put that into dodge. Pup was 1x ambush and hiding each for many lvls with little issue so maybe 1x them and add extra ranks as you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BriarFox View Post
    You can do both, but not well. I've variously been edged/ranged, brawling/ranged, and THW/ranged, and the only one that really works is brawling/ranged. I think here you'll either need to do two styles and give up ambushing/hiding or sacrifice a lot of magical skills to make it work. Still, do what's fun!
    What does the core training for brawl/ranged look like?

    I've been messing around with training in the mangler and I'm able to come up with:

    29 Ranger

    2x Ranged
    2x Brawling
    2x Perception

    1.5x PP

    1x HP
    1x Dodge
    1x Survival

    Other:
    Spells 29 ranger, 3 MnS
    35 ranks of armor for chain
    19 ranks of SMC
    30 Climb
    30 Swim

    Would lack of CM and MoC hurt this build?

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    Dodging and/or shield use needs to be at least 1x or its just a waste of TPs, IMHO. 2x'd perception really begins to show in the 30s and 40s for aimed arrow shots, otherwise if you're not going to be aiming your shots 1x should be enough. At your level, I put a lot into ambush and S&H and shot from hiding a lot; for later levels I think just standing in the open and shooting is better due to the reduced RT.

    As someone noted above, I think a two-combat-styles ranger is feasible, but you're going to have to give something up, probably magic. I see you're already doing that, with no training in the 100 circle.

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    Semi old thread, but thanks, folks. Level 19 now and decided to go the ranged route(surprise!..ok, not really.). I have a Rogue for OHE/Shield ambushing I suppose. Feels sort of pigeon-holed but it's fun. Looks like this so far -

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     XXXXXXXX(at level 19), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
      Skill Name                         | Current Current
                                         |   Bonus   Ranks
      Armor Use..........................|      93      21
      Combat Maneuvers...................|      82      18
      Ranged Weapons.....................|     142      42
      Ambush.............................|      90      20
      Physical Fitness...................|      93      21
      Dodging............................|      90      20
      Harness Power......................|      82      18
      Survival...........................|      90      20
      Stalking and Hiding................|     122      31
      Perception.........................|     140      40
      Climbing...........................|      50      10
      Swimming...........................|      25       5
      First Aid..........................|      90      20
    
    Spell Lists
      Ranger.............................|              19
    Training Points: 7 Phy 0 Mnt (92 Phy converted to Mnt)
    Any glaring problems? I need to start sprinkling in MIU and AS at some point. 2X Ambush? Not sure how I would pull that off, unless I give up CM for now as a Sniper, but half the time I end up open firing anyway, so I should give up S&H? What fun is that? Choices, choices.

    Need to start thinking about finalizing stats, too. Right now they are -

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                   Normal (Bonus)  ...  Enhanced (Bonus)
        Strength (STR):    91 (20)    ...   91 (20)
    Constitution (CON):    71 (5)     ...   71 (5)
       Dexterity (DEX):    84 (27)    ...   84 (27)
         Agility (AGI):    81 (20)    ...   81 (20)
      Discipline (DIS):    75 (2)     ...   75 (2)
            Aura (AUR):    74 (22)    ...   74 (22)
           Logic (LOG):    64 (7)     ...   64 (7)
       Intuition (INT):    69 (14)    ...   69 (14)
          Wisdom (WIS):    86 (23)    ...   86 (23)
       Influence (INF):    29 (-15)   ...   29 (-15)
    Mana:  64   Silver: 0
    ..from a start of
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      Strength (STR): 85
    Constitution (CON): 65
       Dexterity (DEX): 75
         Agility (AGI): 75
      Discipline (DIS): 70
            Aura (AUR): 70
           Logic (LOG): 60
       Intuition (INT): 60
          Wisdom (WIS): 80
       Influence (INF): 20

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