Q. You said that he told you of the meeting with the FBI in Rome in mid or late September, that he "gave them a full briefing"?
A. A debrief I think is what he probably said, they had debriefed him. I don't remember him articulating the specifics of that. You know, my understanding was that they would have gotten into who his sources were, how he knew certain things, and, you know, other details based on their own intelligence. Essentially what he told me was they had other intelligence about this matter from an internal Trump campaign source and that -- that they -- my understanding was that they believed Chris at this point -- that
they believed Chris's information might be credible because they had other intelligence that indicated the same thing and one of those pieces of intelligence was a human source from inside the Trump organization.
Q. And did you have any understanding then or now as to who that human intelligence source from inside the Trump campaign might have been?
MR. LEVY: He's going to decline to answer that question.
MS. SAWYER: On what basis?
MR. SIMPSON: Security.
MR. LEVY: Security.
BY THE WITNESS:
A. We had been really careful -- I was really careful throughout this process to not ask a lot of specific sourcing questions. There are some things I know that I just don't feel comfortable sharing because obviously it's been in the news a lot lately that people who get in the way of the Russians tend to get hurt.
MR. LEVY: And I would just add that there are privileges and obligations that might be implicated in the disclosure of any source related to this matter.
BY MS. SAWYER:
Q. Was this individual also a person who had been a source for Mr. Steele, without identifying who that was?
A. No.
Q. So this was someone independent of Mr. Steele's sources who potentially had information also on the same topics?
A. Yes. I mean, I don't think this implicates any of the issues to say
I think it was a voluntary source, someone who was concerned about the same concerns we had.