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    Cwolff and T4F they will keep bringing up Clinton because, for the most part they imagine themselves good people, who act responsibly.

    Clinton was the reason for Trump, therefor all negatives Trump as wrought are fruit of the poison tree that was Hillary Clinton.

    They remain good people, and their minds require that justification.

    It's not even wrong to think that, it's how most people are wired. You cannot change the foundation of a belief without tearing down the house, and I don't think PK or our more conservative friends are there yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savageheart View Post
    Cwolff and T4F they will keep bringing up Clinton because, for the most part they imagine themselves good people, who act responsibly.

    Clinton was the reason for Trump, therefor all negatives Trump as wrought are fruit of the poison tree that was Hillary Clinton.

    They remain good people, and their minds require that justification.

    It's not even wrong to think that, it's how most people are wired. You cannot change the foundation of a belief without tearing down the house, and I don't think PK or our more conservative friends are there yet.
    Ya you're right of course. As long as they can point the finger somewhere else they can breathe easy that they don't have to do any real thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    Ya you're right of course. As long as they can point the finger somewhere else they can breathe easy that they don't have to do any real thinking.

    There aren't enough face palm memes to cover this idiocy.

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    The "follow the money" angle

    Seva Gunitsky
    We don't know that Trump was involved in any way with that. Obviously, it's kind of his wheelhouse, New York City real estate, so I am sure he at least heard about it. But we don't know if he has any direct connections.
    But it's not even necessary for him to have any direct connections here. They're only asking for some relief in this case, in return for certain compromising documents. So the interesting thing for me is, was there pressure placed on the U.S. Attorney's Office by the administration, by the Department of Justice? What we know is that Preet Bharara, the attorney in charge of the case, was fired in early March, and shortly thereafter the Prevezon case was dropped.
    Sean Illing
    And we still have no explanation about this?
    Seva Gunitsky
    Not as a far as I know. They had been ready to prosecute, witnesses were flown in, it was all set to go, and it was settled rather unexpectedly. So I think this is a case that hasn't really entered the public consciousness yet. But I'm sure that [special counsel Robert] Mueller's team is looking at it.

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    Here's the thing PK you're line of reasoning does not dismiss malfeasance on Trump & Co - It embraces it, after a fashion, but it puts the blame for it not on them but on the conduct of previous administration, and the flawed & failed candidacy of Hillary Clinton.

    At a minimum we have a thing called 'the rule of law' which until recent years always held up. The above statement does not mesh with the rule of law, it does not mesh with general or specific ethics at all.

    I'm not going into whether or what Trump is guilty of as I await the findings of Mueller most of which is fairly leak free until Trump himself mentions it in an interview.

    It doesn't even feel like you're defending Trump so much as further condemning Clinton. I'm ok with that I guess, I'm not a fan; but it does not absolve the current administration/congress of their current activities

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savageheart View Post
    Here's the thing PK you're line of reasoning does not dismiss malfeasance on Trump & Co - It embraces it, after a fashion, but it puts the blame for it not on them but on the conduct of previous administration, and the flawed & failed candidacy of Hillary Clinton.

    At a minimum we have a thing called 'the rule of law' which until recent years always held up. The above statement does not mesh with the rule of law, it does not mesh with general or specific ethics at all.

    I'm not going into whether or what Trump is guilty of as I await the findings of Mueller most of which is fairly leak free until Trump himself mentions it in an interview.

    It doesn't even feel like you're defending Trump so much as further condemning Clinton. I'm ok with that I guess, I'm not a fan; but it does not absolve the current administration/congress of their current activities
    Trump won, get over it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savageheart View Post
    Here's the thing PK you're line of reasoning does not dismiss malfeasance on Trump & Co - It embraces it

    Let me stop you right there with a giant go fuck yourself. I've stated from the very beginning that I'm against Trump and everything he stands for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    Let me stop you right there with a giant go fuck yourself. I've stated from the very beginning that I'm against Trump and everything he stands for.
    So I can go fuck myself with your agreement. Thanks!

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    It's funny watching the board Democrats attack pk and label him a conservative. The man who backed BERNIE SANDERS of all people during the election.

    Let me go laugh for a few minutes before I get some yummy McDonald's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    It's funny watching the board Democrats attack pk and label him a conservative. The man who backed BERNIE SANDERS of all people during the election.

    Let me go laugh for a few minutes before I get some yummy McDonald's.
    Wow, the crook backs another crook! It was love at first sight for PK.

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