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    Correct link on the Fox News Sunday transcript.. http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/20...shut-down.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    Totally no collusion, that's why there are multiple guilty pleas, indictments, and obstruction of justice left and right. They pathetic cries and tears of the trolls are meaningless at this point.
    Can you link the guilty pleas, indictments and obstruction of justice that are actually related to the collusion of the Trump Administration and the Russian government?

    Not lying to Congress.

    Not tax evasion.

    Not fraud.

    Specifically the charges that prove there is collusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    Can you link the guilty pleas, indictments and obstruction of justice that are actually related to the collusion of the Trump Administration and the Russian government?


    One of President Trump's top lawyers told The New Yorker that it doesn't matter if members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia as long as no crimes were committed.


    “For something to be a crime, there has to be a statute that you claim is being violated,” Jay Sekulow said in an article published in the December issue of the magazine. “There is not a statute that refers to criminal collusion. There is no crime of collusion.”

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    Nobody will be charged with collusion because collusion is not a crime. That's not just an argument that Trump's lawyers are making. Everybody acknowledges that collusion is not illegal. If Trump cooperated with Russians to steal Clinton's emails or if he took or paid bribes relating to stolen information, then that would be a crime. If he lies under oath about colluding with the Russians, that would be a crime. Or if the expanding investigation uncovers prior financial crimes, then that would, by definition, be a crime.

    Mueller's mandate, which you can read for yourself if you don't believe me, was to investigate matters about which Comey testified before Congress after he was fired. If Comey had not been fired, there would have been no special counsel. That's why Steve Bannon called Comey's firing the biggest political mistake in modern political history. Nobody with any knowledge and understanding of the history of D.C. scandals would have even considered firing Comey in this situation.

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    And they call you a troll. That's about as good an explanation for the trump supporters to understand as any I've read

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    So.. this was never, ever about the fabricated story about the Trump Administration colluding with the Russians?

    Shocker.

    Really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    So.. this was never, ever about the fabricated story about the Trump Administration colluding with the Russians?


    What does your common sense tell you?

    Picture it. In the midst of a heated and nasty campaign, Trump Jr. received an email on June 3, 2016, stating, in part, "The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump..." Trump Jr. responded the same day, "Love it." Then Trump Jr., Kushner and Manafort -- Trump's son, son-in-law and campaign manager, a group that would not be assembled for something viewed as unimportant -- met with the Russians on June 9, 2016. When asked in July of 2016 about rumors that Russia was trying to help the Trump campaign, Trump Jr. said it was a disgusting lie being spread by the Clinton campaign.

    Do you think this is the sort of thing Trump Sr. would ignore? Is he the kind of person who wants to win at all costs, or does he have a code of honor that would prohibit accepting help from a foreign government?

    If you do a search for timelines relating to the Russia investigation, you will find a variety of sites with long lists of other contacts, both before and after the Trump Jr meeting, between the Trump campaign and the Russians, all circumstantial evidence of collusion. The only direct evidence of collusion is the Trump Jr. meeting, which, of course, was not illegal if it happened as reported by Trump Jr. Lying about it under oath would be illegal, but lying about it to the public, as he did in July of 2016, was not illegal.

    I believe the perceived need for an investigation is being driven by circumstantial evidence, reinforced by the attempt to cover up the meeting between Trump Jr. and the Russians, and given credibility by Trump's personal moral character.

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    just stfu, clyde. You butthurt bastard you.

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    Did he just break character?
    You had better pay your guild dues before you forget. You are 113 months behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeR View Post
    What does your common sense tell you?
    It's a vast left wing conspiracy theory!

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    Attorney Theodore Olson will not join President Trump’s legal team, one of his legal partners said Tuesday afternoon.

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    Did Trump ask him? Olson has been in all the big scandals in recent years.

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