A Thread for Trump's Self-Inflicted Wound of the Day

[time4fun]

She is talking about impeachment which isn't a criminal offense in the normal sense.

It'll never happen with the current information.

Sort of.

A crime is a crime is a crime. It's illegal to use your Constitutionally-provided authority with "corrupt purpose". Firing a staffer isn't illegal. Firing a staffer in an attempt to stop an active investigation into a member of your campaign IS illegal.

It's just that if you're a sitting President, the remedy for that illegal activity is impeachment. (Also the way Impeachment of structured, you don't have to have met the strict legal definition of a crime. It's for "high crimes and misdemeanors", but Congress decides what was a crime, not the Judiciary)

Having said that, once a President is removed from office- they can face criminal charges. Remember, Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon immediately upon becoming President (that's why his approval ratings were so historically low) because he knew Nixon would face criminal charges for his conduct afterwards.

[Tgo01]

The moment Time4makebelieve realizes that the EU does not want these sanctions.



http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/europe...ons/index.html

The EU is obviously taking Russian bribes.

I tried to tell her a few days ago that the rest of the world isn't on board with this Russian hate bullshit, but she just didn't wanna listen! She really does seem to think the world has come down with red fever, when in reality it's just the left in the US.

[Tgo01]

Firing a staffer isn't illegal. Firing a staffer in an attempt to stop an active investigation into a member of your campaign IS illegal.

No it isn't.

[time4fun]

I tried to tell her a few days ago that the rest of the world isn't on board with this Russian hate bullshit, but she just didn't wanna listen! She really does seem to think the world has come down with red fever, when in reality it's just the left in the US.

Do you understand why the EU doesn't want the US running forward with the sanctions?

They're afraid it'll affect THEIR business deals.

Do you know why I don't care? Because Russia is actively trying to destabilize our government (and that of half of the EU countries), and because Congress is the only entity that can stop Trump from removing Russian sanctions.

[Neveragain]

I tried to tell her a few days ago that the rest of the world isn't on board with this Russian hate bullshit, but she just didn't wanna listen! She really does seem to think the world has come down with red fever, when in reality it's just the left in the US.

That's because everyone but the alt-left isn't insane enough to risk global thermal nuclear war because Hillary Clinton lost an election.

[Tgo01]

Do you understand why the EU doesn't want the US running forward with the sanctions?

They're afraid it'll affect THEIR business deals.

...so...?

Do you know why I don't care? Because Russia is actively trying to destabilize our government, and because Congress is the only entity that can stop Trump from removing Russian sanctions.

Russia supposedly "meddled" in French and German elections and they aren't losing their shit over it. Why? Because they realize this happens all the damn time all over the world even between countries that are allies. Democrats just couldn't stand the thought that their precious Hillary lost so they are drumming up this whole Russian collusion nonsense because they are holding out hope that they can still put Hillary in the White House.

[time4fun]

No it isn't.

You're right, obstruction of justice isn't illegal at all.

And the DoJ isn't currently investigating Trump for doing exactly what you just said wasn't illegal.

And the DoJ spends a lot of time investigating things they know aren't actually illegal.

[Tgo01]

You're right, obstruction of justice isn't illegal at all.

It's not obstruction of justice. The president can fire whoever the hell he wants. You know what I mean, don't go for the easy semantic win.

And the DoJ isn't currently investigating Trump for doing exactly what you just said wasn't illegal.

Source? No, really, I want a source that the DoJ is considering charging Trump for firing Comey.

[Ashliana]

...so...?



Russia supposedly "meddled" in French and German elections and they aren't losing their shit over it. Why? Because they realize this happens all the damn time all over the world even between countries that are allies. Democrats just couldn't stand the thought that their precious Hillary lost so they are drumming up this whole Russian collusion nonsense because they are holding out hope that they can still put Hillary in the White House.

There's a difference between "meddling" and one of those sides actively colluding with a hostile foreign power, which is what we now have evidence of the Trump campaign doing.

Democrats didn't make up anything: the "meddling" is a fact. Trump's Director of National Intelligence has stated it unequivocally. CIA director Pompeo has stated it unequivocally.

What you don't want to believe -- out of petty, tribalist expedience -- reflects only on you.

[Tgo01]

There's a difference between "meddling" and one of those sides actively colluding with a hostile foreign power, which is what we now have evidence of the Trump campaign doing.

lol

Democrats didn't make up anything: the "meddling" is a fact. Trump's Director of National Intelligence has stated it unequivocally. CIA director Pompeo has stated it unequivocally.

Wait, you just used "meddling" in quotes in both sentences. Are you suggesting Trump's director of National Intelligence has stated there was active collusion going on between Russia and the Trump campaign?

If so, source?