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    Default Report: Ukraine officials designated millions for Trump Campaign Chair Paul Manafort

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    Hillary Clinton's campaign slammed Donald Trump for "troubling connections" to Russia after The New York Times published a report late Sunday alleging that millions in cash payments were designated for Paul Manafort by Ukrainian leaders during his time as a political consultant there.

    In a statement released Sunday evening, Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook said, "On the eve of what the Trump campaign has billed as a major foreign policy speech, we have learned of more troubling connections between Donald Trump's team and pro-Kremlin elements in Ukraine."


    He continued, "Given the pro-Putin policy stances adopted by Donald Trump and the recent Russian government hacking and disclosure of Democratic Party records, Donald Trump has a responsibility to disclose campaign chair Paul Manafort's and all other campaign employees' and advisers' ties to Russian or pro-Kremlin entities, including whether any of Trump's employees or advisers are currently representing and or being paid by them."


    Mook's response came in after the Times report about the discovery by anti-corruption investigators of "$12.7 million in undisclosed cash payments designated for Mr. Manafort from [then-President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovich's] pro-Russian political party from 2007 to 2012, according to Ukraine's newly formed National Anti-Corruption Bureau."

    According to the report, anti-corruption officials and investigators in Ukraine argue that the payments they discovered are part of a large, secret network of corruption operated by the government under Yanukovich, for whom Manafort worked as a consultant at the time.


    The report also noted that those officials have not yet determined if Manafort received the payments found in the handwritten ledgers. Manafort's lawyer, Richard Hibey, denied to the Times that his client received "any such cash payments" described in the report.


    Manafort called the report "unfounded, silly, and nonsensical."


    "Once again The New York Times has chosen to purposefully ignore facts and professional journalism to fit their political agenda, choosing to attack my character and reputation rather than present an honest report," he said in a statement.


    "The simplest answer is the truth: I am a campaign professional. It is well known that I do work in the United States and have done work on overseas campaigns as well. I have never received a single "off-the-books cash payment" as falsely "reported" by The New York Times, nor have I ever done work for the governments of Ukraine or Russia. Further, all of the political payments directed to me were for my entire political team: campaign staff (local and international), polling and research, election integrity and television advertising. The suggestion that I accepted cash payments is unfounded, silly, and nonsensical.


    "My work in Ukraine ceased following the country's parliamentary elections in October 2014. In addition, as the article points out hesitantly, every government official interviewed states I have done nothing wrong, and there is no evidence of 'cash payments' made to me by any official in Ukraine. However, the Times does fail to disclose the fact that the Clinton Foundation has taken (and may still take) payments in exchange for favors from Hillary Clinton while serving as the Secretary of State. This is not discussed despite the overwhelming evidence in emails that Hillary Clinton attempted to cover up," the statement continued.


    Prior to serving as chairman of the Trump campaign, Manafort previously worked on and off as a political consultant for Yanukovich, before Yanukovich's violent ouster in 2014.

    Corey Lewandowski, who served as Trump's campaign manager before Manafort took over as chairman in a reportedly contentious transfer of power, tweeted out a link to the Times report late Sunday, and addressed the controversial story on "New Day" on CNN Monday.


    Asked why he shared the story, and if it was an attempt to criticize Manafort, Lewandowski answered instead that the report was an example of anti-Trump bias in the media.

    "The media is now focusing on a private person who had a private business model, which no one says there's anything illegal about what he did," he said on CNN.

    "Number one, Paul says there was no money received. Number two, there's no proof of any money received. Number three, Cheryl Mills was a government employee at the time," Lewandowski added, comparing the scrutiny of Manafort to criticism of Clinton aide Cheryl Mills and the overlap between her duties as a State Dept. official under Clinton and her work with the Clinton Foundation.



    Manafort's work there has come under scrutiny and drawn flak for the Trump campaign, particularly as the standoff between Ukraine and Russia devolved into violence following Yanukovich's flight to Russia, and as the Yanukovich government's pro-Russian ties and corruption have been made public in reports such as that in the Times. That scrutiny has increased in response to the suspicion surrounding Russia's role in the hack of the Democratic National Committee and the Trump campaign's rhetoric about withdrawing support for Eastern European NATO allies in the face of Russian aggression.


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    So does this mean Hillary's campaign manager John Podesta is going to explain the $35 million he received from the pro-Putin Russian government fund? Or are Russian connections only of importance when someone other than team Hillary is involved?

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    I think this entire election is actually a comedy show for an advanced alien race. The question is, what is the show called?

    Those stupid humans
    Trump's family
    All in the election

    Hopefully they don't know a few of us have figured this out, or something could hap
    Last edited by Candor; 08-15-2016 at 05:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    So does this mean Hillary's campaign manager John Podesta is going to explain the $35 million he received from the pro-Putin Russian government fund? Or are Russian connections only of importance when someone other than team Hillary is involved?
    So let's see...

    Manafort- who worked for the Ukraine President installed by Putin- shows up to the Trump campaign out of the blue and offers his services as a consultant for free.

    Later, Trump hires Manafort to handle some of the operations of the campaign. Increasingly, Manafort takes over the campaign manager's duties.

    Later, reports indicate that Manafort and his allies help convinces Trump to ditch his then-campaign manager and to hire Manafort instead.

    Magically, after Manafort is hired, Trump's stances on Russia and the Ukraine begin changing dramatically. This includes suddenly hinting that he might work to lift sanctions against Russia and to formally recognize the annexed Crimea as a part of Russia.

    During the platform discussions, Trump's campaign staff very randomly and unexpectedly pipe up and replace some strong verbiage that comes out against Russia for its annexation of Crimea. This is after the Trump campaign demonstrates little to no interest in any other part of the platform.

    While doing opposition research on Manafort, a DNC staffer magically reports getting repeated warnings from Yahoo that her account had been compromised by a foreign government

    Russia hacks the DNC and grabs chats, emails, and- very specifically- their trove of opposition research on Trump.

    Later, Wikileaks dumps a whole host of DNC emails clearly intended to make Clinton and the Dems look bad, and it's determined that it was the result of Russian hacking. In response, Trump point blank tells Russia to interfere with a US Presidential election with further hacking and leaking.

    And now, it turns out that Manafort was on the secret, illegal payroll of the pro-Putin party (to a tune of almost $13 million). And, even more concerning, Manafort kept his office in the Ukraine until about May- suggesting that he may have continued to have business dealings at least until then.

    Meanwhile, Trump has begun receiving intelligence briefings- which Manafort likely has some access to.

    You are so busy looking for nonexistent Clinton Foundation scandals that you are ignoring a serious international scandal going on right in front of your face. At some point in time, you need to remove your partisan blinders and start worrying about the fact that Russia is clearly trying to sway the outcome of this election, and that someone with very strong ties to him is currently managing the GOP Presidential campaign. Do you realize what this could do to our country? Do you realize what it could do to the GOP?

    I may not be a fan of the GOP, but this country works best when it has two functional political parties. This is dangerous territory we're in for a whole host of reasons.
    Last edited by time4fun; 08-16-2016 at 10:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candor View Post
    I think this entire election is actually a comedy show for an advanced alien race. The question is, what is the show called?

    Those stupid humans
    Trump's family
    All in the election

    Hopefully they don't know a few of us have figured this out, or something could hap
    Just...stop posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    So let's see...

    Manafort- who worked for the Ukraine President installed by Putin- shows up to the Trump campaign out of the blue and offers his services as a consultant for free.

    Later, Trump hires Manafort to handle some of the operations of the campaign. Increasingly, Manafort takes over the campaign manager's duties.

    Later, reports indicate that Manafort and his allies help convinces Trump to ditch his then-campaign manager and to hire Manafort instead.

    Magically, after Manafort is hired, Trump's stances on Russia and the Ukraine begin changing dramatically. This includes suddenly hinting that he might work to lift sanctions against Russia and to formally recognize the annexed Crimea as a part of Russia.

    During the platform discussions, Trump's campaign staff very randomly and unexpectedly pipe up and replace some strong verbiage that comes out against Russia for its annexation of Crimea. This is after the Trump campaign demonstrates little to no interest in any other part of the platform.

    While doing opposition research on Manafort, a DNC staffer magically reports getting repeated warnings from Yahoo that her account had been compromised by a foreign government

    Russia hacks the DNC and grabs chats, emails, and- very specifically- their trove of opposition research on Trump.

    Later, Wikileaks dumps a whole host of DNC emails clearly intended to make Clinton and the Dems look bad, and it's determined that it was the result of Russian hacking. In response, Trump point blank tells Russia to interfere with a US Presidential election with further hacking and leaking.

    And now, it turns out that Manafort was on the secret, illegal payroll of the pro-Putin party (to a tune of almost $13 million). And, even more concerning, Manafort kept his office in the Ukraine until about May- suggesting that he may have continued to have business dealings at least until then.

    Meanwhile, Trump has begun receiving intelligence briefings- which Manafort likely has some access to.

    You are so busy looking for nonexistent Clinton Foundation scandals that you are ignoring a serious international scandal going on right in front of your face. At some point in time, you need to remove your partisan blinders and start worrying about the fact that Russia is clearly trying to sway the outcome of this election, and that someone with very strong ties to him is currently managing the GOP Presidential campaign. Do you realize what this could do to our country? Do you realize what it could do to the GOP?

    I may not be a fan of the GOP, but this country works best when it has two functional political parties. This is dangerous territory we're in for a whole host of reasons.

    Didn't your BF tell you to stop trolling the politics threads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    Didn't your BF tell you to stop trolling the politics threads?
    I'm sorry- did my facts scare you?

    Because they should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    I'm sorry- did my facts scare you?

    Because they should.
    I didn't see any facts, just some links to poorly-written Politico garbage and a bunch of fear-mongering.

    I'm not a Trump supporter, I won't be voting for Trump in November, but I find The Clinton Foundation's long history of actual corruption at the highest levels of our current active government far more dangerous than Trump's campaign's suspected corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thondalar View Post
    I didn't see any facts, just some links to poorly-written Politico garbage and a bunch of fear-mongering.

    I'm not a Trump supporter, I won't be voting for Trump in November, but I find The Clinton Foundation's long history of actual corruption at the highest levels of our current active government far more dangerous than Trump's campaign's suspected corruption.
    You know, if you read the pretty articles- there are facts inside of them.

    And no, there's no history of any actual corruption in the Clinton Foundation. Peter Schweizer wrote a stupid, heavily discredited book, and the House GOP decided to jump on it. It takes a special person to see a family with a history of major charity work and to turn it into a negative.

    More to the point here- the Russian hacking into the DNC, and the subsequent, targeted attacks on the Democrats are real. They aren't fantasy. Trump's very recent pro-Russian positions are real, not fantasy. Manafort's VERY recent history supporting a Putin-installed President in Ukraine is a fact, not fantasy. And Manafort's name appearing 22 times on an illegal ledger that was full of illegal money transfers from that President's party is real. As is the work he did with a Russian Oligarch to sell off a Ukrainian television network to what appears to be Russian entities masked in holding companies.

    Russia is tampering with our elections right now- it's a fact. And Manafort- who sought out the Trump campaign and ended up taking over it- was a part of a previous (failed) Putin plan to take over another country via their election process. To dismiss the coincidence here is dangerous.

    There's more than enough evidence to take this seriously. It shouldn't be less upsetting to you than a foundation which spends billions of dollars on health, education, and environment services around the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    You know, if you read the pretty articles- there are facts inside of them.

    And no, there's no history of any actual corruption in the Clinton Foundation. Peter Schweizer wrote a stupid, heavily discredited book, and the House GOP decided to jump on it. It takes a special person to see a family with a history of major charity work and to turn it into a negative.

    More to the point here- the Russian hacking into the DNC, and the subsequent, targeted attacks on the Democrats are real. They aren't fantasy. Trump's very recent pro-Russian positions are real, not fantasy. Manafort's VERY recent history supporting a Putin-installed President in Ukraine is a fact, not fantasy. And Manafort's name appearing 22 times on an illegal ledger that was full of illegal money transfers from that President's party is real. As is the work he did with a Russian Oligarch to sell off a Ukrainian television network to what appears to be Russian entities masked in holding companies.

    Russia is tampering with our elections right now- it's a fact. And Manafort- who sought out the Trump campaign and ended up taking over it- was a part of a previous (failed) Putin plan to take over another country via their election process. To dismiss the coincidence here is dangerous.

    There's more than enough evidence to take this seriously. It shouldn't be less upsetting to you than a foundation which spends billions of dollars on health, education, and environment services around the world.
    Lol'd.

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