Scam Alert - SashaFierce / Alastir

[SonoftheNorth]

WTB: a country. Paying some dumb ass indians iron kettles, beads and cloth.

[Kharhazz]

I was the first one to find a pendant, I said I was looking for a segment on merchant, someone sent me a PM saying they had one, I asked how much they'd like for it, they said make an offer, I made an offer, they accepted.

If you want to call that scamming someone, have at it crackhead bob.


You're trying to tell everyone that there's going to be so many pendants that they'll be worthless, and since you have the only segment, they better sell you a pendant for 10m now. Don't get mad because a ton of people are calling you on your shit.

Wow, way to admit you'll rip someone off if you have the chance.

[Kithus]

You can't blame someone for making an offer that was accepted. It's not like he held a gun to anyone's head. People in Plat were giving segments and pendants to each other to help people finish. Maybe the person that sold him the segment was more interested in seeing one completed than making a ton of silver.

[Viekn]

I was the first one to find a pendant, I said I was looking for a segment on merchant, someone sent me a PM saying they had one, I asked how much they'd like for it, they said make an offer, I made an offer, they accepted.

Haldrik, that's not scamming someone, that's just being a merchant. Does it suck for that person that sold it? Of course. Upon hearing the person was willing to sell it for a mil, should Alastir have said "oh, that's actually way too low, let me give you 75 mil instread"? Of course not, that's idiotic and not the way any free market economy works. If the person had asked Alastir what the going rate was, and he lied, that would be a different story. And if someone is unaware of value, they can certainly post here or ask on lnet to get a general sense, neither of which the seller did and both of which a good merchant typically would.

[Haldrik]

I was the first one to find a pendant, I said I was looking for a segment on merchant, someone sent me a PM saying they had one, I asked how much they'd like for it, they said make an offer, I made an offer, they accepted.

If you want to call that scamming someone, have at it crackhead bob.


You're trying to tell everyone that there's going to be so many pendants that they'll be worthless, and since you have the only segment, they better sell you a pendant for 10m now. Don't get mad because a ton of people are calling you on your shit.

Your alt was doing the talking. And he was saying "Help me complete my pendant!!!". I've never ever heard your alt talk before that day. It was clearly designed to catch someone offguard and unaware. And it worked. Nicely done. You knew the rarity off the segments because you knew the platinum instance rarity numbers. You knew a segment had sold for 50m already. You knew pendants were going for 25m and segments were far rarer. You used trickery and deceit.

You knew everything, and yet you scammed some guy anyways.

Scam:
a dishonest scheme; a fraud

[SashaFierce]

Wow, way to admit you'll rip someone off if you have the chance.

Right, it's ripping someone off when you pay a person what they ask for something.

Your alt was doing the talking. And he was saying "Help me complete my pendant!!!". I've never ever heard your alt talk before that day. It was clearly designed to catch someone offguard and unaware. And it worked. Nicely done. You knew the rarity off the segments because you knew the platinum instance rarity numbers. You knew a segment had sold for 50m already. You knew pendants were going for 25m and segments were far rarer. You used trickery and deceit.

You knew everything, and yet you scammed some guy anyways.

Scam:
a dishonest scheme; a fraud

This was way before the price ballooned on segments, in case you missed it, I was the first person to find and complete a pendant. Values hadn't been established at that point.

[Gelston]

There was no fraud or scam here. Sucks the person didn't research the item they were trying to sell, but it is what it is.

Should SashaFierce maybe have been a little nicer and offered more? Sure, but that isn't his/her job. A price was offered, it was accepted. Worry about your own business.

[SonoftheNorth]

Haldrik, that's not scamming someone, that's just being a merchant. Does it suck for that person that sold it? Of course. Upon hearing the person was willing to sell it for a mil, should Alastir have said "oh, that's actually way too low, let me give you 75 mil instread"? Of course not, that's idiotic and not the way any free market economy works. If the person had asked Alastir what the going rate was, and he lied, that would be a different story. And if someone is unaware of value, they can certainly post here or ask on lnet to get a general sense, neither of which the seller did and both of which a good merchant typically would.

It isn't even the fact he bought the segment for 1m that I care about. I don't even have a dog in this fight. But hes giving Kalros shit for offering to buy a pendant for 10m and calling him a cheap bastard when he bought his segment for 1m off someone who didn't know what they found when what he did is even more morally corrupt.

[Haldrik]

Right, it's ripping someone off when you pay a person what they ask for something.

This was way before the price ballooned on segments, in case you missed it, I was the first person to find and complete a pendant. Values hadn't been established at that point.

This is why I've always disliked you. You absolutely reek of desperation. The fraud triangle nails down your personality quite well!

The fraud triangle is a model for explaining the factors that cause someone to commit occupational fraud. It consists of three components which, together, lead to fraudulent behavior:

1. Perceived unshareable financial need
2. Perceived opportunity
3. Rationalization

[Gelston]

It isn't even the fact he bought the segment for 1m that I care about. I don't even have a dog in this fight. But hes giving Kalros shit for offering to buy a pendant for 10m and calling him a cheap bastard when he bought his segment for 1m off someone who didn't know what they found when what he did is even more morally corrupt.

If they're bragging about it after the fact, that is kinda fucked up. Still, the only person that should be posting a thread like this is the seller, and even then it is only the seller's own fault. Not some random butthurt whiner.