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    Updated to add in a Fash'lo'nae's Forbidden Book

    Updated to add in a Fash'lo'nae's Forbidden Book
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    Bumping this up now that the auction is over.

    Bumping this up now that the auction is over.
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    I know you know that I don't use bigshot. And I...

    I know you know that I don't use bigshot. And I know you know that I'm heavily involved with the Icemule storylines. Is there a particular reason you don't like people holding nuanced views over...
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    Pot meet kettle. :kiss:

    Pot meet kettle. :kiss:
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    Absolutely! So much bruhaha over the flag when...

    Absolutely! So much bruhaha over the flag when we've got the potential for a fun new CvE interaction. There are so many neat ways for Staff to take this; I hope it doesn't wind up being another derpy...
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    Doesn't stop silver theft; doesn't help when...

    Doesn't stop silver theft; doesn't help when you're dead. I get that this good enough for some folks, but I'm aligned with staff's decision to just flag it all up. Your mileage may vary!
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    I just want to have a good time with friends,...

    I just want to have a good time with friends, man. I don't want to be bothered by assholes. I can squelch dumbass speech and actions; I can't squelch dumbass pickpockets taking my items, regardless...
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    GemStone IV has been designed to promote...

    GemStone IV has been designed to promote competition as player vs. creature, or player vs. puzzle, and not generally player vs. player.

    See: https://gswiki.play.net/Policy
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    I've listened to everything that's been said by...

    I've listened to everything that's been said by the opponents of the flag. I just don't find the argument compelling. Also, tell me how to avoid being robbed when dead please.
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    I park my dudes in a sanct whenever I'm resting...

    I park my dudes in a sanct whenever I'm resting to avoid this shit. I'd love to not have to do that, along with not having to manage closing my containers and running to the goddamn bank.

    You...
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    It was a generic "asshole," Midgar. But, yes, I...

    It was a generic "asshole," Midgar. But, yes, I think you're an asshole if you find it fun to dip into the pockets of another paying customer.
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    To be clear, this is also what I want. I fucking...

    To be clear, this is also what I want. I fucking hate CvC in Gemstone and want to nope out of every bit of it.
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    Honestly, part of my desire to see this is...

    Honestly, part of my desire to see this is because I am "lazy" due to not having a ton of time to spend in-game. I don't want to have to be fucking worried about closing my goddamn containers because...
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    And staff has said that their goal is to move...

    And staff has said that their goal is to move this system to be focused on CvE. So, from that perspective, it is a bit of a QoL improvement. And the point of the pickpocketing system will no longer...
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    Dude, I'm trying to discuss this feature...

    Dude, I'm trying to discuss this feature on-the-level. For the time being, assume I'm being genuine.
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    But if OBVIOUSHIDING can be used to in-character...

    But if OBVIOUSHIDING can be used to in-character inform others that "I'm hiding" even though they didn't search them out, why cannot this flag inform others that "my containers are closed" even if...
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    I appreciate good snark as much as the next...

    I appreciate good snark as much as the next person, but let me use a more meaningful example...

    Herbs can be stolen. Herbs are crucial to avoiding catastrophic scenarios when I do solo OSA. If...
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    Except this is incorrect in two notable ways: ...

    Except this is incorrect in two notable ways:

    1) The RECOVER system doesn't ignore items that are of low silver value. If a doomstone curse causes me to drop an herb, that shows up in RECOVER.
    ...
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    But, Midgar, you have to acknowledge that staff...

    But, Midgar, you have to acknowledge that staff is – and has been – embracing a no-item-loss philosophy for some time now. The game you think you're playing is not the game everyone else is. And I...
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    But, again, how does your roleplay get impacted...

    But, again, how does your roleplay get impacted when – in character – you can interpret the game response as "oh, this mark has nothing for me to steal?"

    From my perspective, what's actually being...
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    Can you elaborate on this please? Why is stealing...

    Can you elaborate on this please? Why is stealing different?

    I ask because my immediate response, in the context of OBVIOUSHIDING, is: "There is ALWAYS at least some minimal threat of another...
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    Ha! Mea Culpa. To be fair, I meant this...

    Ha! Mea Culpa. To be fair, I meant this tongue-in-cheek (as could be easily deciphered from the context around the single message you quoted) – but I will cop to having written these words. To be...
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    How is this any different than your IC...

    How is this any different than your IC explanation for OBVIOUSHIDING. You said that you roleplay this as taking obvious steps to ensure others know you are there when engaging in CvE combat. Great!...
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    I must admit that I am confused how you, in...

    I must admit that I am confused how you, in character, can determine that someone is immune to your theft instead of just following the behavior patterns that I keep being told protect against...
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    That's a lot of words that don't answer my very...

    That's a lot of words that don't answer my very simple question. I ask again:

    IN CHARACTER, what is the functional difference between robbing someone who has the flag enabled and robbing someone...
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