14 Mass Shootings in the USA Over Memorial Day Weekend

Gun safety isn't the issue. And yes, it really is that simple since about 80% or so of all gun crime in the US is gang related. Gangs are centered in the largest cities so targeting them would in fact reduce gun violence a lot. Raising the purchase age is just another infringement on citizens rights that won't do shit for problem just like it has done nothing with drunk driving and so on. The biggest decrease in drunk driving deaths has been due to increased safety features in cars and improved emergency medicine.

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

Don't know the actual numbers, but those 5 cities have been controlled by liberals for decades.. 5 of the most dangerous cities in the US with the most gun violence, despite some of the most strict gun control laws on the books.

Gun control obviously isn't the answer since most of the perps won't follow laws anyway.

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Australia, Japan, Canada, England etc have gun control. They do not have mass shootings.

It’s really quite simple unless you do not want to give up guns or make it harder to acquire a gun.

Anyone who says this shooting epidemic we have in the US can’t be fixed through gun control has an agenda or is an idiot/lazy.

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Originally Posted by SHAFT

Australia, Japan, Canada, England etc have gun control. They do not have mass shootings.

It’s really quite simple unless you do not want to give up guns or make it harder to acquire a gun.

Anyone who says this shooting epidemic we have in the US can’t be fixed through gun control has an agenda or is an idiot/lazy.

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Australia, Japan, Canada, England, etc.. don't have the 2nd Amendment that protects it's citizen's right to bear arms. They also don't have 400 million guns in the hands of civilians either.

Anyone who says this shooting epidemic we have in the US can be fixed through gun control is an idiot.

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Originally Posted by SHAFT

Australia, Japan, Canada, England etc have gun control. They do not have mass shootings.

It’s really quite simple unless you do not want to give up guns or make it harder to acquire a gun.

Anyone who says this shooting epidemic we have in the US can’t be fixed through gun control has an agenda or is an idiot/lazy.

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They do have mass shootings, mass stabbings, mass killings with a truck, poison gas (sarin) attacks, bombs and so on. Keep believing the myth.

If you live in a country with gun control and your crime rate is no better than the rest of the world, then you can shut the fuck up.

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

Australia, Japan, Canada, England, etc.. don't have the 2nd Amendment that protects it's citizen's right to bear arms. They also don't have 400 million guns in the hands of civilians either.

Anyone who says this shooting epidemic we have in the US can be fixed through gun control is an idiot.

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The Uvalde shooter bought his guns that week. The Tulsa shooter bought his gun that same day. How about we start with that? Getting a gun should be harder than buying a house, in terms of the process.

Strong chance that if both of those shooters weren't able to buy their weapons that quickly they don't commit those crimes.

See? Don't be so lazy. Or perhaps you endorse mass murder like most Republicans?

Odd, why not include France, Norway and India. They all have tougher firearms laws and those will prevent mass shootings, its the primary factor involved after all.

Paris attacks of 2015 kills 130

2011 Norway attacks kill 77 at summer camp

Mumbai attack kill 164

What about some of the other big western hemisphere countries like Mexico and Brazil? After all, both countries have strong firearms restrictions. Both are much closer to the USA in terms of size than Canida. Surely they must be bastions of safety.

Murder rate by country in 2018

USA 4.96/100k, Mexico 29.07/100k, Brazil 27.38/100k

Mexican drug war kills 115,000 people 2007-2018

Brazil has the most intentional killings of any country (2018)

Of course, both Mexico and Brazil have social and economic causes driving much of those homicides, just like how US cities have high gang activity and high murder rates.

Let us also not forget that the US has about 3 times the number of car fatalities than it does murders each year. Plenty of those accidents involve multiple people being killed, and they need not be accidents (Mass vehicular homicides in Nice, London, the US). If it is appropriate to remove the rights of innocents to avoid death, shouldn't this be a lower hanging fruit? I mean, sure firearm murders are intentional, but that just means they might seek other methods such as bombs, fires, or vehicles. Every car owner is a potential hazard, even if they don't want to hurt someone. It is obvious, unless you simply don't want to give up your car.

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Originally Posted by SHAFT

Australia, Japan, Canada, England etc have gun control. They do not have mass shootings.

It’s really quite simple unless you do not want to give up guns or make it harder to acquire a gun.

Anyone who says this shooting epidemic we have in the US can’t be fixed through gun control has an agenda or is an idiot/lazy.

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Originally Posted by SHAFT

The Uvalde shooter bought his guns that week. The Tulsa shooter bought his gun that same day. How about we start with that? Getting a gun should be harder than buying a house, in terms of the process.

Strong chance that if both of those shooters weren't able to buy their weapons that quickly they don't commit those crimes.

See? Don't be so lazy. Or perhaps you endorse mass murder like most Republicans?

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Already dropping into the blood libel territory, eh? A sure sign you have strong reasoned arguments.

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Originally Posted by SHAFT

The Uvalde shooter bought his guns that week. The Tulsa shooter bought his gun that same day. How about we start with that? Getting a gun should be harder than buying a house, in terms of the process.

Strong chance that if both of those shooters weren't able to buy their weapons that quickly they don't commit those crimes.

See? Don't be so lazy. Or perhaps you endorse mass murder like most Republicans?

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So basically just keep focusing on one aspect of each shooter until guns are completely illegal huh?

These shootings happened too soon after they bought their guns? Waiting period!

Next shooting was committed by someone aged 24, let's up the age to buy a bun to 36!

Next shooting was committed by someone diagnosed with depression, let's ban people diagnosed with depression from owning a gun!

Next shooting was committed with a handgun, let's ban all handguns!

Next shooting was committed with a rifle, let's ban all rifles!

Why can't weasels like you just be honest and say you want to ban all guns? At least attempt to have an honest discussion.

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Originally Posted by Menos

Already dropping into the blood libel territory, eh? A sure sign you have strong reasoned arguments.

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If you're not willing to change the current system you're endorsing the current system. The current system allows for mass murder by AR15 at a moments notice.

So yeah, if Republicans refuse to pass laws attempting to curb gun deaths, they're endorsing gun deaths.

May be tough to hear but its 100% true.

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Originally Posted by SHAFT

So yeah, if Republicans refuse to pass laws attempting to curb gun deaths, they're endorsing gun deaths.

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Democrats refuse to pass any laws to make schools safer. So what you're saying is Democrats want little kids to continue being murdered in schools so they can pass their gun control legislation.

Ohio just passed a law that allows teachers and other school staff to be armed after they complete a training course. Why are Democrats against this?