Any wizards out there with redux?

Just curious is all.

I've been trotting along my dwarf warmage and playing him more lately. He's level 34 and is maxed out on spell levels that I will be training him in (he's got a fun backstory I created and his training reflects this and his limited spell knowledge).

Here's his current skills:
(at level 34), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 130 35
Shield Use.........................| 130 35
Combat Maneuvers...................| 66 14
Edged Weapons......................| 130 35
Physical Fitness...................| 130 35
Harness Power......................| 130 35
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 117 29
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 141 41
Perception.........................| 74 16
Climbing...........................| 117 29
Swimming...........................| 117 29

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 20

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 13


At 29 EL:A ranks, he gets his swing RT down to 1 second with 506 running and swinging his 6x falchion.
I plan on just focusing EL:E at this point....maybe tossing a few ranks into Air eventually to hit the next bonus point for 911 and another open disk spot.
Only wielding a 4x shield right now - will work on getting one to 7x eventually, then hopefully to T5 for the extra CvA against spells

A few enhancives to help boost his OHE ranks up a bit, plus the use of EVOKE 902 and COL his current AS is 278.
If needed I can utilize the self cast tremors and even call wind - should I want to chance the spell hindrance (at it's max low of 7%).
He's currently wearing some Cuirbouilli Leather equivalent (some 4x, SWCP leather breastplate and some DCP arm greaves).
I had him learn up to 913 for the added benefit of a spell you're hard pressed to find outside of knowing it and 520 so he could get the base use of Mage Armor.

He can easily obtain elementals from others. The only real downside I see with him is as he progresses higher in level that his AS will be behind a bit due to the lack of 425 and his DS/TD will lack some because of not knowing 430. I can offset some of the lack of TD with ensorcell on his armor and shield, so I'm not too worried about that.

With disarm having changed some so you don't outright lose your weapon if you can't steal it back from a creature, I'm not horribly concerned about dumping his CMAN points into disarm. I'll probably focus on Cunning Defense first, then I'll gauge how well my DS is - if rubbing a small statue won't be enough, I may snag up a few ranks of Combat Movement for a few extra points of DS and then work on getting Feint up to rank 3.

;redux
[redux: Level: 34]
[redux: Primary skills: 35]
[redux: Secondary skils: 84]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 35]
[redux: Redux points: 791.0] (this was at 688 last level, though I'm not sure where this number needs to be before you actually hit redux)
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

In the end (capped, if I get him that far) I plan on having him in brig (sure, he'll have 20some% spell hindrance, but he won't be a big caster of any sorts so it shouldn't really matter) or an equivalent of leather breastplate with accessories. The only big difference between leather breastplate and brig would be the brig would offer 3 extra points on the CvA.


Anyone have any thoughts, comments or suggestions?

Well, without 425, and the subsequent AS bonuses you get from training MnE as a warmage, you're going to have to stay under-hunting by around 10 levels to even hit anything for much longer...

Also, 919 is mostly required for a warmage later in the game since they have to stay in offensive with lowered DS and limited protection compared to sturdier professions.

I don't know if you'll do well with anything less than 25-30 ranks in MnE (never underestimate 430), 35 ranks (haste is absolutely vital for surviving in RT locking situations) in MjE, and 19 ranks in Wiz. It will also suck to not have 550 to break free from stuns and status effects, but that isn't as big a deal as 425 or 919.

Minimum points required for redux is approximately 1060 + (2000/level). At level 34 this equates to ~1119 points. The points threshold decreases with higher levels. For a level 100 character the threshold is ~1080 points. Also, the fact that you have spell training does not affect this number. Spell ranks reduce the redux % only. If the test instance is open and you have access, you should be able to verify the number of points required.

Mark

Slowly making my way there.


This is where I was moments ago:

[redux: Level: 38]
[redux: Primary skills: 39]
[redux: Secondary skils: 96]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 39]
[redux: Redux points: 891.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

Here is where I'm at for level 39:

[redux: Level: 39]
[redux: Primary skills: 40]
[redux: Secondary skils: 99]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 40]
[redux: Redux points: 916.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

I figure in about 5 (maybe 6) levels he'll finally have his redux! So far the journey has been pretty easy with his training, I'm just curious as to how far it'll take him since he won't be training up any further in spells.

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Originally Posted by drumpel

Just curious is all.

I've been trotting along my dwarf warmage and playing him more lately. He's level 34 and is maxed out on spell levels that I will be training him in (he's got a fun backstory I created and his training reflects this and his limited spell knowledge).

Here's his current skills:
(at level 34), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 130 35
Shield Use.........................| 130 35
Combat Maneuvers...................| 66 14
Edged Weapons......................| 130 35
Physical Fitness...................| 130 35
Harness Power......................| 130 35
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 117 29
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 141 41
Perception.........................| 74 16
Climbing...........................| 117 29
Swimming...........................| 117 29

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 20

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 13


At 29 EL:A ranks, he gets his swing RT down to 1 second with 506 running and swinging his 6x falchion.
I plan on just focusing EL:E at this point....maybe tossing a few ranks into Air eventually to hit the next bonus point for 911 and another open disk spot.
Only wielding a 4x shield right now - will work on getting one to 7x eventually, then hopefully to T5 for the extra CvA against spells

A few enhancives to help boost his OHE ranks up a bit, plus the use of EVOKE 902 and COL his current AS is 278.
If needed I can utilize the self cast tremors and even call wind - should I want to chance the spell hindrance (at it's max low of 7%).
He's currently wearing some Cuirbouilli Leather equivalent (some 4x, SWCP leather breastplate and some DCP arm greaves).
I had him learn up to 913 for the added benefit of a spell you're hard pressed to find outside of knowing it and 520 so he could get the base use of Mage Armor.

He can easily obtain elementals from others. The only real downside I see with him is as he progresses higher in level that his AS will be behind a bit due to the lack of 425 and his DS/TD will lack some because of not knowing 430. I can offset some of the lack of TD with ensorcell on his armor and shield, so I'm not too worried about that.

With disarm having changed some so you don't outright lose your weapon if you can't steal it back from a creature, I'm not horribly concerned about dumping his CMAN points into disarm. I'll probably focus on Cunning Defense first, then I'll gauge how well my DS is - if rubbing a small statue won't be enough, I may snag up a few ranks of Combat Movement for a few extra points of DS and then work on getting Feint up to rank 3.

;redux
[redux: Level: 34]
[redux: Primary skills: 35]
[redux: Secondary skils: 84]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 35]
[redux: Redux points: 791.0] (this was at 688 last level, though I'm not sure where this number needs to be before you actually hit redux)
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

In the end (capped, if I get him that far) I plan on having him in brig (sure, he'll have 20some% spell hindrance, but he won't be a big caster of any sorts so it shouldn't really matter) or an equivalent of leather breastplate with accessories. The only big difference between leather breastplate and brig would be the brig would offer 3 extra points on the CvA.


Anyone have any thoughts, comments or suggestions?

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;redux
--- Lich: redux active.
[redux: Level: 100]
[redux: Primary skills: 101]
[redux: Secondary skils: 318]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 420]
[redux: Redux points: 3542.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 303]
[redux: Too many spell ranks to have redux.]
--- Lich: redux has exited.

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Methais (at level 100), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
  Skill Name                        | Current Current
                                    |  Bonus  Ranks
  Armor Use..........................|      70      15
  Combat Maneuvers...................|    201    101
  Ranged Weapons.....................|    201    101
  Thrown Weapons.....................|    217    117
  Polearm Weapons....................|    201    101
  Brawling...........................|    201    101
  Multi Opponent Combat..............|    201    101
  Physical Fitness...................|    201    101
  Dodging............................|    201    101
  Arcane Symbols.....................|    302    202
  Magic Item Use.....................|    302    202
  Spell Aiming.......................|    302    202
  Harness Power......................|    403    303
  Elemental Mana Control.............|    302    202
  Spirit Mana Control................|      70      15
  Elemental Lore - Air...............|    187      87
  Elemental Lore - Earth.............|    160      60
  Elemental Lore - Fire..............|      90      20
  Elemental Lore - Water.............|    130      35
  Survival...........................|    201    101
  Disarming Traps....................|    201    101
  Picking Locks......................|    302    202
  Stalking and Hiding................|    201    101
  Perception.........................|    302    202
  Climbing...........................|    201    101
  Swimming...........................|    201    101
  First Aid..........................|    302    202
  Trading............................|    302    202
  Pickpocketing......................|    201    101

Spell Lists
  Major Elemental....................|            127

Spell Lists
  Minor Elemental....................|              75

Spell Lists
  Wizard.............................|            101

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Nope. :(

I don't have redux yet, but the 5 ranks of crit padding from 520 do help me out in my leather breastplate (that I really should get padded, too).

A flashy vesperti swings a spiked flail at you!
AS: +292 vs DS: +234 with AvD: +46 + d100 roll: +97 = +201
... and hits for 55 points of damage!
Strike pierces gall bladder!
That's gotta hurt!
You are stunned for 3 rounds!

A flashy vesperti swings a spiked flail at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
AS: +292 vs DS: +215 with AvD: +46 + d100 roll: +14 = +137
... and hits for 22 points of damage!
Torn muscle in your left leg!

I wanted to get my revenge on it, but the stupid "flashy" cheap shit gives the creature the ability to magically lash out while "consuming" nearby energy....so you can get dispelled and injured all at the same time!

A flashy vesperti throws back his head and shrieks!
A swirling burst of essence lashes out from a flashy vesperti, consuming nearby magical energy!
A luminescent aura fades from around you.
The hazy film around you fluxes chaotically!
... 8 points of damage!
Plasma scorches a hole in your shield arm!
You are stunned for 1 round!
The hazy film fades from around you.
A swirling burst of essence lashes out from a flashy vesperti, consuming nearby magical energy!
The deep blue glow leaves you.
You are coated in a hazy film.

I fucking hate those stupid mini-bosses.

Getting closer.

>;redux
--- Lich: redux active.
[redux: Level: 40]
[redux: Primary skills: 41]
[redux: Secondary skils: 102]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 41]
[redux: Redux points: 941.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

Slowly getting closer.

[redux: Level: 41]
[redux: Primary skills: 42]
[redux: Secondary skils: 105]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 42]
[redux: Redux points: 966.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

[redux: Level: 42]
[redux: Primary skills: 43]
[redux: Secondary skils: 108]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 43]
[redux: Redux points: 991.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

Closing in on my goal - holidays slowed me down, though. I was hoping to be level 43 and on my way to 44 by now.

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Originally Posted by drumpel

[redux: Level: 42]
[redux: Primary skills: 43]
[redux: Secondary skils: 108]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 43]
[redux: Redux points: 991.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

Closing in on my goal - holidays slowed me down, though. I was hoping to be level 43 and on my way to 44 by now.

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At your current training rate (25 pts. per level) you will ascend from purgatory into the promised land at level 47. You'll need approximately 1107 pts. at that level to expunge the dreaded "Current skills bonus is insufficient to gain DF reduction", messaging. You would have redux at level 45 if you were fully trained in the three secondary skills,

Mark

This is an awesome project but I can't see how you get around the lack of 425 AS much past the mid levels or so. As it stands, a melee warmage needs a gang of enhancives to remain viable swinging at cap, and that's with 425 maxed out. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by audioserf

This is an awesome project but I can't see how you get around the lack of 425 AS much past the mid levels or so. As it stands, a melee warmage needs a gang of enhancives to remain viable swinging at cap, and that's with 425 maxed out. Good luck!

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I'm having fun - the only thing that's been pissing me off so far are those stupid ass 'mini-boss' creatures. Most can be avoided without penalty, but a few of them have stupid fucking cheap mechanics; such as dispelling and causing damage at the same time or that SMRv2 based stun they do. You can't even try to run by them without fear of getting tagged by these cheap mechanics.

He does use a few enchancives and with the use of 509 and 902 on top of a 5x weapon he mainly uses, his AS is 293. I could get it to 303 if I switched to a 7x weapon, but I haven't felt the need for it yet.

It's been an entertaining experience learning to how to hunt with a crippled build. I don't have access to the spells I'm used to with my other wizards and I don't have the CMAN/Shield abilities like my paladin and rogue get.

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Originally Posted by Riltus

At your current training rate (25 pts. per level) you will ascend from purgatory into the promised land at level 47. You'll need approximately 1107 pts. at that level to expunge the dreaded "Current skills bonus is insufficient to gain DF reduction", messaging. You would have redux at level 45 if you were fully trained in the three secondary skills,

Mark

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I'm trying to sink in any spare TPs to get CM closer and closer to 1x, but right now it's only just over .5x. I just hit level 43 and slowing getting closer.

[redux: Level: 43]
[redux: Primary skills: 44]
[redux: Secondary skils: 112]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 44]
[redux: Redux points: 1020.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

I'd like to think that the help of redux could make running bandits a bit easier. They have a tendency to put me into short stuns or a small stack of RT and then plink away at me right now.

Here's what a normal bandit encounter generally looks like for me:
A human outlaw leaps out of his hiding place!
[Roll result: 80 (open d100: 64)]
A human outlaw feints low, and you almost buy the ruse, but you recover just in time.

Roundtime: 2 sec.
>
Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
>
A half-elven mugger leaps out of her hiding place!
A half-elven mugger swings a broadsword at you!
AS: +249 vs DS: +278 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +81 = +86
A clean miss.
>
[Roll result: 114 (open d100: 32)]
A half-elven bandit springs upon you from behind and delivers a blow to your head!
You feel dazed!
>stomp
You are still stunned.
>
An urgh trots in!
>
A half-elven mugger swings a broadsword at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
AS: +249 vs DS: +245 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +79 = +117
... and hits for 4 points of damage!
Flashy swing!
You're lucky that it only bopped your nose.
>
A half-elven bandit swings with a fist-scythe at you!
AS: +279 vs DS: +245 with AvD: +28 + d100 roll: +37 = +99
A clean miss.
>
A human outlaw swings a morning star at you!
AS: +229 vs DS: +245 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +80 = +96
A clean miss.
>stomp
You are still stunned.
>stomp
You are still stunned.
>stomp
You are still stunned.
>
A half-elven mugger swings a broadsword at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
AS: +249 vs DS: +245 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +90 = +128
... and hits for 8 points of damage!
Deft slash across chest draws blood!
You take a deep breath.
>stomp
You are still stunned.
>stomp
The glowing specks of energy surrounding you intensify!
A half-elven bandit swings with a fist-scythe at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
AS: +279 vs DS: +265 with AvD: +28 + d100 roll: +70 = +112
... and hits for 2 points of damage!
Glancing blow to your back.
That could have been worse.
>
You are still stunned.
>stomp
You are still stunned.
>stomp
You are still stunned.
>stomp
A human outlaw swings a morning star at you!
AS: +229 vs DS: +245 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +40 = +56
A clean miss.
>
You are still stunned.
>stomp
You are still stunned.
>stomp
You are still stunned.
>stomp
You are still stunned.
>
A half-elven mugger swings a broadsword at you!
AS: +249 vs DS: +245 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +12 = +50
A clean miss.
>stomp
You are still stunned.
>stomp
You are still stunned.
>
A half-elven bandit swings with a fist-scythe at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
AS: +279 vs DS: +245 with AvD: +28 + d100 roll: +94 = +156
... and hits for 16 points of damage!
Quick slash catches your cheek!
Dimples are always nice.
>stomp
You are still stunned.
>stomp
As you stomp your foot sharply, the dirt shakes wildly!
The ground begins to shake violently, making it hard to stand.
An urgh loses his balance and falls over.
A half-elven bandit loses her balance and falls over.
A half-elven mugger loses her balance and falls over.
A human outlaw loses his balance and falls over.
>stance o
You are now in an offensive stance.
>at
You swing a perfect zorchar short-sword at a half-elven bandit!
AS: +309 vs DS: +151 with AvD: +27 + d100 roll: +50 = +235
... and hit for 49 points of damage!
Strike pierces gall bladder!
That's gotta hurt!
The half-elven bandit is stunned!
Your zorchar short-sword fades some.
Roundtime: 4 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.



Then I go on to STOMP to keep them controlled best as possible, it may not generate RT for them, but it keeps them from wanting to hide on me again. Then I just focus on swinging and beat the crap out of them.

With 520 active getting and STUNNED I hit the Masterfully crit padded range, which helps keep some of the more serious hits under control some. I should probably look into adding some damage padding to my armor since I get free 5 points of crit padding with 520 active.

what are your skills at now?

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Originally Posted by LOL BRIELUS

what are your skills at now?

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Skills pre-enhancives
Armor Use..........................| 144 44
Shield Use.........................| 144 44
Combat Maneuvers...................| 102 24
Edged Weapons......................| 144 44
Physical Fitness...................| 144 44
Harness Power......................| 144 44
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 120 30
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 151 51
Perception.........................| 102 24
Climbing...........................| 134 37
Swimming...........................| 134 37

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 20

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 13


Skills with enhancives on
Armor Use..........................| 144 44
Shield Use.........................| 151 51
Combat Maneuvers...................| 102 24
Edged Weapons......................| 155 55
Physical Fitness...................| 144 44
Magic Item Use.....................| 3 0
Harness Power......................| 144 44
Elemental Mana Control.............| 2 0
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 120 30
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 151 51
Stalking and Hiding................| 10 2
Perception.........................| 102 24
Climbing...........................| 134 37
Swimming...........................| 137 38

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 20

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 13

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Originally Posted by drumpel

Skills pre-enhancives
Armor Use..........................| 144 44
Shield Use.........................| 144 44
Combat Maneuvers...................| 102 24
Edged Weapons......................| 144 44
Physical Fitness...................| 144 44
Harness Power......................| 144 44
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 120 30
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 151 51
Perception.........................| 102 24
Climbing...........................| 134 37
Swimming...........................| 134 37

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 20

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 13


Skills with enhancives on
Armor Use..........................| 144 44
Shield Use.........................| 151 51
Combat Maneuvers...................| 102 24
Edged Weapons......................| 155 55
Physical Fitness...................| 144 44
Magic Item Use.....................| 3 0
Harness Power......................| 144 44
Elemental Mana Control.............| 2 0
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 120 30
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 151 51
Stalking and Hiding................| 10 2
Perception.........................| 102 24
Climbing...........................| 134 37
Swimming...........................| 137 38

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 20

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 13

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Seems like a lot of lore but whatever works lol

I’d 1x perception tho

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Originally Posted by Derex

Seems like a lot of lore but whatever works lol

I’d 1x perception tho

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EL:A is to get any 5 second OHE swing down to 1 second with 506 with him. Right now a scimitar (5x w/ air flares) and a falchion (5x w/ earth flares) he can swing at 1 second. I use a 7x/T1, lightning flaring short sword against squishy targets (scale armor and down). I use the scimitar against creatures with immunity to stun or have some kind of natural padding - the air flares can knock down consistently on lower flares and it has a better DF than the short sword. I use the falchion against heavier armor targets.

EL:E this helps boost 509 and 502 bonus. This one is a must for a warmage to help give them a better than just +1.5 to AS every level past 40 ranks of their weapon skill.
I did 2x in lores right away to get his Air up high enough and also get a jump on his Earth lore to help out. I've since dropped to only doing 1x every training in EL:E.
At 51 EL:E he gets an extra +5 to his Weapon Ranks bonus (over the initial 10 that spell 902 gives) and he gets an extra +7 to his AS from the Strength spell. +12 AS might not seem like much, but every bit helps when you're limited with what spells you have in your arsenal.


I didn't start perception right away, precious TPs and all at the start. I'm working on keeping that a skill I always train in from here on out. With Perception and CM both at 24 ranks, they're a combined 48 ranks and that is just over 1x to go towards SMRv2 defense. Most pures don't do more than 1x PF (which I do) and 1x Perception pre-cap. In terms of SMRv2 defense, I'm right on par with them.

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Originally Posted by drumpel

Right now a scimitar (5x w/ air flares).

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You really are trying to extra gimp yourself, aren't you!

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Originally Posted by Maerit

You really are trying to extra gimp yourself, aren't you!

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Might as well go f2p lol

Creeping ever so closer:

[redux: Level: 44]
[redux: Primary skills: 45]
[redux: Secondary skils: 116]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 45]
[redux: Redux points: 1049.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

I tweaked my training skills a little and bumped up a few more ranks here and there to help boost my goal to hitting DF with my wizard.

I just level to 45 and checked into the local inn. Upon leaving this was the only messaging I saw:

Leaving your room, you check back out of the Solhaven Inn, wander over to the front desk and hand the room key back to the innkeeper. He nods and thanks you for your patronage.

I've hit my goal!

>;redux
--- Lich: redux active.
[redux: Level: 45]
[redux: Primary skills: 47]
[redux: Secondary skils: 125]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 47]
[redux: Redux points: 1111.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

It's been a bit of a challenge as of late hunting him, but I've been doing pretty good against Shan. I try to avoid warriors because usually it goes like this:
Disarm - stuck in some RT with no weapon out.
Tackle - stuck in more RT and on the ground.
Lay there until the RT clears and hope nothing else comes around while I'm down.

Clerics/Rangers/Wizards - as long as they haven't prepped a spell, I just STOMP and they fall over and I wait for them to stand up (they stance to offensive when standing) then I STOMP again and kill them all.

I've got 2 ranks in Disarm, Feint and Cunning Defense now. Hopefully that'll help reduce some of the disarm fun the shan warriors have been having with me.

Skills are:
Armor Use..........................| 147 47
Shield Use.........................| 146 46
Combat Maneuvers...................| 124 32
Edged Weapons......................| 147 47
Physical Fitness...................| 147 47
Harness Power......................| 146 46
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 120 30
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 149 49
Perception.........................| 105 25
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 90 20

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 20

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 13


I wonder how much longer things will work out for this guy.

Seems a warrior didn't take a liking to me killing it's ranger friend.....

A shan warrior bares his teeth and barks ferociously!
A shan warrior swings a gleaming silver flamberge at you!
AS: +341 vs DS: +282 with AvD: +46 + d100 roll: +95 = +200
... and hits for 69 points of damage!
Whoosh! Several ribs driven into your lungs.
You are stunned for 5 rounds!

At least he didn't boost his AS again while I was stunned. Also took a leg minor and then ran away when the stun wore off. Let us not forget that 520 helped here too, gives me a base +5 crit padding when not stunned.

Have you considered going the DS route? I have a similarly leveled warmage that didn't have any issue with the warriors (but did get spiked a few times by rangers). I have 20 ranks CM, 1x in THW, 2x in spells up to 520, 930, and 46 in mne. wearing doubles. Enjoying it greatly

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Originally Posted by LOL BRIELUS

Have you considered going the DS route? I have a similarly leveled warmage that didn't have any issue with the warriors (but did get spiked a few times by rangers). I have 20 ranks CM, 1x in THW, 2x in spells up to 520, 930, and 46 in mne. wearing doubles. Enjoying it greatly

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He's at his max number of spells he'll ever train in. Up to 913 and 520.

His DS in defensive is over 400, that was his offensive DS he got tagged with that hit. I didn't have a small statue active, so that would have helped a bit. Usually he doesn't get hit that hard, just one of those rarity shots that happened.

He currently uses cuirbouilli leather armor and his spell hindrance is only 7%. Since he doesn't require the constant use of spells, 7% doesn't fell like it's a penalty for him. Only spell he has to constantly try to keep using is 506. My next goal is to get him fully trained to use studded leather at the lowest spell hindrance at 70 AU ranks.

Now sitting at level 46 and having my redux, morbid curiosity left me wondering if I could run the DR Arena with this guy. Last time I tried the Arena was 2 or so years ago with my level 46 rogue and he just got his ass handed to him and only made it to the second champion before time ran out. Without having to watch for traps and the fact I can swing like a mad man, it only took about 7.5 minutes.

I feel kind of bad that it felt like I was just kind of strolling through the park. Sure, I took a few shots, but overall it was pretty simple.

Keep up 506, those that turtled I'd just STOMP with 909 self cast and swing like mad. A few monsters shook stuns off and the champs didn't stun of course, but overall it was pretty easy. Here are a couple of hits I took from the last champ:

In an awe inspiring display of combat mastery, an imposing minotaur champion engages you in a furious dance macabre, spiralling into a blur of strikes and ripostes!
An imposing minotaur champion swings a broadsword at you!
AS: +338 vs DS: +263 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +83 = +192
... and hits for 24 points of damage!
Jarring blow to your back.

An imposing minotaur champion swings a broadsword at you!
AS: +338 vs DS: +263 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +89 = +198
... and hits for 24 points of damage!
Broken finger on your left hand!

An imposing minotaur champion belts out a guttural battle cry!
An imposing minotaur champion swings a broadsword at you!
AS: +344 vs DS: +277 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +68 = +169
... and hits for 22 points of damage!
Slash to your left leg hits high!
Kinda makes your knees weak, huh?

Kind of fun having a bit of redux and the ability to spam 506 and swing like hell. Now that I'm a couple levels over shan, they're pretty easy. Warriors still disarm me with a 65+ roll, but other than that, I handle them pretty good with this warmage.

Love your journey and will continue monitoring. Makes me want to go completely outside norms with some other toon just to test and have fun with it.

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Originally Posted by drumpel

Now sitting at level 46 and having my redux, morbid curiosity left me wondering if I could run the DR Arena with this guy. Last time I tried the Arena was 2 or so years ago with my level 46 rogue and he just got his ass handed to him and only made it to the second champion before time ran out. Without having to watch for traps and the fact I can swing like a mad man, it only took about 7.5 minutes.

I feel kind of bad that it felt like I was just kind of strolling through the park. Sure, I took a few shots, but overall it was pretty simple.

Keep up 506, those that turtled I'd just STOMP with 909 self cast and swing like mad. A few monsters shook stuns off and the champs didn't stun of course, but overall it was pretty easy. Here are a couple of hits I took from the last champ:

In an awe inspiring display of combat mastery, an imposing minotaur champion engages you in a furious dance macabre, spiralling into a blur of strikes and ripostes!
An imposing minotaur champion swings a broadsword at you!
AS: +338 vs DS: +263 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +83 = +192
... and hits for 24 points of damage!
Jarring blow to your back.

An imposing minotaur champion swings a broadsword at you!
AS: +338 vs DS: +263 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +89 = +198
... and hits for 24 points of damage!
Broken finger on your left hand!

An imposing minotaur champion belts out a guttural battle cry!
An imposing minotaur champion swings a broadsword at you!
AS: +344 vs DS: +277 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +68 = +169
... and hits for 22 points of damage!
Slash to your left leg hits high!
Kinda makes your knees weak, huh?

Kind of fun having a bit of redux and the ability to spam 506 and swing like hell. Now that I'm a couple levels over shan, they're pretty easy. Warriors still disarm me with a 65+ roll, but other than that, I handle them pretty good with this warmage.

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Your redux reduced the broadsword's damage factor from .250 to .240 and the redux factor (RF) range calculated from these attacks is: MIN .040 (4.0%) to MAX .043 (4.3%). In both attack 1 (ER 192) and attack 2 (ER 198) the total damage was reduced from 26 to 24. In the third attack (ER 169) the actual and calculated damage were both 22, therefore no reduction in damage taken.

If the redux factor was lower than .040 then the actual damage (24) in the 2nd attack would have only been reduced to 25. If the redux factor was higher then .043 then the actual damage (22) in third attack would have been reduced to 21.

Mark

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Originally Posted by Riltus

Your redux reduced the broadsword's damage factor from .250 to .240 and the redux factor (RF) range calculated from these attacks is: MIN .040 (4.0%) to MAX .043 (4.3%). In both attack 1 (ER 192) and attack 2 (ER 198) the total damage was reduced from 26 to 24. In the third attack (ER 169) the actual and calculated damage were both 22, therefore no reduction in damage taken.

If the redux factor was lower than .040 then the actual damage (24) in the 2nd attack would have only been reduced to 25. If the redux factor was higher then .043 then the actual damage (22) in third attack would have been reduced to 21.

Mark

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Originally Posted by Riltus

Your redux reduced the broadsword's damage factor from .250 to .240 and the redux factor (RF) range calculated from these attacks is: MIN .040 (4.0%) to MAX .043 (4.3%). In both attack 1 (ER 192) and attack 2 (ER 198) the total damage was reduced from 26 to 24. In the third attack (ER 169) the actual and calculated damage were both 22, therefore no reduction in damage taken.

If the redux factor was lower than .040 then the actual damage (24) in the 2nd attack would have only been reduced to 25. If the redux factor was higher then .043 then the actual damage (22) in third attack would have been reduced to 21.

Mark

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Question for you....since I don't dive into the DF damage calculation like others do.

He's wearing scale (cuirbouilli armor, which you probably already know).
He's got +5 crit padding from 520 running. Also, his arm greaves give +7 extra crit padding on the arms (since 520 is supposed to stack and his armor doesn't have any padding, his arms should, in theory, have +12 crit padding).

Curious to know if that changes things at all in your calculations?

You should get 919 eventually. That will make up for your lack of DS from 430 and such. Also, you seem to be over-training in lores which doesn't seem to be a good plan. Those points should be getting you to 1x in CMAN instead. Not sure why so much earth lore this early on.

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Originally Posted by drumpel

Question for you....since I don't dive into the DF damage calculation like others do.

He's wearing scale (cuirbouilli armor, which you probably already know).
He's got +5 crit padding from 520 running. Also, his arm greaves give +7 extra crit padding on the arms (since 520 is supposed to stack and his armor doesn't have any padding, his arms should, in theory, have +12 crit padding).

Curious to know if that changes things at all in your calculations?

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Critical padding and/or weighting do not affect redux calculations. Damage padding and weighting, however, will distort the results.

The redux factor range that I calculated for your character includes the spell penalty. Without spells this character's RF would be approximately .055 (5.5%). This is a ballpark figure since I only have a rough estimate on the spell penalty effect.

Can you post the number of redux points this character had at the time of these attacks? Thanks!

Mark

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Originally Posted by Maerit

You should get 919 eventually. That will make up for your lack of DS from 430 and such. Also, you seem to be over-training in lores which doesn't seem to be a good plan. Those points should be getting you to 1x in CMAN instead. Not sure why so much earth lore this early on.

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I haven't trained in lores in the past two levels, they're on hold. Any extra points are going to CMAN (first) and perception (second).

The idea of building up redux with him is to see if the offset of spells that he lacks, will pay off or balance out as he gets higher in level. Then again, I built a story around him that I like and this will be who he is, limited in spells and sporting redux for a wizard.

Shan were a pain in the ass the first level or so I hunted them (when he was level 44). Learning how to control the swarms and what tactics work best took a bit of trial and error. He's very viable at hunting right now. He doesn't have access to 400s, so he can't utilize ewave and 912 can work, but only sees about a 66% success rate at knocking down shan when he uses it.

I've learned to utilize STOMP with 909 when a ranger enters the room - I hate getting thorned by them. Usually it puts their DS around 240 and if I get a high enough endroll or a good flare, the ranger will be stunned and that's the end of him. If I don't get a stun and he stands, he goes into offensive to stand and his standing DS is usually around 230 and I make short work of him.

Clerics and Wizards - I can generally get good results from using cman feint on them and I can hit them most of the time without any other actions. If their DS is too high, STOMP fixes that. I don't have to worry about their CS based spells, his TD is high enough to defend from them.

Warriors, their armor usually means the DF from my shortsword won't give me a direct stun unless I hit the eye or neck with a hard enough swing. The lightning flares are pretty good at stunning them. I just need to work on keeping them down if I really want to take them on to keep from getting tackled or disarmed.

In the end, the only thing that really concerns me is the lack of TD due to not having 430. I can make up for some of it if I were to get his shield to T5 (only at T2 right now) and his final armor he'll be using (some sort of studded leather) to T5. His current armor is only T3 (or T2.....I can't remember without checking). He can gain a little more TD and for his current hunting range, it's enough to keep him out of harms way, for now.

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Originally Posted by Riltus

Critical padding and/or weighting do not affect redux calculations. Damage padding and weighting, however, will distort the results.

The redux factor range that I calculated for your character includes the spell penalty. Without spells this character's RF would be approximately .055 (5.5%). This is a ballpark figure since I only have a rough estimate on the spell penalty effect.

Can you post the number of redux points this character had at the time of these attacks? Thanks!

Mark

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[redux: Level: 46]
[redux: Primary skills: 48]
[redux: Secondary skils: 129]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 48]
[redux: Redux points: 1140.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

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Originally Posted by drumpel

The idea of building up redux with him is to see if the offset of spells that he lacks, will pay off or balance out as he gets higher in level.

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Unlikely, since CS attacks and (I think) cmans don't give a shit about redux.

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Originally Posted by Methais

Unlikely, since CS attacks and (I think) cmans don't give a shit about redux.

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True, but some maneuvers take crit padding into account and I get some help there with 520 active. So that's a bonus.

As a warmage, i completely owned the arena. Was finishing it in under 200 seconds, very pleased. I'm sure you could do it. Haste plus 909 destroys

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Originally Posted by LOL BRIELUS

As a warmage, i completely owned the arena. Was finishing it in under 200 seconds, very pleased. I'm sure you could do it. Haste plus 909 destroys

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At what level was this happening on your warmage? I destroy with a sub-20 warmage, but it could take up to 6 minutes with a capped / fully buffed warmage.

Lvl 47.

His adventure into furthering his redux continues!

[redux: Level: 48]
[redux: Primary skills: 50]
[redux: Secondary skils: 137]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 50]
[redux: Redux points: 1198.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

I'll have to branch out from hunting shan after this level or next, if I can bare the extra time it'll take to kill enough to fry.

Wonder where I should head off to once I finish with shan....any suggestions on spots to check out?

Maybe Raptors/Leopards in Gyldemar, EN?

Still moving along. Kind of slow to get to this level with all the stupid mayhem going around...not getting enough time to play as much at the moment.

[redux: Level: 49]
[redux: Primary skills: 51]
[redux: Secondary skils: 141]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 51]
[redux: Redux points: 1227.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

Shan are still huntable, but having to cutdown 30+ to get my mind near full gets dull. I'm looking to turn my attention to trali in EN. If that doesn't pan out well, perhaps kiramon defenders.....

Finally dragged my sorry butt out enough to hit level 50.

[redux: Level: 50]
[redux: Primary skills: 52]
[redux: Secondary skils: 145]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 52]
[redux: Redux points: 1256.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]

Also figure I should mention that here are my current skills at level 50:

(at level 50), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 152 52
Shield Use.........................| 151 51
Combat Maneuvers...................| 142 42
Edged Weapons......................| 152 52
Physical Fitness...................| 152 52
Harness Power......................| 151 51
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 120 30
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 149 49
Perception.........................| 122 31
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 90 20

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 20

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 13

Combat Maneuver training is as follows:

Skill name - - - - - - - Ranks
Disarm Weapon - - - - - 2
Feint - - - - - - - - - - - - 3
Cunning Defense - - - - 2

Once I get CM to a full 1x (hopefully by level 60) I can start pushing up lores some and training more in climbing and push perception higher. Training that second rank of CM is really eating up the TPs right now.

With my perfect 7x/T1, zorchar shortsword, COL and enhancives I get my AS to 336. If I was really bored I could take the weapon to 9x.....but I think I'll keep my pots for a more efficient weapon. The shortsword is decent for what it can do, but I'm working on getting a perfect gornar falchion up to 7x (under the old enchant....probably only get it to 6x before the old system is pulled, but both my enchanting wizards will have maxed essence stored to take it to 7x on the new system).

So far it's been pretty fun. Certainly a challenge to find creatures to hunt as time goes on and he gets higher in levels. I don't take as much fun in hunting bandits as I did when he was around level 30-40, the stupid traps you walk into can be horribly debilitating. Not to mention the fact that sure, he's nearly 1x in CM and has the small bonus from Cunning Defense, the subdues, groin kicks and such leave him with such a long stun duration or RT that he gets plinked away at to near death and it's not any fun to constantly run away to heal up, head back out, run away to heal up, head back out..... Too bad self cast 909 doesn't knock bandits from hiding.....

Welcome to level 51!

[redux: Level: 51]
[redux: Primary skills: 53]
[redux: Secondary skils: 149]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 53]
[redux: Redux points: 1285.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]
[redux: Your Redux estimates to be 3.04%.]

I probably would have gone with shield + UAC combination here for efficiency and to overcome the AS issues that not having 425 is going to cause. Having low UAF isn't so bad, and you can't get disarmed. It's holding a shield that would lower your damage output and chance to hit by dramatically messing with your MM. However, I think it might still out-perform OHE.

Also, it would reduce your lore requirements to get 1s RT with 506 so you could easily have 1x in CMAN by this point. You're currently way over-trained in lores, which is really costing a lot of TPs that could go to improving your physical skills.

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Originally Posted by Maerit

I probably would have gone with shield + UAC combination here for efficiency and to overcome the AS issues that not having 425 is going to cause. Having low UAF isn't so bad, and you can't get disarmed. It's holding a shield that would lower your damage output and chance to hit by dramatically messing with your MM. However, I think it might still out-perform OHE.

Also, it would reduce your lore requirements to get 1s RT with 506 so you could easily have 1x in CMAN by this point. You're currently way over-trained in lores, which is really costing a lot of TPs that could go to improving your physical skills.

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He needs 29 ranks of air lore to get a 5 second OHE weapon to 1 second RT. At least that's what he needed 14-15 levels back, not sure if it changed much with a few stat point increases since then. Right now, swinging a short sword (4 second weapon) means I can be encumbered a bit and still maintain that 1 second RT if I'm not ready to head in yet.

I haven't trained him in lores for the past maybe 8 levels now, they've been stagnant. I let all my spare TPs filter into picking up an extra CM rank each level.

One thing I do wish I changed in my training path was getting CMAN FEINT up to rank 3 sooner. I should have taken feint to rank 3 first, but I only just picked it up rank 3 at level 49. It's pretty handy CMAN for a warmage, most targets I go against I can force out of defensive stance using feint with decent success at rank 3 and cut them down in a few seconds.

I know there's a free fixskill coming up in a month, I may think about addressing some skills by that time. Right now he's very viable for hunting, granted I'm under hunting by a few levels. It just takes some time to figure out new hunting grounds with him since he's a bit limited when compared to other warmages that haven't skimped out of spell training or a warrior/rogue that has access to a slew of more CMANs and/or guild skills. So getting to know when to defend from a new creature's attacks or when to put them prone with 909 or when to time your feint is a new learning process, even on creatures I may have hunted many, many times before with other professions.

I'd love for specialized shield skills to be made universal for all classes. Not all of the shield skills, but some of the more basic ones. I'd love to have use of SHIELD BASH with my wizard. Start off with a Feint, followed with a SHIELD BASH and then beat the piss out of the creature with my weapon.

I hope the ASCENSION skill system will help me in my efforts to build a better version of this warmage I'm working on. I know a few possible ideas suggested in the list the GM posted would certainly be beneficial for him. I guess we wait and see what kind of skills/abilities come out for that system.

I jumped into the test server and pumped up his levels a bit to see if he's still viable. I found I can manage the black forest without any difficulty as long as I keep the creatures to no more than 2 to a room and I can keep them down. Anyway.

I put him to level 61, here are his skills:
Armor Use..........................| 163 63
Shield Use.........................| 162 62
Combat Maneuvers...................| 162 62
Edged Weapons......................| 163 63
Physical Fitness...................| 163 63
Harness Power......................| 162 62
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 120 30
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 149 49
Perception.........................| 162 62
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 102 24



Here are a couple of hits that I decided to take to see what the end results would be. He's still wearing just his cuirbouilli armor. I let an ogre smack me a few times with its mace, here are the results:

A black forest ogre swings a rust-covered dhara at you!
AS: +374 vs DS: +273 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +100 = +234
... and hits for 32 points of damage!
Mighty blow cracks several of your ribs.

The impact of the ogre's blow rattles teeth and brain and sends you flying south!
(resulted in a minor chest wound)


A black forest ogre throws a rust-covered dhara at you!
AS: +324 vs DS: +216 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +69 = +210
... and hits for 24 points of damage!
Stomach shot lands with a hollow *thump*.
The rust-covered dhara flies past you, disappearing into the local environs.
(resulted in a stomach minor)


A black forest ogre swings a rust-covered dhara at you!
AS: +324 vs DS: +234 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +89 = +212
... and hits for 28 points of damage!
Smash to the kneecap.
(resulted in a leg minor)


So, guys think it's still going good with him? Looks like I can still have some good times over the next 10 levels at least.

I love it! Keep it up if you can and you enjoy it

Yep, still tootling along!

[redux: Level: 52]
[redux: Primary skills: 54]
[redux: Secondary skils: 153]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 54]
[redux: Redux points: 1314.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]
[redux: Your Redux estimates to be 4.04%.]

With the free fixskill coming up soon, I'll be adjusting his skills a bit. Currently they are at:

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I'm dropping some EL:E. Losing 20 ranks will result in a loss of 2 weapon rank bonus from spell 902 and 3 strength bonus from spell 509. Loss of 5 AS.

I'm moving his CM up to full 1x, so those extra 7 ranks of CM should give him +3 to his AS. This shift will put an extra 28 points into this Redux to get a slightly better result over what he has now. It won't be much, but every extra bit helps.
Overall, his AS should only drop by 2 points, which isn't a big deal.

I'm putting some more into his swimming ranks and I will be going 1x from here on out in climbing and swimming until they reach 50 and 60 ranks, respectfully. I want to be able to swim into Nelemar or climb to minos without issues by the time I get to those levels.

I'm going to work on bringing EL:A to 46 ranks as soon as possible - this will give a few extra bonus points for Dodging from 911, a couple extra disk spots and hopefully let him swing any 5 second base OHE at 1 second even when he becomes encumbered some. He can swing any 5 second OHE at 1 second right now, but as soon as he gets slightly encumbered he swings them at 2 seconds - I'm looking to remedy that with some extra EL:A ranks. Once I hit 46 EL:A ranks I'll shift strictly to EL:E.

I also plan on starting to train in MIU starting his next level and will take it 1x from here on out to help offset some spell burst that comes into play at higher hunting grounds. He needs to be able to have 401/406/414/101/107 from outside help to keep him protected as much as possible. Without them he becomes a punching bag, especially to any CS based spells tossed at him.

If by some chance I can get him up to that level 80ish range, when extra TPs become available, he'll be starting to train in Brawling - so if he gets disarmed he'll retain a little extra DS and it'll aid in his redux.

Depending on what can be done with the Ascension skills that are coming out - I may end up altering his training again in the near future, but for now, this is my current plan.

Level up!

[redux: Level: 53]
[redux: Primary skills: 55]
[redux: Secondary skils: 157]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 55]
[redux: Redux points: 1343.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]
[redux: Your Redux estimates to be 5.0%.]

Shifted my skills a bit with the annual fixskill. I put CM to 1x and dropped my EL:E by 20 ranks and made a few other minor shifts in a couple of skills. I'm also thinking about dropping HP down to .5x here on out. Right now at 160 mana I rarely drop under 90 while out hunting and I can't fathom needing 300 mana or so when (if) he caps because he doesn't cast spells much, just ones to keep hunting (902, 506 and 909).

[redux: Level: 53]
[redux: Primary skills: 55]
[redux: Secondary skils: 163]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 55]
[redux: Redux points: 1367.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]
[redux: Your Redux estimates to be 5.73%.]

I'd stick with the 1x HP assuming you have 919, as you'll eventually start needing 919 to stay in offensive as a warmage in many hunting grounds.

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I'd stick with the 1x HP assuming you have 919, as you'll eventually start needing 919 to stay in offensive as a warmage in many hunting grounds.

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Won't have that spell, he's capped with spells he'll ever learn (MjE at 520 and Wiz at 913). Which is why I don't see a need for 300+ mana.

I don't want to cut it out completely because moving up in higher AsG means higher spell hindrance, which means I will probably fail casts more frequently. Right now his 7% hindrance isn't really an issue for him, sometimes I might get a couple of failed casts in a row, but surprisingly I don't see hindrance failures all that often.

I'm really hoping the Ascension skills will provide an exciting set of skills that I can train in to help boost his redux and hopefully allow him to wear chain mail with some sort of tolerable spell hindrance I can live with.

By the time I hit cap - if possible - I should be able to patch together a few Armor Use enchancives + some extra ranks of AU through Ascension to get his AU skill to 130 so he can wear brig with the best 12% hindrance.

Then I'll try out chain mail if they still plan on releasing an Ascension skill that reduces hindrance penalty, I'll be looking to train that. Then if I can find a paladin that's trained up Armor Fluidity to 4 or 5 ranks on top of it, chain mail might be very viable for my mage at cap. Right now I'm kind of playing the waiting game to how things progress as I keep working on leveling him up.

The journey continues:

[redux: Level: 54]
[redux: Primary skills: 56]
[redux: Secondary skils: 166]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 56]
[redux: Redux points: 1392.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]
[redux: Your Redux estimates to be 6.46%.]

Got knocked on my ass and took a pretty good hit, only received a minor. No stuns

A greater faeroth tries to bite you!
AS: +332 vs DS: +230 with AvD: +28 + d100 roll: +73 = +203
... and hits for 41 points of damage!
Nice puncture to the back, just grazed the spine!

I never really noticed how much bites hurt before - like getting hit with a two-handed bastard sword or two-handed trident in scale armor.


I'm reluctant to really push further in levels until Ascension skills come out - I want to see what they offer and what it takes to train in the skills. This was my first hunt since I last leveled a week ago and it went pretty normal - took a couple of hits, just minors.

I haven't done much with him lately, still level 54. But I decided to drag him out to the arena in DR again to see how it goes.

Only lost once out of the 15 matches because my connection hung....everything snapped back after about 30 seconds and a champ had me prone and down to 12 health. I couldn't cast anymore so I had to surrender.

Only change is I moved from my 7x/T1 SWDW short-sword with lightning flares to my 6x/T2 FCW falchion with earth flares. I miss the outrageously high lightning flares that hit at times, but the extra weighting and DF from the falchion seems to cleave through the targets better.

Only creatures giving me troubles are the champs with padding and high DS and the few creatures that might spawn with a ranged weapon and their offensive DS is around 340. That matches my AS range, so it takes a bit to STOMP and whittle them down. Most runs take him about 7 minutes.

It's kind of dull. I don't know how folks do this over and over again.

My last run got interesting for about 20 seconds. Then back to normal as I pounded the piss out everything:

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A scaly hisskra champion thrusts with an awl-pike at you!
  AS: +342 vs DS: +305 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +89 = +159
  ... and hits for 41 points of damage!
  Strike pierces gall bladder!
  That's gotta hurt!
  You are stunned for 3 rounds!
>stance d
You are still stunned.
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A scaly hisskra champion thrusts with an awl-pike at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +342 vs DS: +285 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +39 = +129
  ... and hits for 14 points of damage!
  Hit glances off your hip.
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>stance d
>stance d
A scaly hisskra champion thrusts with an awl-pike at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +342 vs DS: +281 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +52 = +146
  ... and hits for 26 points of damage!
  Minor puncture to the chest.
>
You are still stunned.
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>
You are still stunned.
>stance d
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>
You are still stunned.
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>stance d
>stance d
>stance d
>stance d
You are still stunned.
You are still stunned.
You are still stunned.
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>
You are still stunned.
>stance d
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>
You are still stunned.
>stance d
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>
You are still stunned.
>stance d
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>
You are still stunned.
>stance d
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>
You are still stunned.
>stance d
You are still stunned.
>stance d
>stance d
A scaly hisskra champion thrusts with an awl-pike at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +342 vs DS: +281 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +42 = +136
  ... and hits for 20 points of damage!
  Minor strike to the neck.

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Annoying stun finally wore off so I could toss out sign of staunching, then by the time I killed this champ and got through the next two my, what was 81/182 health, was full again. Fast swings and a T2 blade is awesome. Even keeps the poison from the fog beetles from being dangerous to me.

After killing out 30K+ experience from the 3 dozen or so arena runs over the past couple weeks I cleared enough to make it to level 55! I'm still waiting for Ascension skills to be released before I really put any effort back into playing him.....slow bastards!

[redux: Level: 55]
[redux: Primary skills: 57]
[redux: Secondary skils: 169]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 57]
[redux: Redux points: 1417.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]
[redux: Your Redux estimates to be 7.21%.]

Skills are as such:

Code:

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(at level 55), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
  Skill Name                        | Current Current
                                    |  Bonus  Ranks
  Armor Use..........................|    157      57
  Shield Use.........................|    156      56
  Combat Maneuvers...................|    156      56
  Edged Weapons......................|    157      57
  Physical Fitness...................|    157      57
  Magic Item Use.....................|      15      3
  Harness Power......................|    154      54
  Elemental Lore - Air...............|    128      34
  Elemental Lore - Earth.............|    117      29
  Perception.........................|    132      36
  Climbing...........................|    126      33
  Swimming...........................|    114      28

Spell Lists
  Major Elemental....................|              20

Spell Lists
  Wizard.............................|              13

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Quote:

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Originally Posted by drumpel

I'm still waiting for Ascension skills to be released before I really put any effort back into playing him.....slow bastards!

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Blame Duskruin... they certainly are! ;)

If I can get my redux warmage to cap - I don't see any issues with him being viable. Playing around on the test server to see what kind of hindrance he'd have with ATPs dumped into AU ranks.

Level 100
Wearing plain chain mail (no enchant or ensorcell on it)
Skills:

Code:

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(at level 100), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
  Skill Name                        | Current Current
                                    |  Bonus  Ranks
  Armor Use..........................|    251    151
  Shield Use.........................|    201    101
  Combat Maneuvers...................|    201    101
  Edged Weapons......................|    201    101
  Brawling...........................|      15      3
  Physical Fitness...................|    201    101
  Magic Item Use.....................|      15      3
  Harness Power......................|    160      60
  Elemental Lore - Air...............|    152      52
  Elemental Lore - Earth.............|    250    150
  Perception.........................|    201    101
  Climbing...........................|    150      50
  Swimming...........................|    160      60

Spell Lists
  Major Elemental....................|              20

Spell Lists
  Wizard.............................|              13

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Using his 6x/T2 SWC falchion and his current set of enhancives and COL, his AS is 421.
His DS will be higher. He's not using a small statue at the moment and at the minimum I'd have the armor at 7x/T3, so he's missing out on 60 DS and an extra -6 to CvA (from T3 ensorcell) + another -7 CvA for having enchanted armor over non-enchanted.

Using chain mail with 130 AU ranks (this many ranks is required to get brig down to lowest hindrance of 12%), chain mail has a 45% hindrance. Even when I wear a couple of enhancives that adds +7 to AU and max out ATP AU ranks, he ends up with 158 ranks. The chain mail hindrance never budges from 45%. Without having an full set of AU enahncives (that aren't armor accessories) I don't know if the hindrance will budge from 45% until much closer to the needed 230 AU ranks to achieve 16%. At best, if I found a paladin with 5 ranks of armor fluidity that would only knock off 50% of the base hindrance (which is 8%) and I could get his hindrance down to 37%.

I decided to run out quick to OTF and see what came of things. I don't know what his redux is at (;redux doesn't give a proper return on the test server), but he took a couple of decent shots with only receiving minors.

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>stance d
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
An Ithzir janissary swings a red vultite bulawa at you!
At the last moment, you parry the blow with your falchion!
>
A greater construct swings a massive arm at you!
  AS: +443 vs DS: +494 with AvD: +50 + d100 roll: +14 = +13
  A clean miss.
>stomp
As you stomp your foot sharply, the dirt shakes wildly!
The ground begins to shake violently, making it hard to stand.
An Ithzir janissary loses her balance and falls over.
>stance o
You are now in an offensive stance.
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at an Ithzir janissary!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +216 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +65 = +300
  ... and hit for 73 points of damage!
  Slash to the Ithzir janissary's lower back!
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
An Ithzir janissary stands up with a grunt.
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at an Ithzir janissary!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +266 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +41 = +226
  ... and hit for 41 points of damage!
  Slash to the Ithzir janissary's right arm!
  Slices neatly through the skin and meets bone!
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at an Ithzir janissary!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +256 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +56 = +251
  ... and hit for 45 points of damage!
  Slash to the Ithzir janissary's weapon hand!
  Several fingers fly!
Your gornar falchion fades some.
>at
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at an Ithzir janissary!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +247 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +3 = +207
  ... and hit for 43 points of damage!
  Hard slash to belly severs a few nerve endings.
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>at
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
...wait 1 seconds.
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
A greater construct swings a massive arm at you!
  AS: +443 vs DS: +322 with AvD: +50 + d100 roll: +49 = +220
  ... and hits for 26 points of damage!
  Neck vertebrae snap.
  You are stunned for 1 rounds!
>
You are still stunned.
>
You are still stunned.
>at
>at
You are still stunned.
>
You are still stunned.
>at
You are still stunned.
>
An Ithzir janissary swings a red vultite bulawa at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +411 vs DS: +266 with AvD: +42 + d100 roll: +19 = +206
  ... and hits for 21 points of damage!
  Torn muscle in your left leg!

>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at an Ithzir janissary!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +247 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +48 = +252
  ... and hit for 60 points of damage!
  Upward slash gouges the Ithzir janissary's cheek!
  Left eye lost!
  Pity.
Your gornar falchion fades some.

 ** Your gornar falchion releases a blast of vibrating energy! **

  ... 25 points of damage!
  Strong blow to right arm breaks it!
  The janissary's vultite bulawa falls to the ground.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at an Ithzir janissary!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +212 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +59 = +298
  ... and hit for 77 points of damage!
  Gruesome slash to the Ithzir janissary's throat!
  That stings... for about a second.
The Ithzir janissary clutches at her wounds as she falls, the life fading from her eyes.

 ** Necrotic energy from your gornar falchion overflows into you! **

  You feel healed!
Your gornar falchion fades some.
>at
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a greater construct!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +299 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +57 = +203
  ... and hit for 29 points of damage!
  Banged the greater construct's right shin.
  That'll raise a good welt.
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct flickers momentarily.
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
A greater construct swings a massive arm at you!
  AS: +443 vs DS: +315 with AvD: +50 + d100 roll: +57 = +235
  ... and hits for 33 points of damage!
  Blow to your back cracks several vertebrae.
>
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a greater construct!
  AS: +411 vs DS: +288 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +86 = +233
  ... and hit for 35 points of damage!
  Banged the greater construct's right shin.
  That'll raise a good welt.
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct flickers momentarily.
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>
...wait 1 seconds.
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a greater construct!
  AS: +411 vs DS: +254 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +17 = +198
  ... and hit for 23 points of damage!
  Slash to the greater construct's right leg hits high!
  Kinda makes your knees weak, huh?
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct flickers momentarily.

 ** Necrotic energy from your gornar falchion overflows into you! **

  You feel healed!
Your gornar falchion fades some.

 ** Your gornar falchion releases a blast of vibrating energy! **

  ... 10 points of damage!
  Brushing blow to right hand.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a greater construct!
  AS: +411 vs DS: +254 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +81 = +262
  ... and hit for 40 points of damage!
  Banged the greater construct's right shin.
  That'll raise a good welt.
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct flickers momentarily.
Your gornar falchion fades some.
>ta
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>ta
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a greater construct!
  AS: +411 vs DS: +242 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +18 = +211
  ... and hit for 26 points of damage!
  Slash to the greater construct's left leg hits high!
  Kinda makes your knees weak, huh?
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct flickers momentarily.
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>

Crackling and popping comes from a greater construct as the golden aura surrounding it flares higher.

>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a greater construct!
  AS: +411 vs DS: +242 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +40 = +233
  ... and hit for 35 points of damage!
  Downward slash across the greater construct's right thigh!
>at
  Might not scar.
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct flickers momentarily.
Your gornar falchion fades some.

 ** Your gornar falchion releases a blast of vibrating energy! **

  ... 10 points of damage!
  Brushing blow to right hand.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a greater construct!
>at
  AS: +411 vs DS: +242 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +55 = +248
  ... and hit for 37 points of damage!
  Smash to the kneecap.
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct fades and goes out.
Your gornar falchion stops glowing.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
An Ithzir scout makes no sound as she slips in.
>
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a greater construct!
  AS: +389 vs DS: +242 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +3 = +174
  ... and hit for 24 points of damage!
  Banged the greater construct's left shin.
  That'll raise a good welt.

 ** Your gornar falchion releases a blast of vibrating energy! **

  ... 10 points of damage!
  Light blow to left leg.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
[902]>incant 902
...wait 1 seconds.
>stance d
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
A greater construct raises its massive foot and attempts to smash you!
  AS: +338 vs DS: +483 with AvD: +45 + d100 roll: +84 = -16
  A clean miss.
>
[902]>incant 902
You trace a series of glowing runes while chanting the phrase for Minor Elemental Edge...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture.
A bright glow forms around your gornar falchion for a moment, then seems to seep into the weapon, giving it an inner glow.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)
>
An Ithzir scout drops her steel broadsword and snatches up a red vultite bulawa etched with sylized flames!
An Ithzir scout swings a red vultite bulawa at a greater construct!
  AS: +432 vs DS: +315 with AvD: +18 + d100 roll: +18 = +153
  ... and hits for 9 points of damage!
  Glancing blow to the greater construct's right leg!
>stance off
You are now in an offensive stance.
>stomp
As you stomp your foot sharply, the dirt shakes wildly!
>at
The ground begins to shake violently, making it hard to stand.
An Ithzir scout loses her balance and falls over.
>
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a greater construct!
  AS: +411 vs DS: +315 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +17 = +137
  ... and hit for 7 points of damage!
  Quick feint to the greater construct's right foot.
  Little extra damage.

 ** Necrotic energy from your gornar falchion overflows into you! **

>at
  You feel energized!
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a greater construct!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +315 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +28 = +158
  ... and hit for 21 points of damage!
  Feint to the left goes astray as the greater construct dodges!
>at
  You scratch my back...
You feel the unnatural surge of necrotic power wane away.
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a greater construct!
  AS: +411 vs DS: +315 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +83 = +203
  ... and hit for 29 points of damage!
  Banged the greater construct's right shin.
  That'll raise a good welt.
Your gornar falchion fades some.

 ** Your gornar falchion releases a blast of vibrating energy! **

  ... 20 points of damage!
  Good blow to chest!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>
An Ithzir scout grunts as she rises to her feet.
>
The glowing specks of energy surrounding you intensify!
A greater construct raises its massive foot and attempts to smash you!
  AS: +380 vs DS: +335 with AvD: +45 + d100 roll: +5 = +95
  A clean miss.
>
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a greater construct!
>at
  AS: +411 vs DS: +261 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +66 = +240
  ... and hit for 36 points of damage!
  Smash to the kneecap.

 ** Necrotic energy from your gornar falchion overflows into you! **

  You feel healed!
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a greater construct!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +248 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +86 = +283
  ... and hit for 44 points of damage!
  Downward slash across the greater construct's left thigh!
  Gouges bone!
  A deep basso rumbling can be heard as a greater construct falls over and grasps its mangled left leg!

Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a greater construct!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +148 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +69 = +366
  ... and hit for 59 points of damage!
  Powerful slash just cracks the greater construct's weapon arm!
>at
Cracks begin to snake across the greater construct's skin as its movement completely ceases.
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at an Ithzir scout!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +330 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +77 = +205
  ... and hit for 43 points of damage!
  Respectable shot to the back.
  The Ithzir scout is stunned!
Your gornar falchion fades some.

 ** Your gornar falchion releases a blast of vibrating energy! **

  ... 35 points of damage!
  Hard blow to chest breaking ribs!
  Hard to breathe!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at an Ithzir scout!
>at
  AS: +421 vs DS: +301 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +24 = +181
  ... and hit for 41 points of damage!
  Diagonal slash leaves a bloody trail across the Ithzir scout's torso.

 ** Necrotic energy from your gornar falchion overflows into you! **

  You feel healed!
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>
...wait 1 seconds.

>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at an Ithzir scout!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +301 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +22 = +179
  ... and hit for 36 points of damage!
  Blow to chest causes the Ithzir scout's heart to skip a beat.
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>ta
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at an Ithzir scout!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +292 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +89 = +255
  ... and hit for 71 points of damage!
>at
  The Ithzir scout twists away but is caught with a hard slash!
  Back is broken!
  The Ithzir scout is knocked to the ground!

 ** Necrotic energy from your gornar falchion overflows into you! **

  You feel healed!
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at an Ithzir scout!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +252 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +81 = +287
  ... and hit for 70 points of damage!
  Quick, powerful slash to the Ithzir scout's left knee!
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at an Ithzir scout!
  AS: +421 vs DS: +235 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +58 = +281
  ... and hit for 73 points of damage!
  Hard blow to the Ithzir scout's ear!
  Deep gash and a terrible headache!
The Ithzir scout vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
...wait 1 seconds.
>at
...wait 1 seconds.
...wait 1 seconds.
>
You currently have no valid target.  You will need to specify one.
>stance d
You are now in a defensive stance.
>laugh
You laugh out loud!
>loot
You search the Ithzir scout.
She had a red vultite bulawa etched with sylized flames.
You discard the scout's remaining useless equipment.
She didn't carry any silver.
She had nothing else of value.
An Ithzir scout's body shimmers slightly, then fades from view like a dissipating phantom.
>loot
>loot
You search the Ithzir janissary.
She had a polished steel shield.
You discard the janissary's remaining useless equipment.
She had 315 silvers on her.
You gather the remaining 315 coins.
She had a star ruby on her!
She had nothing else of value.
An Ithzir janissary's body shimmers slightly, then fades from view like a dissipating phantom.
>
You search the greater construct.
It didn't carry any silver.
It left a crystal core behind.
It had nothing else of value.
A greater construct's body crumbles until only a pile of rubble marks its remains.
>
You suddenly feel less light-footed.
>
[902]>exp
>
          Level: 100                        Fame: 8,434,853
    Experience: 8,247,500                  Deeds: 1
  Ascension Exp: 13,518,639        Recent Deaths: 0
      Total Exp: 21,766,139        Death's Sting: None
  Long-Term Exp: 20,325
 Exp to next TP: 2,500            Exp to next ATP: 31,361
      PTPs/MTPs: 0/655                      ATPs: 0

Your mind is fresh and clear.

You feel a strange sense of serenity and find that you are able to reflect on recent events with uncommon clarity and understanding.
>
[902]>incant 506
You recite a series of mystical phrases while raising your hands, invoking Celerity...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture.
[Spell Hindrance for some chain mail is 45% with current Armor Use skill, d100= 28]
Your armor prevents the spell from working correctly.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

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Maybe a 45% hindrance won't be a big issue for him. Out of the 10 minutes or so I hunted him, I only came across 5 or 6 spell failures out of all the casts. Here's hoping an Elite Ascension skill reduces spell hindrance and it might just be viable to keep him in chain mail.

Still not sure why you wouldn't just do the +6 ranks in wizard, so you can have 919 going full time. Also, 2x in EMC so you can have 515 going and then those spell failures won't be so dramatic.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Maerit

Still not sure why you wouldn't just do the +6 ranks in wizard, so you can have 919 going full time. Also, 2x in EMC so you can have 515 going and then those spell failures won't be so dramatic.

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Where's the fun in that?

I'm curious to see what kind of beast I can build that no one else has done before....well, no one else coocoo enough has tried. The release of Ascension just helps fuel the possibility of a whole different form of warmage..... Redux Mage!

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Originally Posted by drumpel

I decided to run out quick to OTF and see what came of things. I don't know what his redux is at (;redux doesn't give a proper return on the test server), but he took a couple of decent shots with only receiving minors..

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Redux factor without spells is approximately .305. Your character's spell penalty (33 spells at level 100) is ~ 19%. Therefore, with the spell penalty the redux factor is ~ .247 (.305 * .81)

Total redux points: 2734

Damage Calculations

1. A greater construct swings a massive arm at you!
AS: +443 vs DS: +322 with AvD: +50 + d100 roll: +49 = +220
... and hits for 26 points of damage!
Neck vertebrae snap.

The massive arm is a flamberge with DF .325
Redux factor: .247 (1 - .247 = .753)
Reduce weapon damage factor: .245 ceil (.753 * .325)
Success margin: 120
Reduced raw damage: 29 (120 * .245)
Crit damage: 5
Total reduced calculated damage: 26 [.ceil(.753 * 34)
Calculated damage 26 = actual damage 26

2. An Ithzir janissary swings a red vultite bulawa at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
AS: +411 vs DS: +266 with AvD: +42 + d100 roll: +19 = +206
... and hits for 21 points of damage!
Torn muscle in your left leg!

Redux Factor: .247 (.753)
Mace DF: .250
Mace DFr: .189 (.753 * .250)
Success margin: 106
Reduced raw dmg: 20 (106 * .189)
Crit dmg: 7
Calculated dmg: 21 ceil(.753 * 27) = actual damage 21

3. A greater construct swings a massive arm at you!
AS: +443 vs DS: +315 with AvD: +50 + d100 roll: +57 = +235
... and hits for 33 points of damage!
Blow to your back cracks several vertebrae.

Redux factor: .247
Flamberge DF: .325
Flamberge DFr: .245 ceil(.753 * .325)
Success margin: 135
Reduced raw damage: 33 (135 * .245)
Crit dmg: 10
Calculated dmg: 33 ceil(.753 * 43) = actual dmg 33

Mark

The skill shortfall penalty to spell hindrance is .05 per skill point. Add this penalty to 1 and then multiply the base hindrance by this result.

Example: 16% base hindrance

Skill required to reduce a spell's hindrance to 16% is: ((16 * 20) -10)) = 310 skill (210) ranks

At 300 (200 ranks) skill the multiplier is 1 + (.05 * 10) = 1.5 where 10 is the skill shortfall. This yields a spell hindrance penalty of 16% * 1.5 = 24%
At 290 (190 ranks) skill the multiplier is 1 + (.05 * 20) = 2 where 20 is the skill shortfall. This yields a spell hindrance penalty of 16% * 2 + 32%
At 280 (180 ranks) skill the multiplier is 1 + (.05 * 30) = 2.5 where 30 is the skill shortfall. This yields a spell hindrance penalty of 16% * 2.5 = 40%

This .05 per skill shortfall penalty applies across the board as do the multipliers. Whenever you are 10 skill short of the base hindrance skill requirement the effective spell hindrance will be 1.5 * base hindrance. The hindrance penalty with a 20 skill shortfall is (base hindrance * 2) etc.

Example: 10% base hindrance

Skill required to achieve 10% base hindrance: ((10 * 20) - 10)) = 190 (90 ranks)

At 180 skill the hindrance penalty will be 1.5 * 10 = 15%
At 170 skill the hindrance penalty will be 2 * 10 = 20%
etc.

This demonstrates how a relatively small skill shortfall can result in a very substantial hindrance penalty. Of course there are maximum hindrance caps for each armor.

This is the formula posted on the wiki: Total Hindrance = Base Hindrance * (1 + (Required Bonus - Current Bonus) / 20).

Mark

Leveled! Takes longer now that I'm shifting 55% of my exp to ascension exp.

[redux: Level: 56]
[redux: Primary skills: 58]
[redux: Secondary skils: 175]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 58]
[redux: Redux points: 1454.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]
[redux: Your Redux estimates to be 8.23%.]


Just one more ATP to put into Armor Use and I can start wearing my studded leather. After that I'll drop the next 5 ATPs into OHE and then 4 into STR and then 4 into CM - this will boost my AS by +9!

Watch it bitches! Reduxmage is on the loose!

Stupid boar got lucky with that open roll on his charge, but you can't keep me down!

Code:

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A massive black boar grunts as he scrambles to his feet!
>
[SMR result: 210 (Open d100: 184)]
A massive black boar charges suddenly, and you make a feeble attempt to avoid his vicious tusks.  Stars explode before your eyes as the boar hammers into you, slamming you to the ground!

  ... 15 points of damage!
  Beautiful head shot neatly slices off your ear!
  You are stunned for 5 rounds!
Roundtime: 12 sec.
>stomp
You are still stunned.
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A spindly black forest ogre forms mystical patterns with his clawed hands and mutters some unintelligible sounds as his eyes flash with crimson fire.
>
>stance d
You are still stunned.

>
A spindly black forest ogre forms mystical patterns with his clawed hands and mutters some unintelligible sounds as his eyes flash with crimson fire.
>
>
[SMR result: 105 (Open d100: 14, Bonus: 66)]
A massive black boar charges suddenly, his vicious tusks catching you with a glancing blow!

The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  ... 1 point of damage!
  Minor strike under the right eye, that was close!
Roundtime: 6 sec.
>
A spindly black forest ogre waves his elongated, clawed hands at you!
A spindly black forest ogre hurls a hissing stream of acid at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +391 vs DS: +334 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +96 = +186
  ... and hits for 26 points of damage!
  Bit of acid strikes your calf leaving bright red spots.
[SMR result: 183 (Open d100: 32, Bonus: 68)]
A rippling wave of energy emanates from a spindly black forest ogre and swathes you before dissipating!
You feel your mind and body weakening!
  Some of the acid sticks to you and continues to bubble away!
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A spindly black forest ogre swings a closed fist at you!
  AS: +314 vs DS: +337 with AvD: +8 + d100 roll: +77 = +62
  A clean miss.
>
A massive black boar charges at you with its tusk!
You stumble dazedly, somehow managing to block the attack with your gornar falchion!
>
A massive black boar charges at you with its tusk!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +325 vs DS: +253 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +60 = +163
  ... and hits for 20 points of damage!
  Minor puncture to the chest.
>st
You are still stunned.
>
Acid continues to eat away at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  ... 10 points of damage!
  Acid gets on the left leg raising some large blisters.
>st
You are still stunned.
>st
A spindly black forest ogre forms mystical patterns with his clawed hands and mutters some unintelligible sounds as his eyes flash with crimson fire.
>
You are still stunned.
>st
You are still stunned.
>st
You are still stunned.
>st
You are still stunned.
>
Acid continues to eat away at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  ... 5 points of damage!
  Bit of acid strikes your calf leaving bright red spots.
The acid quickly bubbles away and disappears.
>st
You are still stunned.
>st
You are still stunned.
>st
You are still stunned.
>st
You are still stunned.
>st
You are still stunned.
>st
A spindly black forest ogre shifts around, looking indecisive.
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A massive black boar charges at a spindly black forest ogre with its tusk!
  AS: +295 vs DS: +279 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +53 = +109
  ... and hits for 3 points of damage!
  Glancing blow to the black forest ogre's right leg!
>
You stand back up.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

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I love having free 5 points of crit padding from spell 520, plus an extra 10 points of crit padding when stunned, plus nearly 9% redux. Can't keep this dwarven reduxmage down!

I've officially moved into my Studded Leather (yeah!). Got some good enhancive properties on it to boost my OHE and PF along with 5 CER of damage padding.

7x/T2/SWCW falchion with all my enhancives and COL active gets his AS to 357 so he doesn't have any issues hitting anything he hunts.

With all his enhancives on, if they do indeed help his redux, he's sitting at:

>;redux
--- Lich: redux active.
[redux: Level: 56]
[redux: Primary skills: 62]
[redux: Secondary skils: 191]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 99]
[redux: Redux points: 1681.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]
[redux: Your Redux estimates to be 13.39%.]

He's up hunting right now, out kicking the crap out of vipers, ogres and boars in the blighted forest.

Only thing I need to finally decide as I slowly creep closer to capped range (which is a ways off) is if I bite the bullet and accept the fact that he'll probably need to be wearing chain mail and suffer through the 40%+ spell hindrance or work on making a quality set of brig and have a much nicer hindrance of 12% once he can get his AU ranks to 130.

Leveled again!

Takes a bit to level with a 45/55 experience split between standard exp and ascension exp, but it's been nice earning ATPs to help get my AU ranks up sooner to get into studded leather and now to help boost my PF to increase my redux faster.

[redux: Level: 57]
[redux: Primary skills: 60]
[redux: Secondary skils: 180]
[redux: Tertiary skills: 59]
[redux: Redux points: 1497.0]
[redux: Spell ranks: 33]
[redux: Your Redux estimates to be 9.33%.]

With my new level and the 1 ATP I just earned that I put into Physical Fitness, without any enhancives I'm close to 10% redux.

Only irritation I really run into right now is the stupid ass black ogres that dispel. I might change over from casting Earth 520 to Water 520 to see if that helps much....the spells that always seem to get dispelled are 913, 911 or 401. While 913 and 911 only cost me mana to recast, if my elementals get dispelled I have to go back in and find someone to recast them for me. I guess that's the plight of not knowing any 400s as for this reduxmage.

Is the 40 percent fail including the paladin armor skill to reduce it?

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Originally Posted by Ardwen

Is the 40 percent fail including the paladin armor skill to reduce it?

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No, never tried it. No paladin on the test server for me to utilize and I've never tried it in the normal instance of the game....

Then again, I suppose I could utilize the test server and roll up a couple of characters - one being a paladin and just make use of LEVELUP verb to reach the necessary skills/ranks and test things out.....that just sounds like extra work and I'm too lazy right now to try it.

Level 65 or so Paladin will allow you to get enough ranks in Armor to have 5 ranks of Armor Fluidity, which will reduce the spell failure by 50%, truncated.

Wow....it was November when I last leveled my reduxmage.

Health verb shows this as my Redux (no enhancives) as of level 57:
>health
You seem to be in one piece.

Maximum Health Points: 174
Remaining Health Points: 174

Maximum Spirit Points: 9
Remaining Spirit Points: 7

Maximum Stamina Points: 111
Remaining Stamina Points: 111

Physical Damage Reduction: 10.31%



Here's level 58.
>health
You seem to be in one piece.

Maximum Health Points: 174
Remaining Health Points: 174

Maximum Spirit Points: 9
Remaining Spirit Points: 8

Maximum Stamina Points: 112
Remaining Stamina Points: 112

Physical Damage Reduction: 10.73%



Here he is with all his enhancives:
>health
You seem to be in one piece.

Maximum Health Points: 192
Remaining Health Points: 174
You are feeling pretty good.

Maximum Spirit Points: 9
Remaining Spirit Points: 8

Maximum Stamina Points: 120
Remaining Stamina Points: 112

Physical Damage Reduction: 14.04%


His studded leather has 4 CER of damage padding and 2 CER of crit padding. He's still running around the blighted forest from time to time and holds his own well.

Ascension points so far are applied here and his current exp is split 45/55 (regular and ascension):
Skill name ----- Mnemonic ----- Ranks
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Armor Use ----- armoruse ----- 5
Edged Weapons ----- edgedweapons ----- 1
Physical Fitness ----- physicalfitness ----- 2

Right now the only real downside for him is the DS pushdown when there are multiple creatures in the room. His offensive DS of 310 or so drops rapidly into the mid 200s when 3 or 4 creatures are in the room. I might need to contemplate getting his MOC up to at least 10 ranks to help negate some of that FoF....but that sounds like a lot of work for a mage with the cost being 15/10 for TPs or spending a total of 15 ATPs to get MOC up to 10 ranks (that's 750,000 ascension exp).

I'm still pissed with the whole adjustment to SMRv2 defense getting adjusted down. He went from only having about a 15% chance (outside of an open roll) for a viper to hit him with spit to having a nearly 40% chance to getting hit with viper spit. I used to hunt the vipers as part of the hunting routine - go through, kill about a dozen creatures to fill his mind and go rest. Now I avoid 1/3 of the creatures and it can take a bit longer to finish a hunt. The viper spit itself isn't the main issue, it's when a few of them spit and hit him at the same time the poison stacks hard and it also reduces your AS/DS for an awful long duration of 1-2 minutes. It pretty much ends a hunt. After a few hunts like this it just deters me from playing him and he sits unplayed for a week or two until I want to try again....then only to be reminded after a few hunts of the SMRv2 low defense changes that make viper spit overly irritating so I pack him away for a week or two and repeat things again and again. I guess that's the real reason why I haven't been playing him much.

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Originally Posted by drumpel

Wow....it was November when I last leveled my reduxmage.

Health verb shows this as my Redux (no enhancives) as of level 57:
>health
You seem to be in one piece.

Maximum Health Points: 174
Remaining Health Points: 174

Maximum Spirit Points: 9
Remaining Spirit Points: 7

Maximum Stamina Points: 111
Remaining Stamina Points: 111

Physical Damage Reduction: 10.31%



Here's level 58.
>health
You seem to be in one piece.

Maximum Health Points: 174
Remaining Health Points: 174

Maximum Spirit Points: 9
Remaining Spirit Points: 8

Maximum Stamina Points: 112
Remaining Stamina Points: 112

Physical Damage Reduction: 10.73%



Here he is with all his enhancives:
>health
You seem to be in one piece.

Maximum Health Points: 192
Remaining Health Points: 174
You are feeling pretty good.

Maximum Spirit Points: 9
Remaining Spirit Points: 8

Maximum Stamina Points: 120
Remaining Stamina Points: 112

Physical Damage Reduction: 14.04%


His studded leather has 4 CER of damage padding and 2 CER of crit padding. He's still running around the blighted forest from time to time and holds his own well.

Ascension points so far are applied here and his current exp is split 45/55 (regular and ascension):
Skill name ----- Mnemonic ----- Ranks
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Armor Use ----- armoruse ----- 5
Edged Weapons ----- edgedweapons ----- 1
Physical Fitness ----- physicalfitness ----- 2

Right now the only real downside for him is the DS pushdown when there are multiple creatures in the room. His offensive DS of 310 or so drops rapidly into the mid 200s when 3 or 4 creatures are in the room. I might need to contemplate getting his MOC up to at least 10 ranks to help negate some of that FoF....but that sounds like a lot of work for a mage with the cost being 15/10 for TPs or spending a total of 15 ATPs to get MOC up to 10 ranks (that's 750,000 ascension exp).

I'm still pissed with the whole adjustment to SMRv2 defense getting adjusted down. He went from only having about a 15% chance (outside of an open roll) for a viper to hit him with spit to having a nearly 40% chance to getting hit with viper spit. I used to hunt the vipers as part of the hunting routine - go through, kill about a dozen creatures to fill his mind and go rest. Now I avoid 1/3 of the creatures and it can take a bit longer to finish a hunt. The viper spit itself isn't the main issue, it's when a few of them spit and hit him at the same time the poison stacks hard and it also reduces your AS/DS for an awful long duration of 1-2 minutes. It pretty much ends a hunt. After a few hunts like this it just deters me from playing him and he sits unplayed for a week or two until I want to try again....then only to be reminded after a few hunts of the SMRv2 low defense changes that make viper spit overly irritating so I pack him away for a week or two and repeat things again and again. I guess that's the real reason why I haven't been playing him much.

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You may want to try Wind Wraiths if you can get a bless. I feel like you may be able to mow them through

I don't know about that, with boss/pack mobs you end up with 4-5 wraiths in a room pretty often and that will be a problem for their DS without MOC.

I was bored, decided to let the critters knock me around.

Total of 7 CER crit padding and 4 CER damage padding. Scale armor - studded leather.

With all my skills and wearing all my enhancives, here's my redux:
Physical Damage Reduction: 14.04%


Decided to laydown and see how things would transpire. I do heal up between each round of hits.

Code:

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A black forest ogre raises his heel high, attempting to footstomp you!
[SMR result: 115 (Open d100: 15, Bonus: 25)]
A black forest ogre brings his foot down solidly on you!
You are distracted by the pain!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
You no longer feel painfully distracted.
>
A black forest ogre swings a rust-covered dhara at you!
  AS: +324 vs DS: +212 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +67 = +210
  ... and hits for 19 points of damage!
  Blow raises a welt on your right arm.
>
A black forest ogre swings a rust-covered dhara at you!
  AS: +324 vs DS: +211 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +64 = +208
  ... and hits for 14 points of damage!
  Torn muscle in your left leg!
>
A black forest ogre swings a rust-covered dhara at you!
  AS: +324 vs DS: +209 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +1 = +147
  ... and hits for 8 points of damage!
  Blow raises a welt on your left arm.
>yawn
You yawn.
>
A black forest ogre's eyes take on a red tinge and foam begins to drip from his mouth.

A black forest ogre swings a rust-covered dhara at you!
  AS: +374 vs DS: +208 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +41 = +238
  ... and hits for 25 points of damage!
  Blow raises a welt on your left arm.

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Yawn. The ogre is kind of a wimp, so I went and found a boar to try and maul me.

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A massive black boar tries to bite you!
  AS: +340 vs DS: +211 with AvD: +26 + d100 roll: +82 = +237
  ... and hits for 55 points of damage!
  You are knocked sideways several feet by a blow to the back.
  You are stunned for 3 rounds!
>
A massive black boar charges at you with its tusk!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +340 vs DS: +207 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +48 = +210
  ... and hits for 28 points of damage!
  Solid blow gouges a chunk out of your right leg.
>st
You stand back up.
>
A massive black boar charges at you with its tusk!
  AS: +340 vs DS: +256 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +30 = +143
  ... and hits for 7 points of damage!
  A nice bruise on your neck!

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A massive black boar charges at you with its tusk!
  AS: +340 vs DS: +212 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +36 = +193
  ... and hits for 21 points of damage!
  Minor puncture to the abdomen.
>
A massive black boar tries to bite you!
  AS: +340 vs DS: +212 with AvD: +26 + d100 roll: +93 = +247
  ... and hits for 49 points of damage!
  Hard slash to belly severs a few nerve endings.
  You are stunned for 3 rounds!
>
A massive black boar charges at you with its tusk!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +340 vs DS: +208 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +76 = +237
  ... and hits for 41 points of damage!
  Loud *crack* as your sternum breaks!
>laugh
You laugh out loud!
>stance d
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
A massive black boar charges at you!
  AS: +350 vs DS: +345 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +41 = +83
  A clean miss.

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Got the gumption to move up a level on this guy, now he's at level 59:

You have an old battle scar across your back.

Maximum Health Points: 174
Remaining Health Points: 174

Maximum Spirit Points: 9
Remaining Spirit Points: 9

Maximum Stamina Points: 112
Remaining Stamina Points: 112

Physical Damage Reduction: 11.20%

Takes a bit of time with just a hunt or two here and there with my exp being split 41/59% (normal/ASC, which will now be 40/60 since I hit level 60).

I dropped my last two ATPs into physical fitness to help bolster my redux. Here's where he sits without any of his enhancives being used.

>health
You have an old battle scar across your abdominal area.

Maximum Health Points: 175
Remaining Health Points: 175

Maximum Spirit Points: 9
Remaining Spirit Points: 9

Maximum Stamina Points: 115
Remaining Stamina Points: 115

Physical Damage Reduction: 12.14%

I use 1202 and with 140 transformation lore (postcap) can get AsG 13. If we are talking about reducing the damage based on training this could be an alternative way of training "redux" as a wizard. Using robes as a metric and a claw attack returns a 22% reduction in DF.

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Originally Posted by Red

I use 1202 and with 140 transformation lore (postcap) can get AsG 13. If we are talking about reducing the damage based on training this could be an alternative way of training "redux" as a wizard. Using robes as a metric and a claw attack returns a 22% reduction in DF.

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To my knowledge, 1202 doesn't help with CvA, though (if this isn't the case, please correct me). I thought about this route since I have an (I forget what they're called, not a mage rechargeable but an item that can hold a lot of charges) that has 1202 and can take up to 800some charges before it goes bad. But after reading up on 1202, you only gain the benefit of AsG and not CvA.

My reduxmage doesn't have the benefit of 425 or 430, and never will, so his DS will be a bit low - but that can be overcome without much of an issue. His TD on the other hand is going to be low and that's where the lower CvA from having a higher AsG comes in handy. He's in enchanted studded leather and that's got a CvA of 3, plus with having a T2 ensorcell on it (might be 3, I can't remember without checking) and a shield that also has a T2 (could be T3), his CvA is -7.

Unfortunately he needs the help of a lower CvA to help offset the loss of TD from spell 430.

I'll eventually get him into brig and possibly chainmail (this is a post cap goal) as time goes on, but it also depends on what the second and third levels of ascension bring to the table.

Fair point. The goal is to mitigate the weakness inherent in the class, which in the case of a wizard (pure) is the glass cannon effect. This is a lot easier done today than it was years ago as the gear floor has come up so much. Average wizard is now wearing at 5 CER crit padded armor with Mage armor and has HCP at minimum. Extra padding through skill (520) and WPS are also easily obtained.

I guess the bottom line is a wizard weakness is not in their TD or honestly getting hit, it is surviving getting hit which there are ways to avoid. In my opinion the 1202 route is the best one for a wizard as it has a lot of PROs and the biggest CON is finding a sustainable way to cast the spell.

Reduxmage survives a brutal bandit attack!

(honestly, it wouldn't have turned out so bad had I noticed I got swept here right at the beginning. My AS was low, but thought it was attributed to the fucking black crystal these bastards love to throw at me. Text started flying by so I didn't notice what spells were actually removed.)

Code:

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Suddenly, a tiny shard of jet black crystal flies from the shadows toward you!
[SMR result: 133 (Open d100: 91)]
The crystal shatters against your body and releases a pulse of anti-magic!
Your SIGN OF STRIKING is no longer effective.
You notice your blood flow go back to normal.
The dim aura fades from around you.
>stomp
As you stomp your foot sharply, the dirt shakes wildly!
The ground begins to shake violently, making it hard to stand.
>
A human brigand leaps out of his hiding place!
A human brigand crouches and sweeps a leg at you!
[SMR result: 124 (Open d100: 64)]
You fall to the ground! A human brigand deftly regains his footing.
You are struck by an acute sense of vulnerability.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
A human brigand slips into hiding.
>sea
You don't find anything of interest here, but you have the funny feeling you are being watched.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
A human brigand leaps out of his hiding place!
A human brigand swings a military pick at you!
  AS: +326 vs DS: +298 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +68 = +132
  ... and hits for 14 points of damage!
  Blow to your back cracks several vertebrae.
>'ass
You say, "Ass."
>
A half-elven mugger leaps out of his hiding place!
A half-elven mugger swings a mace at you!
  AS: +334 vs DS: +269 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +14 = +110
  ... and hits for 1 point of damage!
  A feeble blow to your right arm!
>stance o
You are now in an offensive stance.
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a human brigand!
  AS: +307 vs DS: +230 with AvD: +41 + d100 roll: +99 = +217
  ... and hit for 48 points of damage!
  Deep, bloody slash to the human brigand's right thigh!
  The human brigand is knocked to the ground!
  The human brigand is stunned!
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
You suddenly feel less light-footed.
>
[902]>exp
>
          Level: 60                          Fame: 10,108,863
    Experience: 3,495,361              Field Exp: 669/970
  Ascension Exp: 479,436            Recent Deaths: 0
      Total Exp: 3,974,797          Death's Sting: None
  Long-Term Exp: 1,080                      Deeds: 0
  Exp until lvl: 60,139          Exp to next ATP: 20,564
      PTPs/MTPs: 0/59                        ATPs: 0

Your mind is becoming numbed.

You feel a strange sense of serenity and find that you are able to reflect on recent events with uncommon clarity and understanding.
>
[902]>incant 506
You recite a series of mystical phrases while raising your hands, invoking Celerity...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture.
You suddenly start moving light-footedly.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
[ Celerity: +0:01:00, 0:00:59 remaining. ]
>
A half-elven mugger swings a mace at you!
  AS: +334 vs DS: +254 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +42 = +153
  ... and hits for 5 points of damage!
  Cut over your left eye.
>at mug
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a half-elven mugger!
  AS: +307 vs DS: +254 with AvD: +42 + d100 roll: +36 = +131
  ... and hit for 18 points of damage!
  Banged the half-elven mugger's right shin.
  That'll raise a good welt.

 ** Necrotic energy from your gornar falchion overflows into you! **

  You feel healed!
Your gornar falchion fades some.

 ** Your gornar falchion releases a blast of vibrating energy! **
  ... 1 point of damage!
  Stubs left hand finger.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>at
You swing a perfect gornar falchion at a half-elven mugger!
  AS: +307 vs DS: +247 with AvD: +42 + d100 roll: +16 = +118
  ... and hit for 5 points of damage!
  Flashy swing!
  Too bad it only bopped the half-elven mugger's nose.
Your gornar falchion fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
A half-elven mugger kicks at your groin!
[SMR result: 132 (Open d100: 72, Bonus: 4)]
Your size considerably hinders your defense!
A half-elven mugger's kick connects!  Waves of pain instantly shoot through your body.  Your eyes snap wide open.
  ... 13 points of damage!
Your thoughts scatter as you struggle to prepare any magical incantations.
Roundtime: 7 sec.
>stomp
...wait 7 seconds.
>
A gnomish brigand leaps out of his hiding place!
A gnomish brigand swings a morning star at you!
  AS: +365 vs DS: +264 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +74 = +205
  ... and hits for 24 points of damage!
  Beautiful head shot neatly slices off your ear!
  You are stunned for 5 rounds!
>
A half-elven mugger swings a mace at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +334 vs DS: +237 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +51 = +179
  ... and hits for 10 points of damage!
  Whiplash!

>
A half-elven mugger swings a mace at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +334 vs DS: +237 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +40 = +168
  ... and hits for 8 points of damage!
  Whiplash!
>
A gnomish brigand pulls out a white crystal and rubs it!
A gnomish brigand looks considerably more imposing.
>
A half-elven mugger swings a mace at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +334 vs DS: +237 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +76 = +204
  ... and hits for 21 points of damage!
  Hearty smack to the head.
>
A human brigand stands up with a grunt.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>
A gnomish brigand swings a morning star at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +309 vs DS: +237 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +46 = +148
  ... and hits for 7 points of damage!
  Jarring blow to your back.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>
A half-elven mugger pulls out a small statue and rubs it!
A faint silvery glow surrounds a half-elven mugger.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
A human brigand swings a military pick at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +326 vs DS: +229 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +87 = +220
  ... and hits for 49 points of damage!
  Flesh ripped from your back, muscles exposed.
>
You are still stunned.
>
Your mind clears and your incantations are once again within easy grasp.
>stance def
The sense of vulnerability fades.
>
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
A half-elven mugger swings a mace at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +334 vs DS: +227 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +44 = +182
  ... and hits for 13 points of damage!
  Blow leaves an imprint on your chest!
>
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>
A human brigand pulls out a small statue and rubs it!
A faint silvery glow surrounds a human brigand.
>
A gnomish brigand swings a morning star at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +309 vs DS: +223 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +2 = +118
  ... and hits for 1 point of damage!
  Thumped your chest.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
A half-elven mugger swings a mace at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +334 vs DS: +223 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +33 = +175
  ... and hits for 12 points of damage!
  Blow leaves an imprint on your chest!
>
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
A human brigand slips into hiding.
>
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>
You are still stunned.
>stance def
A gnomish brigand swings a morning star at you!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
  AS: +309 vs DS: +232 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +14 = +121
  ... and hits for 2 points of damage!
  Strikes a fingernail.
  Bet you'll lose it now.
>
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
>stance def
>
You are still stunned.
>
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
You are still stunned.
>stance def
>stance def
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
You are now in a defensive stance.
>stance def
A human brigand stumbles out of his hiding place.
A human brigand swings a military pick at you!
  AS: +326 vs DS: +239 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +32 = +155
  ... and hits for 19 points of damage!
  Strike pierces upper arm!
>stance def
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
You are now in a defensive stance.
>st
You stand back up.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
>n
...wait 1 seconds.
>n
...wait 1 seconds.
>n
...wait 1 seconds.
>
A half-elven mugger swings a mace at you!
Amazingly, you manage to block the attack with your shield!

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I got away with 2 health. Tossed up sign of staunching as I ran from the area to get healed and came back to kill the bastards.

Still at it, level 61 now.

>health
You seem to be in one piece.

Maximum Health Points: 175
Remaining Health Points: 175

Maximum Spirit Points: 9
Remaining Spirit Points: 9

Maximum Stamina Points: 116
Remaining Stamina Points: 116

Physical Damage Reduction: 12.82%

Holy hell. It's been a long time since I played this guy....damn, looking at my last pot it was almost a full year since I leveled!

Moved him from level 61 to 62!

>heal
You seem to be in one piece.

Maximum Health Points: 175
Remaining Health Points: 175

Maximum Spirit Points: 9
Remaining Spirit Points: 9

Maximum Stamina Points: 116
Remaining Stamina Points: 116

Physical Damage Reduction: 13.23%

The DR Arena is stupid easy with this guy. I don't know why I didn't think of it last year when I ran the arena, but even without any Ambush training he can aim pretty good being fully 1x in CM and using his falchion. I just aim for the head (can't hit 3 or 4 types of creatures as they're too tall for this dwarf), so I take a leg out and then go for the head.

For the more annoying champions that have high DS and since they can't be stunned, I keep them stuck in RT with feint. STOMP with 909, CMAN FEINT, swing at the head a few times (maybe I'll get a lucky crit kill), if it's not dead then I CMAN FEINT, swing a few times, feint, swing a few times and keep repeating until the target is dead.

I was doing runs at 160-180 seconds this year. Last year my fastest run was 196, it's now 160 this year.

Only thing I find impressive about the DR Arena is how easy it is and how you can build up exp fast, sitting on 70K+ in long-term exp that I've built up over the past 12-14 months from hunting and from the arena runs.

Also, I dumped a couple more ranks in PF through Ascension and pushed his redux up a little and it now sits at 13.51%, up from 13.23%.

Now at level 63.

heal
You seem to be in one piece.

Maximum Health Points: 175
Remaining Health Points: 175

Maximum Spirit Points: 10
Remaining Spirit Points: 10

Maximum Stamina Points: 117
Remaining Stamina Points: 117

Physical Damage Reduction: 13.90%

It's been an entertaining and interesting journey with this guy. Slow to level him, but I'm still at it.

His current redux at level 63 and skills (ascension included):

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You have old battle scars on your left leg.

    Maximum Health Points: 175
  Remaining Health Points: 175

    Maximum Spirit Points: 10
  Remaining Spirit Points: 10

    Maximum Stamina Points: 118
  Remaining Stamina Points: 118

Physical Damage Reduction: 14.12%

(at level 63), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
  Skill Name                        | Current Current
                                    |  Bonus  Ranks
  Armor Use..........................|    172      72
  Shield Use.........................|    164      64
  Combat Maneuvers...................|    166      66
  Edged Weapons......................|    170      70
  Brawling...........................|      5      1
  Physical Fitness...................|    172      72
  Magic Item Use.....................|      74      16
  Harness Power......................|    154      54
  Elemental Lore - Air...............|    138      39
  Elemental Lore - Earth.............|    120      30
  Perception.........................|    166      66
  Climbing...........................|    141      41
  Swimming...........................|    132      36

Spell Lists
  Major Elemental....................|              20

Spell Lists
  Wizard.............................|              13

your Ascension Abilities are as follows:

  Skill                Mnemonic        Ranks Type          Category        Subcategory
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Armor Use            armoruse        7/50  Passive        Common          Skill         
  Edged Weapons        edgedweapons    5/50  Passive        Common          Skill         
  Physical Fitness    physicalfitness 7/50  Passive        Common          Skill

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Now that he's officially level 64 (yeah, you read it right, 64 bitches!) here's his redux/skills:

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You seem to be in one piece.

    Maximum Health Points: 175
  Remaining Health Points: 175

    Maximum Spirit Points: 10
  Remaining Spirit Points: 10

    Maximum Stamina Points: 118
  Remaining Stamina Points: 118

Physical Damage Reduction: 14.49%

(at level 64), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
  Skill Name                        | Current Current
                                    |  Bonus  Ranks
  Armor Use..........................|    173      73
  Shield Use.........................|    165      65
  Combat Maneuvers...................|    167      67
  Edged Weapons......................|    171      71
  Brawling...........................|      10      2
  Physical Fitness...................|    173      73
  Magic Item Use.....................|      78      17
  Harness Power......................|    154      54
  Elemental Lore - Air...............|    138      39
  Elemental Lore - Earth.............|    122      31
  Perception.........................|    167      67
  Climbing...........................|    142      42
  Swimming...........................|    134      37

Spell Lists
  Major Elemental....................|              20

Spell Lists
  Wizard.............................|              13

your Ascension Abilities are as follows:

  Skill                Mnemonic        Ranks Type          Category        Subcategory
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Armor Use            armoruse        7/50  Passive        Common          Skill         
  Edged Weapons        edgedweapons    5/50  Passive        Common          Skill         
  Physical Fitness    physicalfitness 7/50  Passive        Common          Skill

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Here he is fully decked out in his enhancives:

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You seem to be in one piece.

    Maximum Health Points: 193
  Remaining Health Points: 175
  You are feeling pretty good.

    Maximum Spirit Points: 10
  Remaining Spirit Points: 10

    Maximum Stamina Points: 128
  Remaining Stamina Points: 118

Physical Damage Reduction: 17.84%


(at level 64), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
  Skill Name                        | Current Current
                                    |  Bonus  Ranks
  Armor Use..........................|    185      85
  Shield Use.........................|    172      72
  Combat Maneuvers...................|    167      67
  Edged Weapons......................|    214    114
  Brawling...........................|      10      2
  Physical Fitness...................|    183      83
  Magic Item Use.....................|      81      17
  Harness Power......................|    155      55
  Elemental Mana Control.............|      2      0
  Elemental Lore - Air...............|    138      39
  Elemental Lore - Earth.............|    122      31
  Stalking and Hiding................|      10      2
  Perception.........................|    170      70
  Climbing...........................|    142      42
  Swimming...........................|    137      38

Spell Lists
  Major Elemental....................|              20

Spell Lists
  Wizard.............................|              13

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What is their AS like with that setup?

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Winter

What is their AS like with that setup?

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If the T2 on his 7x falchion activates it is 381.

Moving on up, level 65 now:

>heal
You seem to be in one piece.

Maximum Health Points: 175
Remaining Health Points: 175

Maximum Spirit Points: 10
Remaining Spirit Points: 10

Maximum Stamina Points: 119
Remaining Stamina Points: 119

Physical Damage Reduction: 14.90%

Took advantage of having 200+ instant mind clears and the arena. Pushed through another level and am at level 66 now.

>heal
You seem to be in one piece.

Maximum Health Points: 175
Remaining Health Points: 175

Maximum Spirit Points: 10
Remaining Spirit Points: 10

Maximum Stamina Points: 118
Remaining Stamina Points: 118

Physical Damage Reduction: 15.09%

Moving on up again! Level 67 now.

>heal
You seem to be in one piece.

Maximum Health Points: 175
Remaining Health Points: 175

Maximum Spirit Points: 10
Remaining Spirit Points: 10

Maximum Stamina Points: 119
Remaining Stamina Points: 119

Physical Damage Reduction: 15.79%

Finally took some time to play him more and hit level 68. Slow going with 60% exp going to ascension, but I'm getting there.

Here is his current redux.

>heal
You seem to be in one piece.

Base Enhanced
Maximum Health Points: 176 176
Remaining Health Points: 175
Health Recovery: 6 6
You are feeling pretty good.

Maximum Spirit Points: 10 10
Remaining Spirit Points: 10

Maximum Stamina Points: 117 121
Remaining Stamina Points: 120
Stamina Recovery: 34 36

Physical Damage Reduction: 16.16%

Level 69!

Dumped a couple more points into FP via ascension. Here's his redux without any enhancives:

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>heal
You seem to be in one piece.

                            Base  Enhanced
    Maximum Health Points:  176      176
  Remaining Health Points:  176
          Health Recovery:    7        7

    Maximum Spirit Points:    10        10
  Remaining Spirit Points:    10

    Maximum Stamina Points:  119      122
  Remaining Stamina Points:  122
          Stamina Recovery:    34        36

 Physical Damage Reduction: 17.04%

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Here's his redux all decked out in his enhancive gear.

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You are now in a defensive stance.
>heal
You seem to be in one piece.

                            Base  Enhanced
    Maximum Health Points:  176      202
  Remaining Health Points:  176
          Health Recovery:    7        8
  You are feeling pretty good.

    Maximum Spirit Points:    10        10
  Remaining Spirit Points:    10

    Maximum Stamina Points:  119      132
  Remaining Stamina Points:  122
          Stamina Recovery:    37        39

 Physical Damage Reduction: 19.98%

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Oh....man, just .02% from 20%.

Put my most recent ascension point (to get me to 2 points to use) into Physical Fitness and leveled to 70.

Here's his current skills and redux without any enhancives equipped (except his armor, he leaves that on all the time and it provides 10 bonus to Edged Weapons:

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(at level 70), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
  Skill Name                        | Current Current
                                    |  Bonus  Ranks
  Armor Use..........................|    182      82
  Shield Use.........................|    171      71
  Combat Maneuvers...................|    173      73
  Edged Weapons......................|    187      87
  Brawling...........................|      30      6
  Physical Fitness...................|    182      82
  Magic Item Use.....................|      99      23
  Harness Power......................|    154      54
  Elemental Lore - Air...............|    138      39
  Elemental Lore - Earth.............|    136      38
  Perception.........................|    173      73
  Climbing...........................|    148      48
  Swimming...........................|    143      43

Spell Lists
  Major Elemental....................|              20

Spell Lists
  Wizard.............................|              13


your Ascension Abilities are as follows:

  Skill                Mnemonic        Ranks Type          Category        Subcategory
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Armor Use            armoruse        10/50 Passive        Common          Skill         
  Edged Weapons        edgedweapons    5/50  Passive        Common          Skill         
  Physical Fitness    physicalfitness 10/50 Passive        Common          Skill 


>heal
You have some minor cuts and bruises on your left arm.

                            Base  Enhanced
    Maximum Health Points:  176      176
  Remaining Health Points:  176
          Health Recovery:    7        7

    Maximum Spirit Points:    10        10
  Remaining Spirit Points:    10

    Maximum Stamina Points:  119      122
  Remaining Stamina Points:  122
          Stamina Recovery:    34        36

 Physical Damage Reduction: 17.42%

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His current stats, if anyone is curious:

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Dwarf  Profession: Wizard
Gender: Male    Age: 45    Expr: 4,416,368    Level:  70
                Ascended (Bonus)  ...  Enhanced (Bonus)
    Strength (STR):    95 (32)    ...  95 (32)
Constitution (CON):    92 (36)    ...  92 (36)
  Dexterity (DEX):    92 (21)    ...  94 (22)
    Agility (AGI):    96 (18)    ...  96 (18)
  Discipline (DIS):    86 (28)    ...  86 (28)
        Aura (AUR):    97 (13)    ...  97 (13)
      Logic (LOG):    90 (25)    ...  90 (25)
  Intuition (INT):    88 (19)    ...  96 (23)
      Wisdom (WIS):    86 (18)    ...  86 (18)
  Influence (INF):    68 (-1)    ...  68 (-1)
Mana:  208  Silver: 0

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Here is his redux when he's decked out with his enhancive gear:

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>heal
You have some minor cuts and bruises on your left arm.

                            Base  Enhanced
    Maximum Health Points:  176      202
  Remaining Health Points:  176
          Health Recovery:    7        8
  You are feeling pretty good.

    Maximum Spirit Points:    10        10
  Remaining Spirit Points:    10

    Maximum Stamina Points:  119      133
  Remaining Stamina Points:  122
          Stamina Recovery:    37        39

 Physical Damage Reduction: 20.28%

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Anyone questioning about the few ranks in Brawling - figure I'd like for him to have some parry DS if he has to put his weapon away or if he gets disarmed. Also, it helps aid in building up redux. 6 ranks of Brawling equates to 132 MTP used. I could certainly, instead, work on training up Dodge to help boost redux and eventually DS, but 132 MTP only gets me 2 ranks of Dodge.

Dodge ranks provide 20 redux points each rank; 2 ranks of Dodge gives me 40 Redux points
Brawling ranks provide 15 redux points each rank; 6 ranks of Brawling gives me 90 Redux points.

As you can see, if I moved to 2 ranks of Dodge I'd lose out on 50 Redux points. My goal is to build up as high of a redux as I can and with Dodge costing so much it's just a skill I'm deciding to leave for post-cap while I slowly sink points into Brawling to give me more of a beneficial return on my training points; empty handed parry DS and redux points.

In other words; I'd have to put 10 ranks into Dodge (500 Redux points) to equal 34 ranks of Brawling (510 Redux points), I'd much rather have 34 ranks in Brawling over 10 ranks of Dodge by the time I cap.

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 20

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 13



that's certainly a choice. i assume you rely heavily on spellups from other people, and/or spell up bottles?

Also, what armor is he wearing? (AsG)

What do you do when you're not being hit for 20.28% less damage though?

Quote:

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Originally Posted by caelric

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 20

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 13



that's certainly a choice. i assume you rely heavily on spellups from other people, and/or spell up bottles?

Also, what armor is he wearing? (AsG)

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Yeah, character choice based on his backstory for his limited spells. He has access to the invoker if need, but I can provide most spells from a couple of characters if I don't feel like begging from strangers.

Right now his total redux is reduced by 25% for knowing 33 spells. I cobbled together an excel sheet a while back for the redux formula, but I must not have saved it and I'm too lazy to redo it again. If I were to take his spell ranks up to 58, for example (getting spell 425 for some extra AS), at level 70 his known spell penalty to his redux would increase from 25% to 35%. This would drop his redux down more so in the range 16-17% when he's wearing all his enhancives.

Now, is that roughly 3-4% drop in redux worth it for an extra 25 AS? Not right now. After leveling his AS is 387, hits 402 when his ensorcell triggers and he doesn't have any issues hitting things he hunts. But, maybe sometime down the road I may just say screw it and invest in spell 425. Were I to get to level 100 and have 58 spells known, his redux penalty would be 27%...which is just about where he is now. I'll just have to wait and see if those extra 25 AS points are needed or not when I get there.

He's wearing AsG 12 (brig) that is 10 CER crit and damage padded. Plus the 5 CER he gets from 520 active that puts his crit padding at exceptional level. He's certainly over trained for brig in regards to action penalty, but the current 28% spell hindrance is a bit of a pain. Thankfully that's remedied by using armored casting. I wouldn't mind eventually getting him into chain armor, but that's something to look into closer to cap.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Methais

What do you do when you're not being hit for 20.28% less damage though?

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I keep kicking the crap out things that pure wizards and even most, if not all warmages, would have to retreat from and run home to mommy as soon as they get caught in offensive or take a solid hit from a maneuver. With 200+ health, damage padding, crit padding and redux - I'm a well trained wannabe rogue that knows too many spells, can't hide, can't ambush, doesn't get weapon/shield skills to use and has a very limited CMAN pool to pick from!

Level 71

Code:

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>heal
You seem to be in one piece.

                            Base  Enhanced
    Maximum Health Points:  176      176
  Remaining Health Points:  176
          Health Recovery:    7        7

    Maximum Spirit Points:    10        10
  Remaining Spirit Points:    10

    Maximum Stamina Points:  119      123
  Remaining Stamina Points:  123
          Stamina Recovery:    34        36

 Physical Damage Reduction: 17.70%

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Decked out in enhancives:

Code:

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>heal
You seem to be in one piece.

                            Base  Enhanced
    Maximum Health Points:  176      202
  Remaining Health Points:  176
          Health Recovery:    7        8
  You are feeling pretty good.

    Maximum Spirit Points:    10        10
  Remaining Spirit Points:    10

    Maximum Stamina Points:  119      133
  Remaining Stamina Points:  123
          Stamina Recovery:    37        39

 Physical Damage Reduction: 20.52%

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Still moving along here; level 72 now.

No enhancives, except his armor that he leaves on - so I don't have to constantly track down Armored Casting.

Code:

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>heal
You seem to be in one piece.

                            Base  Enhanced
    Maximum Health Points:  176      176
  Remaining Health Points:  176
          Health Recovery:    7        7

    Maximum Spirit Points:    10        10
  Remaining Spirit Points:    8

    Maximum Stamina Points:  120      123
  Remaining Stamina Points:  123
          Stamina Recovery:    34        36

 Physical Damage Reduction: 17.97%

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All enhancives on

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>heal
You seem to be in one piece.

                            Base  Enhanced
    Maximum Health Points:  176      203
  Remaining Health Points:  203
          Health Recovery:    8        9

    Maximum Spirit Points:    10        10
  Remaining Spirit Points:    10

    Maximum Stamina Points:  120      137
  Remaining Stamina Points:  136
          Stamina Recovery:    38        40

 Physical Damage Reduction: 21.45%

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Originally Posted by drumpel

Still moving along here; level 72 now.

No enhancives, except his armor that he leaves on - so I don't have to constantly track down Armored Casting.

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>heal
You seem to be in one piece.

                            Base  Enhanced
    Maximum Health Points:  176      176
  Remaining Health Points:  176
          Health Recovery:    7        7

    Maximum Spirit Points:    10        10
  Remaining Spirit Points:    8

    Maximum Stamina Points:  120      123
  Remaining Stamina Points:  123
          Stamina Recovery:    34        36

 Physical Damage Reduction: 17.97%

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All enhancives on

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>heal
You seem to be in one piece.

                            Base  Enhanced
    Maximum Health Points:  176      203
  Remaining Health Points:  203
          Health Recovery:    8        9

    Maximum Spirit Points:    10        10
  Remaining Spirit Points:    10

    Maximum Stamina Points:  120      137
  Remaining Stamina Points:  136
          Stamina Recovery:    38        40

 Physical Damage Reduction: 21.45%

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Do you ever feel ripped off if you go on a hunt without getting hit?

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Originally Posted by Methais

Do you ever feel ripped off if you go on a hunt without getting hit?

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I wouldn't say I feel let down or anything of the sort. I am actually amused as how far you can get in this game with such awkward builds while still being successful at hunting and not dying. 10+ years ago, a build such as this without the help of ascension and enhancives, not possible. You'd get to a point where you'd just lack the AS without the help of spell 425 and the extra protection of spell 430 to keep hunting. Sure, some mutant builds I have going require patience and dedication, but having level 72 mage with the redux of a well trained semi (or a poorly trained square), that has achieved nearly 400AS (currently at 399, help with enhancives and ascension) and can safely over hunt (taking on mino warriors and magus that are 4-6 levels over him) without anyone else holding his hand is fun.

Most hunts I don't get hit as long as I'm paying attention.

When I do get hit, having 10 CER crit & damage padded brig, most hits tend to be around 4-8 health loss and a minor. It's when I get rocked by a THW and a 250+ endroll, only take a minor, loose 40 health and a end up with a 2 round stun....being able to stand there without any fear of dying (outside of really shitty luck) during the stun, being able to regain control and keep hunting, well, that's fun doing it as a mage without any helping spells such as 550 or being able to berserk out of it like a warrior.

The krag dwellers that do that SMR roll you over attack, I've been hit by them numerous times and never killed and I don't think I've ever been stunned by it, either. Getting gored by a boar SMR charge in the red forest with my armor has always kept me alive. I've had pures in robes and full leather that takes similar hits from these maneuvers and have easily died from 102 endrolls. 102 endrolls on this redux mage and he laughs, gets up and kicks the shit out of them.

It makes it tough going back to playing a standard pure build in soft leather or robes after having a couple of mutant builds that puts them into scale and chain mail.