Thread for Things That Made You Frown Today

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Originally Posted by Latrinsorm

Unless you are suggesting you parry knife thrusts with your gun, the defense we are talking about is in fact offense spelled with a d.I agree that firearms very much level the playing field. I disagree that this does not apply to assassination attempts. Surprise helps, but I believe I can demonstrate that it is not an overwhelming factor: suppose a 4 year old tried to ambush Anticor with a hammer. He stands a very good chance of surviving, no? A 4 year old can only hit so hard, Anticor might be able to react in time. Now suppose we give that 4 year old your .22, or some other gun that has exceptionally low recoil. Anticor gets shot in the head with exactly as much velocity from a 4 year old as from the most expertly trained killer.

But let us return for a moment to this specific case, as you mentioned. A person who intends to kill themselves is certainly not concerned about being caught and tried later. We therefore agree that this makes the gun the ideal choice. Do we agree that removing access to guns therefore presents a barrier to success, however slight? and that this barrier could conceivably prevent a given person from pursuing their goal?

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No- I don't agree that it provides any barrier whatsoever. People have been committing murder and suicide for a very long time. Believe me, they will manage it with or without guns.

So your argument is that because it makes murder marginally easier, it should be outlawed? That may be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Providing an ivy league education makes it more likely that your child will be elected president who will then go on to cause multiple foreign wars that don't benefit the nation. I say we outlaw ivy league education to prevent war.

I peeled a delicious-looking, perfectly ripe banana, and just as I was lifting it up to take a big scrumptious bite, the stupid fuck broke off and fell on the floor, but not before first hitting my thigh and leaving stupid cunt banana bits on my pants.

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Originally Posted by Delias

No- I don't agree that it provides any barrier whatsoever. People have been committing murder and suicide for a very long time. Believe me, they will manage it with or without guns.

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Ok, but surely that is irrelevant. People have been doing math forever too, that doesn't mean a modern calculator doesn't make doing math easier. I do not believe that there were literally no murders or suicides before the invention of firearms; if I did, surely I would have said something like "insurmountable barrier" rather than "barrier however slight".

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So your argument is that because it makes murder marginally easier, it should be outlawed? That may be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Providing an ivy league education makes it more likely that your child will be elected president who will then go on to cause multiple foreign wars that don't benefit the nation. I say we outlaw ivy league education to prevent war.

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Well, my argument is primarily whether or not it makes murder and suicide easier. Until we come to an agreement on that, it seems silly to go any further. If you insist, I would say that the risks outweigh the costs of somewhat more stringent gun control, therefore we should have somewhat more stringent gun control.

The people in this class that are going to pass but know fuck all about what this class is even about. As long as your check clears you have to try really, really hard to fail out of college.

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Originally Posted by Latrinsorm

Ok, but surely that is irrelevant. People have been doing math forever too, that doesn't mean a modern calculator doesn't make doing math easier. I do not believe that there were literally no murders or suicides before the invention of firearms; if I did, surely I would have said something like "insurmountable barrier" rather than "barrier however slight".Well, my argument is primarily whether or not it makes murder and suicide easier. Until we come to an agreement on that, it seems silly to go any further. If you insist, I would say that the risks outweigh the costs of somewhat more stringent gun control, therefore we should have somewhat more stringent gun control.

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Look, in Chicago, you can't own a handgun. Yet everyone I know who lives there owns a handgun. I am not certain the "somewhat more stringent gun control" you suggest is even possible in reality.

So, in a place where you have to register to own firearms and then you can't even own handguns, tons of people have them. What do you suggest that is more stringent than "totally illegal"?

Edit: As the day goes on I am getting into a progressively shittier mood. I'm really not interested in even civil debate at the moment. I'll just go ahead and agree and say you win.

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Originally Posted by diethx

That is full of so much win I can't even express it in words. It wouldn't help me, though. :(

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I am very disappointed in the PC that this has been here for almost 6 hours and not one person gave Stef a hard time for saying that a cock sock was "full of so much win".

It really depends on who's wearing the sock, if you want to put it like that, Lia. But yeah, I agree. As Dave said, the PC is shitty these days and mostly about politics.

A cock sock is what happens when you're alone and you're too lazy to get some toilet paper, right?

RIGHT.

You guys rock. Keep up the good work.

I was not happy about this, I had to walk all the way to the garage for a rubber mallet :(

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Originally Posted by Tsk Tsk

I was not happy about this, I had to walk all the way to the garage for a rubber mallet :(

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That's hilarious.