Things that made you frown today (Political Version)

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Originally Posted by drauz

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/xIM8...20-79419.0.jpg

Looks pretty stead to me. Thats from Vox btw.

I don't particularly care if its a mass murder or "run of the mill" murder though. One just causes more emotion because of how they're covered.

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Ya you have a point. Data is not supporting my ideas too much. This is the one I've seen.

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"The only gun control measure that had a statistically significant effect on the number of school shooting victims was the assault weapons ban," he writes. "When the assault weapons ban, state or federal, was in effect, the number of school shooting victims was 54.4 percent less than (when it was not in effect)."

Gius adds two cautionary notes to these findings. First, such laws are one of many factors influencing school-shooting deaths.

"States that had above-average unemployment and gun ownership rates, along with greater than average alcohol consumption and larger student-age populations, had greater number of school shooting victims," he writes.

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https://psmag.com/news/assault-weapo...hooting-deaths

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Ya you have a point. Data is not supporting my ideas too much. This is the one I've seen.



https://psmag.com/news/assault-weapo...hooting-deaths

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Mine is all mass shootings and yours is only school shootings. I believe mine is 4+ deaths but all shootings.

I do notice that yours doesn't say that instances of school shootings isn't decreased only the number of victims in them.

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Originally Posted by drauz

Mine is all mass shootings and yours is only school shootings. I believe mine is 4+ deaths but all shootings.

I do notice that yours doesn't say that instances of school shootings isn't decreased only the number of victims in them.

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Ya I wonder about that too. It would support a ban if there's less victims though I wonder if the sample size is big enough. It seems that there aren't any solid conclusions to be drawn from the assault weapons ban because of grandfathering anyway.

That leaves us with information from other countries but that doesn't really apply here. We seem to have a unique relationship with our guns and the 2nd amendment

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Originally Posted by drauz

Why the clear backpack is stupid.

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This to some degree is/was being applied in stadiums for purses/carry ins. Not sure if it ever fully got off the ground but it was in legitimate discussions.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

We know what's been tried and the assault weapon ban had a positive impact on mass shootings.

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Edit:And no, about the getting around things. You'll never stop crime 100%. We do know ways to deter it.

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Banning assault weapons has done nothing to stop mass shootings. Where has clear backpacks been tried?

So far, the "best" ideas I have heard is clear backpacks, buckets of stones and canned goods. At least these ideas are new and haven't been proven false.

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The article is an example of laws working. Dude had to find a state that didn't have laws against his half assed engineering

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And your answer to school shootings is an example of Einstein's theory of Insanity. It's not an example of laws actually working.

The Royals and the Chefs here in Kansas and I think my Oakland Raiders do clear bags only

I used to watch Cub's games from my friends roof. After 9/11 they put up screen netting to block the view. It was protection from snipers. Then they worked out a deal to charge admission at these rooftops and sell concessions. I figured clear bags in the same category. Make sure no one's brining in something to compete with sales.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

They got more kills with the sawed off shotgun than anything else too and thats been illegal forever

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So your ban is based solely on emotion.

Please don't vote.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

We seem to have a unique relationship with our guns and the 2nd amendment

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One of the few countries that haven't been ruled by a dictator or invaded as well.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

You think its a good idea?

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I think it is a great fucking idea. We had to wear clear and net backpacks after Columbine. We also had to wear ID cards and lanyards. I lived through it, I didn't feel like there were any violations against my rights. Stop being willfully fucking stupid.

Originally the ID cards also had your grade on them too, but they took them off when people got made fun of for being grade 10.5. That is what your ID would say, based on your arguments here. You have the intellect of a grade 10.5.