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Here.. this is from NOAA:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashliana
http://www.climate.gov/news-features...ng-past-decade
They are calling it the "pause" in global warming. It's the reason why we don't even talk about global warming anymore.. and classify it as climate change.
Again, no, that is not the reason why the scientific community refers to "climate change" as opposed to "global warming." Again, see NASA under the Bush administration's stance on the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
And no, the "pause" they're referring to--notice the quotation marks that NOAA used--refers to a pause in the continued climb of global average temperatures--temperatures which remain at their highest levels in recorded history.
Concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere continue to rise--that isn't up for debate, and we know for certain the effect that this has on temperature--which is why other factors have been considered--your deliberate mischaracterization of climate science notwithstanding.
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/webdata..._trend_mlo.png
If you think we can allow CO2 levels to rise unchecked indefinitely with no consequences, you're as exactly as gleefully, willfully ignorant as I think you are, and virtually every Republican is.
That's the whole paragraph. PB is being deliberately obtuse in harping on this use of the word "pause." The institute's problem lies in attempting to engage with people who will reject their assessment no matter how much they explain it or how much proof they offer.Quote:
The “pause” in global warming observed since 2000 followed a period of rapid acceleration in the late 20th century. Starting in the mid-1970s, global temperatures rose 0.5 °C over a period of 25 years. Since the turn of the century, however, the change in Earth’s global mean surface temperature has been close to zero. Yet despite the halt in acceleration, each of the last three decades has been successively warmer at the Earth’s surface than any preceding decade since 1850..
So, since 2000, there has been zero change in the Earth's temperature... which is the reason for the "pause".Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
What again did I say exactly? I said 12 years.. so it's been 13 years. My bad.
And people would be far more agreeable and open to discussion if the crazy liberal left didn't hijack this to promote their own political ideals and ambitions.
I'm really over climate change, I really don't give a shit anymore. It's going to take like some 2000+ years for the ice caps to melt. I will be long dead. But his last point is valid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
The people that wish to push this the most have sort of political/monetary gain attached. This fact alone makes it lame to even care about. They aren't actually doing it for "Mother Earth" they are doing it so more libtards will suck them off while they fly around on Air Force One and private jets.
I love the cognitive dissonance that goes into making the statement "Uhh, uhh, financial interests in green energy are the reason that the near-unanimous body of scientists of the modern era has come to the conclusion that climate change is a serious threat to humanity" while simultaneously ignoring the enormously larger financial interests in maintaining the status quo for the fossil fuel industry, which are the only thing propping up the "conservative," anti-scientific position on the issue.
"Uhh, uhh.. Limosine Liberals.. Al Gore.. Solyndra loans.." does not constitute a scientific basis for digging your head in the sand and pretending like humanity isn't having a dramatic, potentially irreversible effect on the world.
Perhaps not scientific but definitely brings into question the sincerity of their motivation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashliana
You would think if hippies really loved the Earth as much as they say they do they would want humans to keep pumping out pollution so we kill ourselves off faster.
After all don't scientists agree that even though humanity might be wiped out the Earth will continue on just fine? Maybe the next species that evolves will be kinder to the Earth from the get go; like star fish, they seem pretty environmentally friendly.
We won't know though unless you give humans the chance to make themselves extinct.
If you were a total nutjob maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
How is that being a nut job? You love the Earth and want to save it. Humans are currently destroying the Earth. Solution seems obvious; humans have got to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
If termites were destroying my wood porch I sure as heck wouldn't try to get them to start munching on plastic instead so they could save my wood porch; I would kill the suckers.