You know, ironically... when I read the real reasons we went to Iraq... I'm not all that against them. I am against the massive game of bait and switch that was pulled on the American public.
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You know, ironically... when I read the real reasons we went to Iraq... I'm not all that against them. I am against the massive game of bait and switch that was pulled on the American public.
My God, Ilvane... Prestius...
Do either of you even bother to read about something before going on and restating move-on.org's bs?
Swiftboats are a UNIT. You live, eat, play, buy 8mm cameras together. You co-habitate through each of the mobile bases that they create as they go down a river or creek.
These men, all 325 of them at the onset, knew one another intimately. Their commander rose to the rank of rear adm.
I'm telling you all right now. Should Bush some how lose this election, and I havn't lost faith in the American people to think that it would happen, but even a blind squirrel can find an acorn, I am going to remove every penny I have in my investments, sell my house, quit my job, and find a nice little island to live on until someone else is re-elected or the country is destroyed in a nuclear explosion because Kerry is over "being sensitive" HIS WORDS to the needs of those trying to kill us.
Incredible. Why do I read these threads?!?!?
Open yer eyes up a bit. They're both damn well frightening. That makes me sad...but hey, that's politics.
Democrats want to kill you dead. You love it.Quote:
Originally posted by Celtic
My God, Ilvane... Prestius...
Do either of you even bother to read about something before going on and restating move-on.org's bs?
Swiftboats are a UNIT. You live, eat, play, buy 8mm cameras together. You co-habitate through each of the mobile bases that they create as they go down a river or creek.
These men, all 325 of them at the onset, knew one another intimately. Their commander rose to the rank of rear adm.
I'm telling you all right now. Should Bush some how lose this election, and I havn't lost faith in the American people to think that it would happen, but even a blind squirrel can find an acorn, I am going to remove every penny I have in my investments, sell my house, quit my job, and find a nice little island to live on until someone else is re-elected or the country is destroyed in a nuclear explosion because Kerry is over "being sensitive" HIS WORDS to the needs of those trying to kill us.
Incredible. Why do I read these threads?!?!?
Totally agree. Its good that Saddam was gone now, however, I still disagree totally with the conduct of how the war was started and the false pretenses many people were decieved by in the support of the war.Quote:
Originally posted by Warriorbird
You know, ironically... when I read the real reasons we went to Iraq... I'm not all that against them. I am against the massive game of bait and switch that was pulled on the American public.
Celtic, I personally find the thought of another 4 years of President Bush entirely as frightening as you do of 4 years of Kerry.
Bush has done so many things to make us look bad, created an immense deficit, employment is down, people are angry at us all over the world, polluters have been given breaks on environmental policies, his mislead us on reasons for going to war with Iraq, has been calling people who don't agree with the war "unpatriotic" and "Un-American", and given tax breaks to the rich.
What I want to know is what is go great about Bush, that he should be re-elected. Whenever I seem to ask that question, no one can seem to answer it. What has he done that has made America better, more safe, and more successful?
-A
And you forgot this one.Quote:
Originally posted by Kefka
You forgot this article:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...cism_of_kerry/
WASHINGTON -- A week after Senator John F. Kerry heralded his wartime experience by surrounding himself at the Democratic convention with his Vietnam ''Band of Brothers," a separate group of veterans has launched a television ad campaign and a book that questions the basis for some of Kerry's combat medals.
But yesterday, a key figure in the anti-Kerry campaign, Kerry's former commanding officer, backed off one of the key contentions. Lieutenant Commander George Elliott said in an interview that he had made a ''terrible mistake" in signing an affidavit that suggests Kerry did not deserve the Silver Star -- one of the main allegations in the book. The affidavit was given to The Boston Globe by the anti-Kerry group to justify assertions in their ad and book.
ANTI-KERRY VETS HANG TOUGH
Fri Aug 06 2004 13:37:12 ET
The following statement from Swift Boat Veterans for Truth concerns an article appearing in morning edition of the BOSTON GLOBE, written by GLOBE reporter and author of the official Kerry-Edwards campaign book, Mike Kranish.
"Captain George Elliott describes an article appearing in today’s edition of the BOSTON GLOBE by Mike Kranish as extremely inaccurate and highly misstating his actual views. He reaffirms his statement in the current advertisement paid for by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, Captain Elliott reaffirms his affidavit in support of that advertisement, and he reaffirms his request that the ad be played.
“Additional documentation will follow.
"The article by Mr. Kranish is particularly surprising given page 102 of Mr. Kranish’s own book quoting John Kerry as acknowledging that he killed a single, wounded, fleeing Viet Cong soldier whom he was afraid would turn around.
"Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has more than 250 supporters who are revealing first hand, eyewitness accounts of numerous incidents concerning John Kerry’s military service record. The organization will continue to discuss much of what John Kerry has reported as fact concerning his four-month tour of duty in Vietnam."
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash5.htm
Ilvane, what exactly are you talking about when you keep saying that Bush "mislead" us about his reasons for going to war? Did you bother to read my post at all, or did you just ignore it? Did you read the article that Factcheck.org did on it? Or did you ignore that too as worthless because it doesn't say what you want to hear?
To re-iterate, he had credible intelligence from more than one source that Iraq WAS looking to purchase uranium from Africa...not just one source, but multiple sources. Got it? On top of that, the Senate oversight comittee even agreed that he did...but still you seem to think that Bush has some "pipe dream" as you
call it about conquering Iraq? Why? And you completely ignored the fact that Saddam Hussein HAS in the past used WMD both against the Kurds in northern Iraq, and during the Iran-Iraq war. Again, why? Just because you don't agree with the war is no reason to ignore the facts.
As far as the way America is veiwed i got news for ya, America has been unpopuler all over the world since, hell...FDR? Bashing America seems to be a daily occurence in the European press, and we have never been populer in the Middle East. Oh, and i can say this because for the past 14 years i have been travelling all over Europe, including France, Spain, Germany, and England, not to mention the Persian Gulf and North Africa. But somehow it's all "Bush's fault" Even when he wasn't President. Right?
About the only thing you said that I did agree with was the deficit that we have now and his lack of a decent Domestic policy. And i will even agree with you that his policy decisions in post-war Iraq have been..well...to be honest, moronic. A country that makes BILLIONS a month in oil revenues needs our money to rebuild? I don't think so.
But if you look back at the numbers as far as unemployement goes, and i mean go and look it up, not just take my word for it, or the medias word for it, but go find out for yourself, you might be surprised to see that Clinton's and Bush's numbers are damn near the same on the unemployement rate. Of course, he didn't have a hostile media constantly slamming everything he did, did he?
[Edited on 8-7-2004 by Slider]
Clinton actually created jobs in his administration, and he also had been paying down the national debt.
Anyway..I did read your information. Bush was given the 'credible' information, and was also told before he did his State of the Union speech that some of it may not be good intelligence. He chose to use it anyway.
So do I still feel the same way, yes.
-A
The tech bubble created jobs during the Clinton administration.Quote:
Clinton actually created jobs in his administration, and he also had been paying down the national debt.