Pelosi officially announces impeachment inquiry

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Originally Posted by Annahlee

Current Republican arguments against impeachment: we're corrupt as fuck and don't give a single fuck about the laws of this country, get over it

Can someone link the Republican's alternate facts source that the Mueller report exonerated Trump? They mention it every day but I've yet to see it.

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https://media1.tenor.com/images/f606...itemid=7445527

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Originally Posted by Methais

Setting leftist butthurt tantrums aside for a moment, how do you prove who was driving the car? You're not seriously arguing in favor of speed (or red light, which got pwned in court in NOLA) cameras are you?

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I'm not arguing in favor of speed cameras, that's why I brought them up :p

If an officer needs to witness the infraction in order to issue a citation I think the least we should ask of "witnesses" in an impeachment inquiry is to have first hand knowledge of anything they are alleging. Someone sitting before congress (well one committee in the basement) and saying "Yeah I think bad things happened because I heard from someone who heard from someone who said Trump said a bad thing" is absurd.

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Originally Posted by Taernath

Weaker in terms of what? Mulvaney was out there the other day having a public meltdown telling us 'we do it all the time, get over it'. If you mean that it won't get Trump out of office, you're probably right since the R's are spineless. But with an impeachment at least everything is on record.

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What? Republicans aren't even PART of this political stunt.. what specifically are they spineless over? That they aren't falling for this bullshit?

There is a real reason why Republicans are being left out of interviews, meetings and votes.. and it has nothing to do with any phone call, the Russians or pornstar payments...

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Originally Posted by Seran

Wow. You have got your head so far up your ass that I'm surprised you can even reach your keyboard. Quid pro quo is obtaining a personal favor, gift, benefit from another exchange for a benefit. Trump withheld military aid in exchange for political assistance from the President of Ukraine, namely to publically release he was investigating Biden's son and Trump's email hacking claims. This is an abuse of power and soliciting and illegal foreign contribution to his campaign.

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Isn't it hilarious how the narrative keeps changing based on "bombshell revelations!"

First it was "Trump's quid pro quo was withholding aid in order to investigate Biden!"

When that didn't pan out it was "Trump was withholding aid in order to secure a favor!"

When the transcripts showed that "favor" was referring to election interference (something Democrats wanted) Democrats pretended it was about investigating Biden.

Now we have "Trump's quid pro quo was withholding aid until they publicly announced they were investigating Biden's son!"

Also how is telling Israel "I want X and until you give me X you won't get aid" not the literal definition of a quid pro quo? Are you sure you're mature enough to be discussing this topic if you don't even know what a quid pro quo is?

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Originally Posted by Taernath

... the victim would be Joe Biden.

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How is Joe Biden the victim in all of this?

Democrats have been playing this up that Ukraine is the victim in Trump's supposed underhanded dealings.

Democrats standing up there saying "Our most dear and beloved ally NEEDED that aid for military equipment so they could defend themselves from RUSSIA! Remember Russia bad! And Trump withheld that aid from our most great and perfect ally until he secured a favor in return!"

Sure seems like Ukraine is the victim according to Democrats.

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Originally Posted by Taernath

Weaker in terms of what? Mulvaney was out there the other day having a public meltdown telling us 'we do it all the time, get over it'.

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Mulvaney has already clarified his position and said people were misinterpreting his statements.

This is why this "impeachment inquiry" is looking like nothing but a witch hunt.

So far we have an anonymous whistleblower who we might never know and has hearsay information.
The guy heading up the Ukraine embassy for a whole 4 months with his hearsay information.
And people saying "Look at what Mulvaney said! We have to believe him! Oh no, don't believe him when he says his words are being misconstrued! Believe his original statements that we misconstrued!"

It's like you don't read anything at all. DNC server was an attack on America. We want to know who did it.

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Originally Posted by Annahlee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrQT9fUmk28

"The corruption related to the DNC server? Absolutely, no question about it. That's why we held up the money."

You're so retarded you probably think the earth is flat because you read it on Breitbart once.

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Oh so the money was held up due to CORRUPTION? You mean the exact same reasoning Obama and Biden gave? Funny how that works.

You must have missed the memo of how you were supposed to spin this one.

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Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage

It's like you don't read anything at all. DNC server was an attack on America. We want to know who did it.

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Surprised they're not more interested in the rnc data.

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Originally Posted by Annahlee

They don't have to know who hacked the RNC servers, RNC willingly gave that data over to Russia.

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Annahlee = Hillary Clinton. It all makes so much sense now!

Do any Democrats on the board feel embarrassed that Annahlee is on your side? Or do you see nothing wrong with a raging racist representing your party on the PC?