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03-25-2018, 11:12 PM
cwolff

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Originally Posted by Androidpk

Nope, not buying that excuse.

Then why are bump stocks still legal? Trump is going to ban them but it'll be challenged and he'll probably lose.
03-25-2018, 11:14 PM
drauz

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Originally Posted by cwolff

I think that ship sailed. Individuals may be responsible at home no doubt but as a community they lost their way. The NRA is nuts anymore and as I said above, if the gun loving community was responsible they'd have stopped bump stocks from being a thing. And the %'s for mass shootings are indeed exceedingly small but their impact is absolutely enormous. Its the bad Apple theory. The gun owners (myself included) have failed to step up so now I say we have to do it for them.

You are headed down a especially slippery slope, I don't think you fully understand what you are actually proposing. This logic would be used for much worse ends.
03-25-2018, 11:15 PM
Androidpk

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Then why are bump stocks still legal? Trump is going to ban them but it'll be challenged and he'll probably lose.

Because the GOP controls Congress.
03-25-2018, 11:19 PM
cwolff

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Originally Posted by drauz

You are headed down a especially slippery slope, I don't think you fully understand what you are actually proposing. This logic would be used for much worse ends.

Isn't this just how laws are made? Its like anything and everything. A few assholes push the limits or waaayyy past the limits of what's acceptable and we have to make new laws. The excuse is, "well its not illegal" and we then have to pass laws. Its where you get Big Government

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Originally Posted by Androidpk

Because the GOP controls Congress.

And who are GOP voters, even single issue voters? Gun owners; that's who.
03-25-2018, 11:24 PM
Androidpk

Not all GOP voters are gun owners and not all gun owners are Republican.
03-25-2018, 11:25 PM
drauz

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Isn't this just how laws are made? Its like anything and everything. A few assholes push the limits or waaayyy past the limits of what's acceptable and we have to make new laws. The excuse is, "well its not illegal" and we then have to pass laws. Its where you get Big Government.

And then someone will come in and talk about black crime or Muslim terrorists with that same excuse. Just say "I don't like or understand firearms" and this is the only way I'd use this excuse. Everything else is "different".

Should we enable curfews for blacks? Monitoring chips for Muslims? its just a few bad apples, but better to be safe than sorry.
03-25-2018, 11:30 PM
~Rocktar~

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Originally Posted by drauz

And then someone will come in and talk about black crime or Muslim terrorists with that same excuse. Just say "I don't like or understand firearms" and this is the only way I'd use this excuse. Everything else is "different".

Should we enable curfews for blacks? Monitoring chips for Muslims? its just a few bad apples, but better to be safe than sorry.

What about regulating that evil and dangerous Free Speech? I mean really, how many people have been radicalized by dangerous words and rhetoric that they didn't really understand? How many people have died because we let people say what they want?
03-25-2018, 11:32 PM
Androidpk

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Originally Posted by drauz

Should we enable curfews for blacks? Monitoring chips for Muslims? its just a few bad apples, but better to be safe than sorry.

All of the recent shootings have been carried out by white males. Sounds like we should chip all young white males.
03-25-2018, 11:33 PM
Gelston

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Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~

What about regulating that evil and dangerous Free Speech? I mean really, how many people have been radicalized by dangerous words and rhetoric that they didn't really understand? How many people have died because we let people say what they want?

Shit, not too long ago there was a bunch of people trying to spread fake information that "hate speech" is illegal. I think certain members of this board thought that true as well.
03-25-2018, 11:34 PM
cwolff

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Originally Posted by Androidpk

Not all GOP voters are gun owners and not all gun owners are Republican.

No, not all.

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Originally Posted by drauz

And then someone will come in and talk about black crime or muslim terrorists with that same excuse. Just say "I don't like or understand firearms" and this is the only way I'd use this excuse. Everything else is "different".

Think of it like this: trump violates societal norms by not releasing his tax returns, GOP doesn't make him. Now we have to make laws.

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