US Oil Producers Fail to Produce

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Originally Posted by Gelston

Literally in your link: The BLM’s approval of an APD does not relieve the operator from obtaining any other authorizations or approvals required for conducting drilling or related subsequent operations. This includes requirements of other Federal, Tribal, State, or local authorities.

In layman's terms, just because they have approval to drill from BLM, doesn't mean they are immediately free to begin drilling.

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Can you dumb that down so Seran can understand it?

This conversation reminds me of an interview I saw years back... A young lady somewhere in California was asked if she was worried about the possible food shortage (there was a shipping issue or something at the time, can't exactly recall)... but her response was... "that's okay, I'll just go to the grocery store"...

That's always stuck with me, when realizing the type of people you have to deal with on a daily basis.

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Originally Posted by Gelston

Literally in your link: The BLM’s approval of an APD does not relieve the operator from obtaining any other authorizations or approvals required for conducting drilling or related subsequent operations. This includes requirements of other Federal, Tribal, State, or local authorities.

In layman's terms, just because they have approval to drill from BLM, doesn't mean they are immediately free to begin drilling.

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Which is saying that a drilling permit doesn't grant carte blache to make modifications, changes or expansions from the scope of the approved drilling permit. Read on, you'll get to the point you're overlooking.

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Originally Posted by Seran

Which is saying that a drilling permit doesn't grant carte blache to make modifications, changes or expansions from the scope of the approved drilling permit. Read on, you'll get to the point you're overlooking.

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No, it says that some areas require further permits and have further regulations beyond the need of an APD.

So no...

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Originally Posted by Seran

So yes, the drilling permits ARE the same thing as being granted permission to actually build a drilling rig. Because all of those things you claim happen after the permit approval, are actually part of the permit approval process.

Fucking moron.

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It isn't the same thing. It is BLM's permission. It isn't all the authorizations required.

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Originally Posted by Gelston

No, it says that some areas require further permits and have further regulations beyond the need of an APD.

So no...



It isn't the same thing. It is BLM's permission. It isn't all the authorizations required.

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Agree to disagree.

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Originally Posted by Seran

Agree to disagree.

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There is nothing to "agree to disagree" about, it straight up says you might have to get further approvals and it doesn't absolve you of that.

Fortunately the environmentalists are stepping up

https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/ne...ds-2022-06-15/

I think y’all are missing the forest for the trees here. The way it was explained to me is that even if all the drilling commenced today, there would be virtually no impact on the gasoline market in the US. The refineries here are designed to use the heavier oil from the Middle East, not the lighter stuff we produce. This is why the US exports most of the oil it produces and imports most of the oil it uses. The problem is further exacerbated due to refineries here shutting down at a large rate over the last two years primarily because of unprofitability … to the tune of about 1 million barrels per day. It’s my understanding that to re-fit the existing refineries to use the stuff we produce would take 2 to 4 years. We’re not drilling our way out of this mess.

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Originally Posted by Sighisoara

I think y’all are missing the forest for the trees here. The way it was explained to me is that even if all the drilling commenced today, there would be virtually no impact on the gasoline market in the US. The refineries here are designed to use the heavier oil from the Middle East, not the lighter stuff we produce. This is why the US exports most of the oil it produces and imports most of the oil it uses. The problem is further exacerbated due to refineries here shutting down at a large rate over the last two years primarily because of unprofitability … to the tune of about 1 million barrels per day. It’s my understanding that to re-fit the existing refineries to use the stuff we produce would take 2 to 4 years. We’re not drilling our way out of this mess.

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I remember when this exact same argument was paraded around in 2009 when President Obama was doing the same thing and had the same results of his policies.

If you don't like the results of bad energy policy decisions.. maybe change your policies?

Otherwise, it looks as though this is the exact thing you are trying to achieve from your policies.

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Originally Posted by Seran

Agree to disagree.

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Not sure who is the bigger impersonator of Ron Burgundy... you or President Biden.

https://c.tenor.com/a6jO71lkMmkAAAAC...undy-agree.gif

Mr. Burgundy was spouting nonsense.. his gf was correcting him.. and he had the same response as you do now.

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