NAACP Protests Racist Voter ID Laws

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Originally Posted by cwolff

The GOP can't win with a high voter turn out. In order to fix this problem they've chosen to suppress turnout. It's as simple as that.

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I say we play a game. For every story about a person having their vote "suppressed" let's find another story about people voting illegally.

You start.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

I say we play a game. For every story about a person having their vote "suppressed" let's find another story about people voting illegally.

You start.

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Hi. I'll be filling in for cwolff for right now because Back is unavailable.

There is no problem with voter fraud or people voting illegally. It simply doesn't exist in our country, and that's a fact and you're a bigot for thinking otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

I say we play a game. For every story about a person having their vote "suppressed" let's find another story about people voting illegally.

You start.

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http://www.kiiitv.com/story/23761660...g-maiden-names

The best part: upon showing insufficient ID, all she had to do was promise promise promise she was allowed to vote, and they let her. Welcome to Obama's Texas!

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

I say we play a game. For every story about a person having their vote "suppressed" let's find another story about people voting illegally.

You start.

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No games. I tire of this. Why this PC community of seemingly educated people believes that our elections need the kind of protection that a state issued id card provides is beyond me. There are no facts to support this fear.

What surprises me is that the folks on here who normally bitch endlessly about government spending are willing to institute laws that force governments to spend money on getting everyone a free ID to combat the handful of actual fraud cases out of the millions upon million of votes placed. Free IDs are the only way this will fly, otherwise it's a poll tax which are unconstitutional.

So... dig into those pockets, again out of largely unfounded fears. Whatever.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

No games. I tire of this. Why this PC community of seemingly educated people believes that our elections need the kind of protection that a state issued id card provides is beyond me. There are no facts to support this fear.

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I wanna play a game anyways! Latrin doesn't count.

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Originally Posted by Methais

WB lives in a special world of his own. Don't you dare question him or he will say a bunch of nothing and declare you as put in your place.

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Pointing out when people are unable to separate themselves from partisan politics used to be something you prided yourself on. It's just you right now.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

No games. I tire of this. Why this PC community of seemingly educated people believes that our elections need the kind of protection that a state issued id card provides is beyond me. There are no facts to support this fear.

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Perhaps you could explain why proof of identity would not be necessary. You vote - you prove who you are. It's so basic that I am having a major problem even UNDERSTANDING how there could be opposition. It makes no sense whatsoever. You vote - you prove who are are. Duh.

We could certainly have a discussion on what is acceptable proof - but it must exist.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

I wanna play a game anyways! Latrin doesn't count.

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Mom???

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Originally Posted by Candor

Perhaps you could explain why a state issued ID card would not be necessary. You vote - you prove who you are. It's so basic that I am having a major problem even UNDERSTANDING how there could be opposition. It makes no sense whatsoever. You vote - you prove who are are. Duh.

We could certainly have a discussion on what is acceptable proof - but it must exist.

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What is basic and obvious is not always the same thing as what is true. This is sometimes described in terms of idealism vs. the real world, and in this case you come down on the side of the former.

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Originally Posted by Candor

Perhaps you could explain why proof of identity would not be necessary. You vote - you prove who you are. It's so basic that I am having a major problem even UNDERSTANDING how there could be opposition. It makes no sense whatsoever. You vote - you prove who are are. Duh.

We could certainly have a discussion on what is acceptable proof - but it must exist.

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I addressed this already. You are making an assumption that a state issued I.D. is the only possible way to do this. That's probably because you are so used to using your I.D. for everything from check cashing to buying sinus medicine. It is not the only way though and that's what our voting history shows us. We run super clean elections with the system for registration and identification that's been in place.