Israel at War?

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Originally Posted by Guister

I am not smart or educated on this. I am not a scholar.

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We noticed.

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Originally Posted by Seran

The only legitimate fact of your first sentence is that Biden is the current president. No one 'gave' Iran anything, that was money held in South Korean banks from oil purchased by South Korean from Iran that was released. Second, none of that six billion dollars has been spent, why, because of the rigorous conditions on spending that was placed on the account where the money was deposited. So we're back to your original statement; Biden is President.

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This is the dumbest argument anyone can make, even for you. Do you really not understand how than can quickly pivot and take their existing streams of spending and shift them into their war effort because they now have 6b that they can put towards their food/medicine?

Seran: What does "fungible" mean?

Also if Biden didn't "give" Iran the 6 billion dollars because Iran "owned" that 6 billion to begin with, why did Biden do a prisoner exchange with Iran as a stipulation for the 6 billion dollars being released?

Seran it's okay if you don't know much about politics. But can you leave the politics to the adults who do?

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Originally Posted by Guister

I am not smart or educated on this. I am not a scholar. But I am trying to work this out because perhaps diplomacy can curb the impact of war. To understand Palestine's point of view and side is to pave the way for possible mediation, which seems impossible.

But really, if you were kicked off your land and told to fuck off, how would you feel?

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I can respect this and you are right, the root of the issue is the ownership of the land Israel sits on was not always Israel. Depending how deep down the rabbit hold you want to go the Rothchilds are on record saying that they made it happen which makes sense as they control the central banking system that controls the world and have funded both sides of pretty much every war. On top of that it seems like Israel was about to build a new Temple on top of an ancient muslim mosque site. This is why I am avoiding trying to say either side is to blame, however one side is at least acting in a civilized manor and one side is not. In this regard I support Israel defending its borders and protecting its citizens. The problem is that the Hamas and other terror organizations like to use civilians as cover, setting up their command centers and other important strategic sites in major urban centers, residential high-rises, schools and hospitals. There is no good way through this, no good outcome.


The thing that should scare everyone is that there is zero reason this cant happen in the US given the stream of military aged migrants walking across our border. I hope you all have a way to protect the ones you love.

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Originally Posted by Anebriated

I can respect this and you are right, the root of the issue is the ownership of the land Israel sits on was not always Israel. Depending how deep down the rabbit hold you want to go the Rothchilds are on record saying that they made it happen which makes sense as they control the central banking system that controls the world and have funded both sides of pretty much every war. On top of that it seems like Israel was about to build a new Temple on top of an ancient muslim mosque site. This is why I am avoiding trying to say either side is to blame, however one side is at least acting in a civilized manor and one side is not. In this regard I support Israel defending its borders and protecting its citizens. The problem is that the Hamas and other terror organizations like to use civilians as cover, setting up their command centers and other important strategic sites in major urban centers, residential high-rises, schools and hospitals. There is no good way through this, no good outcome.


The thing that should scare everyone is that there is zero reason this cant happen in the US given the stream of military aged migrants walking across our border. I hope you all have a way to protect the ones you love.

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I’ll say it. Fuck Hamas & the Palestinians. They are multigenerational refugees. It’s time to give up their claim that they lost long ago by right of conquest. Assimilate or get out.

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Originally Posted by Guister

If the United States mlitary wasn't backing Israel, it would get swarmed from every single angle (east and west) and it would cease to exist. That land was "given" to them by the United States government after WW2. How can you refute this?

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Eh…it was more so Great Britain that helped found the modern nation of Israel. None of the European countries wanted to take in a bunch of Jewish refugees displaced by WW2 & they kinda deserved a place to call home after what happened to them.

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Originally Posted by Guister

I am not smart or educated on this. I am not a scholar.

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Truer words have never been typed out by you before.

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But I am trying to work this out because perhaps diplomacy can curb the impact of war. To understand Palestine's point of view and side is to pave the way for possible mediation, which seems impossible.

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Palestine doesn't want their own country.. they don't want to negotiate peace... they have been calling for the extermination of jews and the country of Israel for centuries.

How do you negotiate with a mindset like that?

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But really, if you were kicked off your land and told to fuck off, how would you feel?

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Be tough enough not to get kicked off your land to begin with.

wait until we find out exactly how many members of US congress are dual citizens with Israel, 75%? This isnt going to be cheap for the US and feels like the perfect pivot from Ukraine.

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Originally Posted by Solkern

Oh got it! There was a clause in that peace agreement “void of Biden becomes president” is that right?

Is this you just trying to gaslight your way out of Trump never brought peace to the Middle East, and I’ll just blame Biden for it?

What about all the Missile strikes and killings in the Middle East, after the peace agreement and before Biden became president? Is that peace, or that doesn’t count? What’s your excuse for that? “The Middle East knew Biden would become president”?

Fucking hilarious.

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Was the world in general more peaceful under Trump than it's been since Biden's been in office?

You can say it's all just one great big coincidence as the reason(s) why for all I care, but try to include a definitive "yes" or "no" somewhere in your answer.

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Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~

And the State Department confirms that Hamas has kidnapped Americans and reports say they slaughtered some German tourists too.

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I can't imagine anyone with a fully functional brain waking up one day and being like, "Going on vacation to Israel (or anywhere in the Middle East) sounds like a fantastic idea!"

It's like going on a game show and winning an all expenses paid trip to Compton as the grand prize.