One article I read claimed ~3 weeks, with the food stored in those new freezers. They're gigantic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
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One article I read claimed ~3 weeks, with the food stored in those new freezers. They're gigantic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
I was guessing around a month.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
They're highly specialized machines from 1990. They're not going to be cheap. Not to mention since it's AF1 they have to go through the military's procurement procedures.
They also aren't really mass produced. There aren't factories configured to make those specific friges.
Chuck Todd asked a good question in his intro this morning on Meet the Press. After the leak that Trump tried to fire Mueller, why was it so easy for every news network to get quick private off-the-record confirmation of that fact from the White House, even while the President denied it publicly?
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What's not so predictable is what happens next, the attempted firing has prompted many questions: who leaked the story about President Trump's intentions and why? Why was it so easy for news organizations to quickly match the Times' scoop unless someone wanted this story out? And was it a sign that President Trump is, again, considering the dismissal of Mueller? Is it a warning to him to not to do it? Or was this a trial balloon to see if he can?
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Ken Starr, the special prosecutor who referred Bill Clinton to the House for impeachment, was on ABC's This Week today. He mostly said that, based on what is publicly known about Trump's behavior with Comey and Mueller, he does not believe Trump committed the crime of obstruction of justice. Then Martha Raddatz asked Starr about Trump lying to the public..
Lying to the public is not a crime, of course. I did not realize that it was grounds for impeachment, nor did I realize it was part of the basis for the impeachment of Bill Clinton.Quote:
RADDATZ: Mr. Starr -- Mr. Starr, I want to -- I want to jump in, here. I want to ask you about -- you talked about lying, you talked about President Clinton. I want to ask you about President Trump’s public denial that he’d -- he had even thought of firing Robert Mueller.
One of the reasons you cited is grounds for impeachment against President Clinton was Clinton’s public denials of having sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. You wrote the president made and caused to be made false statements to the American people about his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky by publicly and emphatically stating in January 1998 that I did not have sexual relations with that woman, and these allegations are false.
The president also effectively delayed a possible congressional inquiry. This represents substantial and credible (ph) information that may constitute grounds for an impeachment. If the reports are correct that President Trump sought to have Mueller fired, then his public denial would be false.
So would that be grounds for impeachment?
STARR: I think lying to the American people is a serious issue that has to be explored. I take lying to the American people very, very seriously. So absolutely, I think – what Dan was talking about was this effort to get rid of the investigation.
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Anything that the House wants to bring charges for can be grounds for impeachment, it should indeed be a crime, however if lying to the public is a crime, then Obama needs to be hauled off because "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor"Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
Clinton was prosecuted for perjury under oath to a grand jury. Not lying to the people. Starr wants to get paid for his appearance.
Hillary also lied under oath to Congress. So, the Dems need to think seriously about wanting to haul up Trump on this bullshit. Also, to impeach, it will take a majority in the house and then over 60 in the senate to convict. Amazingly unlikely with this economy that they can win enough seats. All this is doing is hurting their cause and deflecting from real issues. Also, if they gained a warrant by false means, it kind of invalidates any other evidence Mueller gets on anyone.
It's a shit show and nothing the Dems can do will change it, Mueller is damaged, the investigation is a joke and the FBI looks like many members drank the cool aid to cover for Hillary. Their reputation is shot to hell with this.
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Originally Posted by ClydeR
From Nixon's Articles of Impleachment:
8. making or causing to be made false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States into believing that a thorough and complete investigation had been conducted with respect to allegations of misconduct on the part of personnel of the executive branch of the United States and personnel of the Committee for the Re-election of the President, and that there was no involvement of such personnel in such misconduct
Stop eating lead paint chips.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
We can all agree that President Obama is in serious trouble... whoops!!! Obama is no longer President, and is Constitutionally ineligible to run for President again. Ha! Ha! I guess we should stop whining about other people, after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
We can definitely agree that President Hilary Clinton is also in big trouble... WHOO-OOPS!!! Ha! Ha! Hilary Clinton is not actually President. I guess we should stop whining about other people, after all.Quote:
Hillary also lied under oath to Congress. So, the Dems need to think seriously about wanting to haul up Trump on this bullshit.
In fact precisely 67 Senators are required to convict, but as always you are missing the point. What if the Republicans foresee a bloodletting in the midterms, as is usually the case for the party controlling the Presidency? What if they further realize that a billionaire New York banker is not much of a Republican anyway, and shed themselves of him and his Vice so as to secure the Presidency for at least another two years? You don't think Paul Ryan or worst case Michael Pence would be far more suited to the goals of the Republican establishment? Keep dreaming.Quote:
Also, to impeach, it will take a majority in the house and then over 60 in the senate to convict. Amazingly unlikely with this economy that they can win enough seats. All this is doing is hurting their cause and deflecting from real issues.