Russia Investigation Heating Up

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Originally Posted by Fortybox

Isn't going to happen. Next topic: soybeans for soywolf

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No soybeans. Apparently there's a tariff? Anyway it's fucking up progress on NK. Who knew global affairs could be so complicated

BTW: 2 f's in soywolff

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Originally Posted by cwolff

No soybeans. Apparently there's a tariff? Anyway it's fucking up progress on NK. Who knew global affairs could be so complicated

BTW: 2 f's in soywolff

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Saw this floating around today too:

Rep. Ted Lieu says the reason President Trump would want to pardon Paul Manafort "is because he doesn’t want Paul Manafort to flip on him and give information to the government -- that would also be obstruction of justice."


Short of a full and open accounting about his actions it will be very difficult for trump to prove that he didn't obstruct justice if those charges are brought. For one thing, we've seen him tamper with witnesses going back to Sally Yates and we've seen him bitch out his AG for not killing the investigation into Russian interference.

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Why would Manafort "flip" now? That's dumb.

Also you and Lieu are quite possibly the dumbest people to ever live to think the president using his pardoning powers is "obstruction of justice." I guess this is the nonsense time4fun was alluding to earlier about Mueller taking Trump to court for pardoning Manafort.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

Why would Manafort "flip" now? That's dumb.

Also you and Lieu are quite possibly the dumbest people to ever live to think the president using his pardoning powers is "obstruction of justice." I guess this is the nonsense time4fun was alluding to earlier about Mueller taking Trump to court for pardoning Manafort.

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Maybe Trump could pardon his stupidity.

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Originally Posted by Fortybox

Maybe Trump could pardon his stupidity.

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Gonna need a miracle to cure him of his stupidity.

Yeah, why would Manafort cooperate with the feds instead of spending the rest of his life in prison.

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Originally Posted by Koars Light

My general legal question is can the defense make a deal with the prosecution after the trial and verdict? Any law folks in the house?

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Not a lawyer but I've seen multiple other lawyers say that Manafort can make a deal with the prosecutors at any time, even now.

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Originally Posted by Androidpk

Not a lawyer but I've seen multiple other lawyers say that Manafort can make a deal with the prosecutors at any time, even now.

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He can, but it won't undo the sentence that's already been rendered. Remember, separation of powers. The Executive doesn't have any say in sentencing.

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Originally Posted by Androidpk

Not a lawyer but I've seen multiple other lawyers say that Manafort can make a deal with the prosecutors at any time, even now.

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Originally Posted by time4fun

He can, but it won't undo the sentence that's already been rendered. Remember, separation of powers. The Executive doesn't have any say in sentencing.

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True. He hasn't been sentenced yet though, by Ellis, so if he wants the best deal possible he better act fast.