Terrorists break into US Capitol Building

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Originally Posted by time4fun

OH and the foundation! Remember how Clinton was a horrible person who was using a public foundation with her name on it as a "pay to play"/"slush fund" scheme despite no actual evidence of it?

And then remember how it turns out Trump's private foundation actually was being used as a pay to play/slush fund scheme and got shut down?

Not a peep from Republicans.

There have just been so many of these situations, it's really hard to keep track of them all.

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Don't forget the private email servers for conducting official business. Let's kindly overlook that Trump and his children are all constantly doing this to keep information out of the public record.

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Originally Posted by time4fun

So you just saying "I was sort of, kind of involved in or two things I won't actually identify, and so you're wrong" is an argument without an actual argument.

Controlled is being in a state where you refuse to consume any news that doesn't come from hyper partisan, far right sources because they've told you that all sources that *aren't* hyper partisan and far right are secretly trying to trick you. That's what being controlled looks like.

And let's be blunt here: any time someone tells a conservative they're wrong or tells them no, there's immediately some grand conspiracy theory about how someone, some thing, some organization, some industry is secretly out to get conservatives. Can you give me an example of Trump being criticized or conservative ideology being questioned where there wasn't some corresponding paranoid conspiracy theory making conservatives out to be innocent victims?



Let's look at just some of the stuff floating around right now:

1) A global pandemic comes to town that threatens hundreds of thousands of lives and our entire medical infrastructure. Everyone else is trying to keep us safe, and Republicans decide it's a "democratic hoax", and the WHO is part of the hoax (and apparently literally every government and medical organization in the world is in on it), and the CDC is making up numbers because hospitals are secretly out to get more money, oh and the vaccines will rewrite your DNA or have microchips or whatever insane thing they're running with today.

2) Non-partisan Fact Checkers tell Conservatives they're wrong sometimes. But Conservatives can't be wrong obviously, so those fact checkers are part of a secret liberal plot to trick you and make conservatives look bad!

3) Ditto on all non-partisan media, which doesn't really exist apparently because all journalists are secretly liberals with liberal agendas that are more important than being journalists I guess?

4) Social Media platforms finally start removing accounts and Pages that spread misinformation and promote violence....BUT ACTUALLY that's just a cover for their coordinated Silicon Valley attack on conservatives!

5) Parler gets booted by several vendors as the next step in the Silicon Valley fascist attack on conservatives and not, for example, because it refused to follow its ToS with them and allowed people to plan terrorist activity on the platform with no attempts to remove the content...which turned into an actual domestic terrorist insurrection.

6) Trump lost the election, so there must have been the largest and most complex massive voter fraud campaign in American history that included cooperation from every single Democratic alive, every county election official, every Republican election official in states Trump lost, Dominion, and almost 90 Judges (roughly half of which were appointed by Republicans, several by Trump himself). Yeah, sure, Republicans on every level (Including Trump) all massively outperformed the polling, but c'mon...it's so obvious what happened, right?

7) Trump incites his supporters to violence on the same day and at exact time that Congress is certifying the election he lost, then he points them to the Capitol and tells them this is their last chance to save their country. BUT obviously the real attack was a false flag operation by Antifa. Or BLM. Or Communists or whatever. Worst part is the FBI came out and said "Actually no, it was Trump supporters". So obviously the government was in on this too.

8) The DoJ refuses to prosecute Clinton and other political opponents of Trump? Then it has the nerve to ACTUALLY investigate a campaign with dozens of contacts with the foreign enemy who had run the largest election interference campaign in US history to get that campaign elected?? Well obviously there's a massive deep state cabal in the government out to get Trump!

9) BLM is secretly a Marxist operation to attack America!!11!. I mean come on, someone uncovered footage of 3 people who helped start it saying they were "Trained Marxists" in some unknown context. Okay yeah, none of them are involved anymore, and BLM doesn't really have centralized leadership. Oh and Marx is fundamentally incompatible with the beliefs of BLM. BUT...BUT...COMMUNISTS PEOPLE!

10) Oh, and Democrats are part of a secret Satanic cult of cannibals who prey on children. Clinton herself was a big part of it because...there's a pizza shop somewhere out there I guess?

11) Sandy Hook obviously wasn't a real shooting. And clearly the families and friends of the people who died and were otherwise terrorized couldn't be THAT mad. Any idiot can see they hired protesters to pretend they were mad.

12) Russia definitely didn't hack our elections oh and over 250 government agencies. The entire State Department, the FBI, the CIA, every private security firm looking into this, and every major Academic researcher looking into this are all just trying to make Trump look bad (somehow?), and it was OBVIOUSLY China.

13) Democrats trying to give people health care? NO. They're trying to turn us into a communist country and will be killing people off (mostly conservatives) with death panels! Sure there's nothing in the ACA about death panels deciding people can't get care, and yeah the core concept of the ACA is what the Heritage Foundation recommended. But still. COMMUNISM. DEATH PANELS.

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Originally Posted by Jeril

Sad that you blame it on Trump, not everyone who is ultimately responsible for him being there in the first place. Which is, us, the American people.

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Why stop there? Blame the English. The Pilgrims in particular.

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Originally Posted by Alfster

Well I mean, the activities at the Capitol would be what I'd expect and in much larger numbers if an election was actually stolen.

So these people believe, truly believe it was stolen, even tho there's no evidence. Wtf do you do with that kind of stupidity?

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That's sort of the question of the decade. These people are mired in conspiracy theories and have been conditioned to treat any voice of dissent as an attack. Non-partisan news, government agencies, fact checkers, etc. They're all secretly out to get conservatives and to trick them.

I spend a lot of time comparing news stories on the right with non-partisan news stories, and they routinely leave out mountains of information on the right to avoid having to discuss it. If you're getting your news exclusively from them, you're dealing with 50% of the facts at best. And no new facts from other sources will be tolerated.

So there's no reaching them.

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Originally Posted by time4fun

Yeah they do this a lot. It's the go-to strategy to change the subject from politics when they know they're backed in a corner.

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Oh hey look, another piece of shit Democrat defending a child predator because he "votes blue no matter who!"

Fuck you.

It looks more and more like they had inside help.

• The riot may have been coordinated with the help of at least three far-right U.S. Representatives: Andy Biggs, AZ, Mo Brooks, AL, and Paul Gosar, AZ.

• Democratic Rep. Mikie Sherrill, NJ said she saw GOP "colleagues leading groups on "reconnaissance" tours of the building" a day before the riot.

• "One freshman lawmaker, Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), is also facing criticism for tweeting about the location of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) while the Capitol was under siege," reports The Washington Post.

• "Several Capitol Police officers have also been suspended and more than a dozen others are being investigated for suspected ties to rioters or for showing inappropriate support for last week's attempted insurrection," reports the Post.

• "The attack on the Capitol was coordinated and planned. Here are the insurrectionists talking about the plan, including detailed schematics of the Capitol building."

• Rep. Ayanna Pressley's chief of staff, Sarah Groh, said the panic buttons in her office had been removed. From the Post:

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As people rushed out of other buildings on the Capitol grounds, staffers in Pressley's office barricaded the entrance with furniture and water jugs that had piled up during the pandemic. Groh pulled out gas masks and looked for the special panic buttons in the office.
"Every panic button in my office had been torn out — the whole unit," she said, though they could come up with no rationale as to why. She had used them before and hadn't switched offices since then.

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Originally Posted by Back

It looks more and more like they had inside help.

• The riot may have been coordinated with the help of at least three far-right U.S. Representatives: Andy Biggs, AZ, Mo Brooks, AL, and Paul Gosar, AZ.

• Democratic Rep. Mikie Sherrill, NJ said she saw GOP "colleagues leading groups on "reconnaissance" tours of the building" a day before the riot.

• "One freshman lawmaker, Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), is also facing criticism for tweeting about the location of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) while the Capitol was under siege," reports The Washington Post.

• "Several Capitol Police officers have also been suspended and more than a dozen others are being investigated for suspected ties to rioters or for showing inappropriate support for last week's attempted insurrection," reports the Post.

• "The attack on the Capitol was coordinated and planned. Here are the insurrectionists talking about the plan, including detailed schematics of the Capitol building."

• Rep. Ayanna Pressley's chief of staff, Sarah Groh, said the panic buttons in her office had been removed. From the Post:

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The evening of January 20, 2021:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHQo8mjMge0

Uncle Joe's staff at his passing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBeU7o6DODI

Uncle Joe's staff at the funeral:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--HXlMZvdl8

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Originally Posted by Methais

On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the creepiest, how creeped out by you do you think PB's daughter would be if she knew about all that?

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2. She seemed pretty cool and would probably be like “well this Keller dude was right - my dad is a loser.”