Yes, Hillary's server was targeted that very day, not just people in her campaign. And spear phishing is very much considered hacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
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Yes, Hillary's server was targeted that very day, not just people in her campaign. And spear phishing is very much considered hacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
https://www.vox.com/2018/7/13/175688...ment-full-textQuote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Vox sucks but it was the first site I found where I could do a search of the indictment itself.
Bottom of page 7 and continuing to page 8:
The Conspirators spearphished individuals af?liated with the Clinton Campaign throughout the summer of 2016. For example, on or about July 27, 2016, the Conspirators attempted after hours to spearphish for the ?rst time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clinton?s personal of?ce. At or around the same time, they also targeted seventy-six email addresses at the domain for the Clinton Campaign.
"A domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clinton's personal office."
That's not Hillary's personal server. Although to be fair I suppose Hillary could have also had an email account at this domain, but we all know she was using her private server so she could have full control.
And also we're really stretching what "hacking" means if we're considering spear phishing a hack. Especially when we're talking about what people generally think of when they think of a hack. Technically guessing someone's password on the first try would be considered a "hack" but let's get real.
Yeah, that's why any of the big hacking conferences like DEFCON have entire talks and workshops on phishing. That's why kali linux and metasploit have numerous phishing hacking tools. GG
Well yeah, it's definitely an attempt to gain access to someone's account and it's a computer security issue. But it's far from what we generally consider to be "hacking" someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Since I feel bad for you, pk, I'll meet you halfway: you are technically correct that spear phishing is a "hack", but it's not generally what literally the entire world thinks of when they think of someone being hacked.
Let's check the ol' scoreboard:
Tgo01: 1,829,488
Androidpk: 0.5
Hackers consider phishing to be hacking, doesn't matter what your ignorant opinion is.
It's getting kind of tiresome having to correct your misleading posts and otherwise outright lies :lol:
So now you are a computer security expert or some shit? Seriously, shut the fuck up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
I don't consider myself an expert but I do work in the cyber security field and attend such conferences.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Look what happens when I try to be nice to the moron.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Since you seem to think DEFCON has the final say in what is an is not a "hack" let's go right to the source:
https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2...ngineering.pdf
Here they list Phishing under: "Phishing, social network exploits or other forms of social engineering."
https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2...neering-WP.pdf
Here they also list Phishing as "social engineering":
https://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-2...-speakers.htmlQuote:
Social engineering, particularly phishing, is one of the oldest yet still most effective weapons for exploitation.
Another link where they refer to it as "social engineering."
Looks like we're gonna have to update the scoreboard:
Tgo01: 1,829,488
Androidpk: -0.5
I had to take a full point away for how badly you've embarrassed yourself these past few posts.
You've gone full retard, tgo. Social engineering is a huge subset of hacking. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
I already said technically phishing is hacking but it's not generally a hack one thinks of when we are talking about a server being "hacked."Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Come on, pk, just stop while you're behind already. Gonna have to drop you down to -1.5 points now.
Oh wait, almost forgot you "corrected" me that Hillary's server was hacked then got awfully quiet when I showed you the indictment itself showing you were wrong. No wonder you are clinging to this minor victory so hard. Gonna have to drop you down to -1,389,482 points for that one.
I wonder if pk is claiming to be some sort of hacking wiz so we'll all think this is how he's getting his information on Methais and Parkbandit.
Androidpk: from bum living on friend's couch to super hacker in a matter of 3 years!