Russia Investigation Heating Up

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Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~

What does Grassley say about Hillary who lied to Congress a couple of times?



LOL! I love how you and your other con-conspirators talk as if you are all above the fray and on some moral high ground. It's amusing to see you talking as if you are superior and have some inside knowledge and you are somehow disconnected with the PC's peasant rabble. It suits you all since you are so completely disconnected from reality it really demonstrates the mental gymnastics that one must go through to claim conspiracy while supporting a candidate that genuinely conspired with the media and her party to rig the primaries, rig the election debates and apparently pay to use inside connections to have the opposing candidate's campaign wire tapped, a paid information dossier and an online article about the leaked, paid dossier used to obtain the warrant for the wire tap and who's candidate destroyed subpoenaed evidence in an ongoing Federal investigation because it would show that she mishandled multiple pieces of classified data.

It really suggests that you all have had some kind of mental break and are now living even more deeply in your fantasy world where Socialism is grand, America is evil and Democrats aren't generally racists who protect criminals over American Citizens.

BTW, you calling anyone out over arguing about the meaning of words is supremely amusing considering your continued contortions when caught in a plan lie.

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My super secret sources told me that they heard from their anonymous source that pk heard Hillary masturbating and didn't complain about it.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Fuck dude. Learn to collect your thoughts in a snapshot instead of a feature film.

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For real, you should know that cwolff can't handle anything longer than a tweet.

Stop being so inconsiderate to the disabled, Rocktar.

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Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~

https://youtu.be/_8oNUk99hdg

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Daaamn, diethx doesn't fuck around when she's fucking around.

Kind of creepy for pk to record it like that though. But it's pk, so no one is surprised.

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Originally Posted by Gelston

His approval ratings among the people that elected him are ranging between 84 and 90%. It is almost like he is doing exactly what we voted for him to do.

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So, first- you don't win an election with just your base in this country. Secondly, I'd be very careful about stats like that. You're assuming that political identification is a stable quality, and it's not. GOP party identification has fallen 3-5 points since 2016 (which is significant given that only about a quarter of people identify as Republicans in this country). So when you see polls that say "85% of Republicans support Trump!"- what that means is that most of the people who don't have stopped identifying as Republicans.

On top of that, independents are breaking away from Trump significantly. Right now, the only demographic that reliably supports Trump is the Republican-identified voting bloc. Support from white suburban women (who actually broke for Trump in 2016) has dropped 8 points and appears to be in free fall right now.

Let's just call a spade a spade here: draconian voter suppression, extreme gerrymandering, and Russian state influence only go so far.

Finally, incumbent Presidential approval tends to drop once there's an actual contender in the race. When you're comparing someone to nothing, it's easier for them to get lukewarm approval. When there's another option, partisans solidify their support/disapproval, but independents tend to break away from the incumbent.

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Originally Posted by time4fun

So, first- you don't win an election with just your base in this country. Secondly, I'd be very careful about stats like that. You're assuming that political identification is a stable quality, and it's not. GOP party identification has fallen 3-5 points since 2016 (which is significant given that only about a quarter of people identify as Republicans in this country). So when you see polls that say "85% of Republicans support Trump!"- what that means is that most of the people who don't have stopped identifying as Republicans.

On top of that, independents are breaking away from Trump significantly. Right now, the only demographic that reliably supports Trump is the Republican-identified voting bloc. Support from white suburban women (who actually broke for Trump in 2016) has dropped 8 points and appears to be in free fall right now.

Let's just call a spade a spade here: draconian voter suppression, extreme gerrymandering, and Russian state influence only go so far.

Finally, incumbent Presidential approval tends to drop once there's an actual contender in the race. When you're comparing someone to nothing, it's easier for them to get lukewarm approval. When there's another option, partisans solidify their support/disapproval, but independents tend to break away from the incumbent.

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No, the point I was making is that polls are fucking garbage and easily manipulated. You need to stop relying on them so much.

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Collusion is not a crime, but that doesn’t matter because there was No Collusion (except by Crooked Hillary and the Democrats)!

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From everyone's favorite President.

Guess what- people who don't engage in a particular activity don't feel the need to convince everyone that it's not illegal to do it. (Also, so we're clear, what he did is absolutely illegal)

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Originally Posted by time4fun

From everyone's favorite President.

Guess what- people who don't engage in a particular activity don't feel the need to convince everyone that it's not illegal to do it. (Also, so we're clear, what he did is absolutely illegal)

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I mean, he didn't. You people keep saying he did, forcing him to deny it more.

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Originally Posted by time4fun

So, first- you don't win an election with just your base in this country. Secondly, I'd be very careful about stats like that. You're assuming that political identification is a stable quality, and it's not. GOP party identification has fallen 3-5 points since 2016 (which is significant given that only about a quarter of people identify as Republicans in this country). So when you see polls that say "85% of Republicans support Trump!"- what that means is that most of the people who don't have stopped identifying as Republicans.

On top of that, independents are breaking away from Trump significantly. Right now, the only demographic that reliably supports Trump is the Republican-identified voting bloc. Support from white suburban women (who actually broke for Trump in 2016) has dropped 8 points and appears to be in free fall right now.

Let's just call a spade a spade here: draconian voter suppression, extreme gerrymandering, and Russian state influence only go so far.

Finally, incumbent Presidential approval tends to drop once there's an actual contender in the race. When you're comparing someone to nothing, it's easier for them to get lukewarm approval. When there's another option, partisans solidify their support/disapproval, but independents tend to break away from the incumbent.

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Originally Posted by Gelston

No, the point I was making is that polls are fucking garbage and easily manipulated. You need to stop relying on them so much.

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Some of them are, but they're not all garbage by any stretch. 2016 got a bad rap, but realistically the polls actually weren't that off (or off at all in many cases). They mostly indicated that Clinton would win the popular vote by 2-5%, and she won by 3%. What WAS wrong was the analysis of the polls- assumptions were made about a few states based on very little polling data (and virtually no high quality polling data). Polls usually look at popular vote, analysts then extrapolate to the electoral college.

Also, people didn't quite account for the new voter suppression laws that went into effect in a few key states and that pesky Russian state influence campaign.

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Originally Posted by time4fun

Some of them are, but they're not all garbage by any stretch. 2016 got a bad rap, but realistically the polls actually weren't that off (or off at all in many cases). They mostly indicated that Clinton would win the popular vote by 2-5%, and she won by 3%. What WAS wrong was the analysis of the polls- assumptions were made about a few states based on very little polling data (and virtually no high quality polling data). Polls usually look at popular vote, analysts then extrapolate to the electoral college.

Also, people didn't quite account for the new voter suppression laws that went into effect in a few key states and that pesky Russian state influence campaign.

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Oh yeah, all those voter suppression laws that are everywhere.