Taliban taking over Afghanistan

normally I ignore your idiocy, but seriously? Even for you this is plumbing new lows.

No, Obama traded 5 prisoners from Guantanamo Bay for the return of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was ultimately court-martialed and pleaded guilty to desertion and misbehavior before the enemy. In 2017, he was sentenced to a dishonorable discharge. Last year, the US military’s top appeals court upheld the conviction against him.

Khairullah Khairkhwa the Taliban mullah whom Obama released from Gitmo even though the Pentagon classified him as too dangerous to release. Earlier this year, Khairullah Khairkhwa, actually sat across the table from President Biden’s envoy to Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, in Moscow, where Khairkhwa was part of the official Taliban delegation that negotiated the final terms of the US withdrawal. The retreat cleared a path for the Taliban to retake power after 20 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowe_Bergdahl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban_Five

Or maybe you would care to explain how Trump did this in June of 2014, remind us who was President in 2014? If you need to take your shoes off to count that high, I'll wait.

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Originally Posted by Slider's Non-Sequitur

normally I ignore your idiocy, but seriously? Even for you this is plumbing new lows.

No, Obama traded 5 prisoners from Guantanamo Bay for the return of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was ultimately court-martialed and pleaded guilty to desertion and misbehavior before the enemy. In 2017, he was sentenced to a dishonorable discharge. Last year, the US military’s top appeals court upheld the conviction against him.

Khairullah Khairkhwa the Taliban mullah whom Obama released from Gitmo even though the Pentagon classified him as too dangerous to release. Earlier this year, Khairullah Khairkhwa, actually sat across the table from President Biden’s envoy to Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, in Moscow, where Khairkhwa was part of the official Taliban delegation that negotiated the final terms of the US withdrawal. The retreat cleared a path for the Taliban to retake power after 20 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowe_Bergdahl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban_Five

Or maybe you would care to explain how Trump did this in June of 2014, remind us who was President in 2014? If you need to take your shoes off to count that high, I'll wait.

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Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, widely expected to be the next Taliban-appointed leader of Afghanistan, was released from prison in Pakistan due to negotiation by the Trump administration as part of their surrender deal.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-talib...ee-11629154710

Your wishes don't change reality, and neither does your slew of irrelevant nonsense that has no bearing on anything that I said. Remind us who was president in 2018 when the US government lobbied for his release? If you need to take your shoes off to count that high, I'll wait. Dipshit.

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Originally Posted by Seran

FACTS:
Former President Donald J Trump negotiated with our enemies a retreat from Afghanistan. This one-sided agreement do not involve the legitimate government of Afghanistan and thus destroy the credibility of that government. This has been known for a year and cited by both Republicans and Democrats.
Donald Trump did not give orders to his State Department to start arranging evacuations of Americans in the 9 months he was in office and acting under his Agreement with the Enemy.
Donald Trump did not prepare our Afghanistan allies for American departure in those 9 months further worsening their position. All of the equipment left in Afghanistan is the result of Donald Trump's failed leadership.
President Biden put together a plan in the six months he has been in office and successfully got us out of Afghanistan despite the nonsense that Donald J Trump created

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the legitimate government of Afghanistan

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Tell us more about how a puppet government installed by a foreign invader is a "legitimate government".

Just because you don't recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan, the Afghan people do.

Perhaps after Jan. 6th, had Democrats first order of business not been gender pronouns and flying the pride flag over the US embassies, which has pissed off other countries besides Afghanistan, they could have focused on an organized withdraw.

This administration has been behind on everything but at least we have Jen Psaki playing office with fingernail boy to show for it.

P.S. I can't wait for sleepy Joe to cure cancer.

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Originally Posted by Taernath

Afghanistan was the perfect playground for defense contractors because it was off the radar of most Americans for so long. 90% of the outrage being ginned up is the death throes of that particular grift being exposed.

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Exactly.

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

Tell us more about how a puppet government installed by a foreign invader is a "legitimate government".

Just because you don't recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan, the Afghan people do.

Perhaps after Jan. 6th, had Democrats first order of business not been gender pronouns and flying the pride flag over the US embassies, which has pissed off other countries besides Afghanistan, they could have focused on an organized withdraw.

This administration has been behind on everything but at least we have Jen Psaki playing office with fingernail boy to show for it.

P.S. I can't wait for sleepy Joe to cure cancer.

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"Nnhgh, Donald Trump fucked up the country so bad that we're needed a real leader to fix all of his mistakes." - Neveragain

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Originally Posted by Alfster

I just would think therea a bit of Personal responsibility in all of this

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If you're saying the "personal responsibility" was trusting Biden then you are correct for a change.

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Originally Posted by Seran

"Nnhgh, Donald Trump fucked up the country so bad that we're needed a real leader to fix all of his mistakes." - Neveragain

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"Gender pronouns and pride flags were more important than organizing a withdraw from Afghanistan." ~ Seran

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Originally Posted by Slider

normally I ignore your idiocy,

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This should be a hard fast rule for always and everyone.. not just normally.

And if you need to respond to it, just do that in the specially padded cell I created for it.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthrea...d-for-Ashliana

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

This should be a hard fast rule for always and everyone.. not just normally.

And if you need to respond to it, just do that in the specially padded cell I created for it.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthrea...d-for-Ashliana

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Translation: "Although you couldn't come up with a substantive reply, how about participating in my 7-month long meltdown? I feel slightly less obsessed with Ashliana when other people indulge me."

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

Is it not our job to get Afghanis that helped us over the past 20 years, out of the country before they are hunted down and killed? Do you believe they are just on vacation there?.

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I mean. Who voted against a expedited visas for those folks? Oh right. 16 of those individuals who are now claiming they're super upset how everything went down.

But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking specifically about the folks who are united states citizens that travelled there willingly. That is 100% on them. Whether they were there for personal travel, or to push Christianity or wtf ever. They have to own that decision.