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I'm not familiar with this journalist and don't understand what this has to do with climate change reports. I'll grant you that there are probably plenty of a-hole journalists writing about ACC. They are bathwater, the science is the baby.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I thought of a more concise explanation, and I am all about concision:
That's the dumbest m*****f***ing G****** piece of s*** idea ever. J**** C*****! What a s***** idea. ********************* idea, a real *******.
IS NOT ad hominem
My opponent is a good man and I respect him, but he has been known to not refill the ice cube tray. In light of this, can we take his ideas seriously? Respectfully, I say no.
IS ad hominem
cwolff made no claim; he basically insinuated we shouldn't listen to the Greenpeace guy because now he's a shill for energy companies. Isn't that an ad hominem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Face it, Latrin, you're out of your league here. Your terrible fashion sense says it all.
I'm not sure you understood the point of the show. It wasn't necessarily that climate change is fake or that environmentalists are crazy, it was more about a lot of so called environmentalists have no idea what they are even fighting for and how political groups have taken over these movements and how the movement is mostly "anti corporation" instead of "pro environment."Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
And my point is you have a problem with someone being a "shill" for energy companies yet don't seem to have problems with this journalist or people like Al Gore who make money off of their alarmist rhetoric. So it's okay for people to make money off of this movement, just as long as they agree with you.
Am I right? Am I right?
I didn't watch the whole program though I'm more than willing to admit that the overall quality of it's journalism was low. Kind of like JayWalking with an anti-ACC agenda?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Moore's not a great source. Being a shill is his job. Would you want Jay Carney to be the go to guy for an in-depth piece on integrity in Obama's white house? I'm not begrudging Moore his career, but he's not a very good source.
It wasn't anti-ACC, it was anti-dumbass rainbow children who don't have any idea what they're fighting for. That said, you can pick any topic you want and find people who passionately believe in it and have no clue wtf they're talking about. Idiots abound.
You can also edit anything to make someone look stupid. That happens all the time too. The vid was more or less a call for rationality about climate change. It was a fluff piece, but I didn't mind it- I also happen to dig penn and teller.
The Dude Abounds. Right on.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
Which energy companies is he a shill for, exactly?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Anyone who hires him. He's been doing it for 22 years. Unfortunately they don't talk about that when they introduce him on Fox. They just highlight that he was a co-founder of Greenpeace, which he wasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I had a feeling your answer was basically going to amount to "all of them!"Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
How can you call him a "shill" for energy companies yet not name one energy company he is a shill for?
Your tie is bad therefore your arguments are all bad!
Words with Tg again? PC should make an app for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01