George Floyd killing and the aftermath

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

Muscle up buttercup.




Dude, what?

Did you want to share the neg rep comment you gave me out of the blue a couple days ago?

You are literally nothing more than a mouth breathing, hypocritical douchebag. You want to take the high road, but we both know you can't afford the tolls.

Sealion somewhere else, dipshit

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Except when I first posted again, I stated that I sent shitty messages to several of you. You're welcome to share it, and I acknowledge it was ugly and hateful and wrong, and while I don't remember the specifics it was something about you sucking and taking Trump's micro penis. I reflected on it, and realized I was taking some personal shit out on you guys and after reading several posts I got pretty charged up. I don't agree with a lot of your views on things, but name calling isn't going to get us anywhere. So, PB, I am sorry that I sent you a hateful neg rep. It was wrong, and my apology is sincere.

This Sealioning is a new term for me today so I looked it up, but I don't think I am trolling or harassing you or anyone else with repeated requests for evidence or repeated questions which is seemingly the definition of it. I have asked, in some instances, for evidence to support claims, though mostly to Tgo. I asked once, and when he conveniently skipped over it, I didn't ask again. I just accepted that he didn't have any, because if he did I'm fairly certain he would have been quick to post it. Sure, I ask questions, some of them even leading, but not repetitively. So if in your opinion I am Sealioning, so be it. You are entitled to your opinion, but I 100% disagree with you on that one.

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Originally Posted by time4fun

His increasing willingness to mix politics with the military and to deploy it against Americans on US soil is a massive red flag.

He's retweeting people who are- in not-so-subtle ways- calling for the death of US citizens who aren't a part of his own political party and threatening violence himself against protesters in stark language.

He's retaliating against private entities for daring to criticize him (And specifically just call out his inaccuracies)

He's spreading misinformation about our elections and trying to convince people that there's massive fraud afoot

He's ordering attacks on peaceful protesters who are exercising their Constitutional right to free speech and assembly


I don't know what everyone is waiting for here, but can we just *not* wait for it to get worse? This is a first for our country. Do we really want this to be the first of many? And this is him having to worry about re-election. What do you think this all looks like with 4 more years and no accountability to voters?

Put the forum flame wars away for a moment. Take off the partisan hats. Put aside the years of built up resentments from endless political debates. Just be Americans right now.

Is this what you want America to look like?

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It is literally because of people like you that I will be happily voting for Trump in November.

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Originally Posted by Blazar

I have asked, in some instances, for evidence to support claims, though mostly to Tgo. I asked once, and when he conveniently skipped over it, I didn't ask again.

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Dude, what "evidence" did you ask for? Your first couple of replies to me were like 20 paragraphs long. Shorten that shit up a smidgen if you want me to read it all.

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

Van Jones is right.

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Van Jones is still batshit crazy... he's just right this one time.

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status...333579776?s=20

Rioters once again throwing bricks and metal pipes at horses.

Don't worry though, Solkern, I'm sure they were aiming for the officers.

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Originally Posted by Blazar

Gladly. It's only one sided because you aren't contributing anything useful. Sorry you feel that way and I wish you the best of luck in your mission of spreading hate and partisanship. Again, not above all of this, or I wouldn't be bothering with contributing at all.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

Dude, what "evidence" did you ask for? Your first couple of replies to me were like 20 paragraphs long. Shorten that shit up a smidgen if you want me to read it all.

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Hah, trying to entrap me into sealioning now are we? Well played, but not well enough! And sorry, I forget that in the days of Twitter we should keep stuff to under 500 characters. I'd contend that that is completely in conflict with having a well thought out discourse on things though. If you don't care to read what I write, it's not hurting my feelings one little bit.

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Originally Posted by Solkern

People who were actually at that protest, disagree and say tear gas was indeed used.

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Ask yourself this: Did the people who were actually at that protest have any motivation to say tear gas was indeed used?

If you come back and answer yourself with "no", please take a hammer and smack yourself in the forehead with it as hard as you can.

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

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I don't think that word means what you think it means.

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Sealioning is the name given to a specific, pervasive form of aggressive cluelessness, that masquerades as a sincere desire to understand.

A Sealion is a person who, when confronted with a fact that they don't care to acknowledge, say, the persistence of systemic racism in America, will ask endlessly for "proof" and insist that it is the other person's job to stop everything they are doing and address the issue to their satisfaction.

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Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity. It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate".

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A subtle form of trolling involving "bad-faith" questions. You disingenuously frame your conversation as a sincere request to be enlightened, placing the burden of educating you entirely on the other party. If your bait is successful, the other party may engage, painstakingly laying out their logic and evidence in the false hope of helping someone learn. In fact you are attempting to harass or waste the time of the other party, and have no intention of truly entertaining their point of view. Instead, you react to each piece of information by misinterpreting it or requesting further clarification, ad nauseum. The name "sea-lioning" comes from a Wondermark comic strip.

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The quote you provided contains no questions, and I don't pretend to be clueless. Try again. I could go with the quote you provided being passive aggressive at best if you really want to label it. It's not hard to reflect and be honest with yourself.

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Originally Posted by Blazar

Except when I first posted again, I stated that I sent shitty messages to several of you. You're welcome to share it, and I acknowledge it was ugly and hateful and wrong, and while I don't remember the specifics it was something about you sucking and taking Trump's micro penis. I reflected on it, and realized I was taking some personal shit out on you guys and after reading several posts I got pretty charged up. I don't agree with a lot of your views on things, but name calling isn't going to get us anywhere. So, PB, I am sorry that I sent you a hateful neg rep. It was wrong, and my apology is sincere.

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Don't care that you sent me anything to be honest. I just find it amusing that people like you pretend to be something you are not and chastise those who hurt your feelings as if you are above the fray.

You're not. Stop pretending you are.

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This Sealioning is a new term for me today so I looked it up, but I don't think I am trolling or harassing you or anyone else with repeated requests for evidence or repeated questions which is seemingly the definition of it. I have asked, in some instances, for evidence to support claims, though mostly to Tgo. I asked once, and when he conveniently skipped over it, I didn't ask again. I just accepted that he didn't have any, because if he did I'm fairly certain he would have been quick to post it. Sure, I ask questions, some of them even leading, but not repetitively. So if in your opinion I am Sealioning, so be it. You are entitled to your opinion, but I 100% disagree with you on that one.

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So, in summary.. "I don't sealion, but when I do sealion I don't want you to call me out on it!"

Jesus.. wait your turn. Right now time4dum has her title match for the retard belt against Seran. You can take the winner.