Swift Boat Vets to set record straight

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Originally posted by Prestius

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Originally posted by Latrinsorm

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Originally posted by Prestius
No .. It's the Vets who are bagging on Kerry's Military service when the candidate they are supporting, Bush

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I don't follow. If they don't like Kerry, it's ok with you. But if they don't like Kerry and they like Bush, you're upset?

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Oy .. is it all that difficult? There are lots of reasons a person might not like Kerry. But as a Veteran, to hold his Military service against him, when Bush was basicially AWOL - is the height of stupidity.

-P

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No.. actually each individual stands on his own merits. You uphold Kerry's 'honor' by saying "Yea, maybe he wasn't so great in the Vietnam War.. but LOOK AT BUSH!!!"

Using that as your focus is actually the height of stupidity.

A few things.

1. Did Kerry's shipmates speak out against him when he was being considered for those medals? Or is this a new development? I'm genuinely curious, and too lazy to look it up myself.

2. Parkbandit, change your damn signature. It's ridiculous, not ridicules.

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Originally posted by Ilvane
That's what I was trying to say by posting the facts, Backlash, but I guess Parkbandit didn't want to hear it.

I have nothing against opposing views, if they are at least based on facts. These commercials are not fact, they are deceitful. Big surprise.

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Please see signature below when discussing things not based on facts.

Thanks.

That the puppet handlers of Bush would keep slamming their head into this wall puzzles me to no end.

They want us to believe that yes, these men simply want the "truth" to come out?

That they would have a tremendously greater amount of respect for a man who's daddy got him a guard job in the states that he didnt even do than someone who went willingly.

Does anyone really believe that?

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Originally posted by Edaarin
A few things.


2. Parkbandit, change your damn signature. It's ridiculous, not ridicules.

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Fuck me.. I'm just glad you found it before I had to hear if from Bob.

Of course you COULD have sent it to me via U2U and you didn't. So these pics are for you... bastard:

Did you have to make me the construction worker?

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Originally posted by Edaarin
Did you have to make me the construction worker?

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It was the only one without the microphone in front of his face. I only have MSPaint here at work.. so my picture 'enhancements' are rather limited.

And you can tell that those are old.. it was back when Edaarin was an archer. (see first pic)

:)

[Edited on 8-5-2004 by Parkbandit]

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Originally posted by Edaarin
A few things.

1. Did Kerry's shipmates speak out against him when he was being considered for those medals? Or is this a new development? I'm genuinely curious, and too lazy to look it up myself.

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I was wondering the same. If this isn't a new development then I can see the argument. If it is, the claims of those men have to be questioned at least from a political viewpoint.

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Originally posted by DarkelfVold

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Originally posted by Edaarin
A few things.

1. Did Kerry's shipmates speak out against him when he was being considered for those medals? Or is this a new development? I'm genuinely curious, and too lazy to look it up myself.

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I was wondering the same. If this isn't a new development then I can see the argument. If it is, the claims of those men have to be questioned at least from a political viewpoint.

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I don't agree actually... (Big surprise I bet)

Kerry is running for the highest office in the free world. He is constantly referring to his service in the war and parading a couple vets around with him on the campaign trail.

I think it's a viable argument for these people to speak up now.

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Originally posted by Parkbandit

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Originally posted by DarkelfVold

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Originally posted by Edaarin
A few things.

1. Did Kerry's shipmates speak out against him when he was being considered for those medals? Or is this a new development? I'm genuinely curious, and too lazy to look it up myself.

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I was wondering the same. If this isn't a new development then I can see the argument. If it is, the claims of those men have to be questioned at least from a political viewpoint.

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I don't agree actually... (Big surprise I bet)

Kerry is running for the highest office in the free world. He is constantly referring to his service in the war and parading a couple vets around with him on the campaign trail.

I think it's a viable argument for these people to speak up now.

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You act like he has them on a leash. Those men do have wills of their own. 5 out of the 6 men who served with him on his boat were at the convention to support him, along with Max Cleland. The sixth one is deceased.

Why those other guys are bringing all this up now is a good question. 30 years after the fact when Kerry is running for President... it has to be political. They didn't bring it up when he ran for Senate did they?

BTW, Cleland's speech.

Watching and listening to him reminded me of Mr. Lebowski.