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Originally Posted by Back
He's saying "B-b-b-but that was different because Obama!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Yea, wasn't sure how Obama lying was different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Politicians lie. It's a fact of life.
According to cwolff, Trump is the only politician to ever lie about anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
This conservative gets it.Quote:
Your rational mind knows why Trump is doing all of this, but the stress of seeing him lure 40% of the American people into a trap from which there is no escape is often painful to watch. As an anthropologist of Trump and Trumpism, sometimes I feel as if the best thing I do is to remind you that it's all a lie.
No matter how much he spins it, no matter how many cute brand names and catchphrases he tries to jam into the media flow, at his core, Donald Trump is a man in a rising sea of legal peril, political risk and catastrophic failures. This explains his increasingly erratic behavior and dangerous efforts to corrupt the special counsel process, the Justice Department, and American institutions more broadly.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/t...mpression=true
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130801113941Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Imagine how horrible it would be to be as triggered as cwolff is about every single thing Donald Trump says.
I can't imagine being such a sensitive little pussy. Yikes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Here's a nice list of lies, craziness and general trumpbullshittery and this is just from 1 speech. Thanks to Daniel Dale from the Toronto Star for tweeting this:
~Trump wrongly claims nobody would have believed him if he’d promised there’d be 3.3 million jobs added between now and Election Day. Over the previous 18-month period, under Obama, there were 3.9 million jobs added.
~Trump falsely claims that wages are “finally going up” for “the first time in many, many years.” Wages have been rising since 2014. The current pace, 2.6% in April, is lower than the pace in Obama’s last full month in office, 2.7%.
~“Most importantly; our country is respected again all over the world,” Trump says. “We’re respected again as a country.” “Respect” is subjective, but approval of the U.S. has plummeted almost everywhere in the world outside Russia and Israel, Pew polling shows.
~Trump calls Nancy Pelosi “the MS-13 lover.” That’s exceptionally unfair, obviously. “She loves MS-13, can you imagine?” he continues.
~Trump claims that he has “already started” the wall. No actual construction of new wall has begun, only a few scattered replacement projects.
~Trump is telling his usual lengthy ramble-lie about how “San Diego” came and begged him for The Wall. None of this happened. San Diego’s Republican mayor opposes the wall, and its city council held a formal vote to express disapproval.
~“We lose with Mexico over $100 billion a year with this crazy NAFTA deal,” Trump falsely says. The trade deficit with Mexico was $69 billion last year.
~“In the end, Mexico’s paying for the wall,” Trump re-promises, though he says he “doesn’t want to cause a problem.”
~Trump on Mexico: “They’re going to pay for the wall, and they’re going to enjoy it.”
~Trump falsely claims that illegal immigration is “down.” Judging by border apprehensions, Trump’s favourite metric, it has spiked this year – apprehensions are up 4% from the first four months of 2016, up 77% from the first four months of 2017.
~For the 15th time in office, Trump lies that countries are intentionally sending their bad apples into the visa lottery. Individuals enter the lottery on their own because they want to immigrate.
~“We have borders down 40%,” Trump lies again. Once more, it’s up 77% in the first four months of this year from the first four months of last year.
~“You won’t have a Second Amendment” if the Democrats win, Trump says, which is, imagine this, not literally true.
~Trump has returned to the subject of MS-13: “They want to cut people up into little pieces.” Scoffing at Pelosi, he says, “They’re not human beings.” “What was the name?” he asks the crowd. “ANIMALLLS,” the crowd shouts as one.
~Trump is now telling a version of the usual fictional story in which he, sir, is told no president since Reagan could pass a tax cut, and he realized it was because they all called it “tax reform,” and he, master brander, decided to call it “tax cuts.”
~Trump brings up John McCain’s vote against Obamacare repeal. Some boos. Trump: “That cost our country a lot. That was a very, very terrible thing that happened.” He shouts that McCain campaigned on repeal. McCain is, again, home dealing with brain cancer.
~For the 14th time, Trump falsely claims the U.S. has spent $7 trillion on Middle East wars. No basis for this claim. Trump is wildly exaggerating a Brown U study that estimates current costs at $4.3 trillion, total including estimated future costs at $5.6 trillion.
~Returning to the roots of his presidential announcement speech, Trump complains that America has shoddy airports.
~Talking about rebuilding America, Trump…goes out of his way to say he has big hands: “We’ll do it all with these big beautiful hands. Look at these hands.”
~For the fourth time, Trump falsely says that the Empire State building was built in less than a year. It was 13 months.
I can't believe we have this argument raging but we do. The right is twisting itself into knots trying to explain away trump's constant stream of lies.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ble-falsehoods
The raging controversy over whether to call Trump’s lies “lies,” explained
It’s not the word you use that matters — it’s whether you extend him the benefit of the doubt.