2016 Election Prediction Thread

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Originally Posted by Jhynnifer

Or we could use these crystals that change color as you age, imbed them in people's hands and when they turn red, you die in a glorious naked orgy in the air.

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I knew someone would get my Logan's Run reference, why am I not surprised it was Jhynnifer that grasped the message?

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Originally Posted by Geijon Khyree

That is the big scary problem. A party has full control of the executive branch. They can do any crazy idea they want and push it down on us.

You dont need bipartisan support or the party of no. You have bush era coincidences and a similar idea to cut taxes. When you have full executive power majority you have to be restrained and i dont see either party with this position not just blasting through their equity immediately.

Repeal the affordable care act? Likely. 20 million uninsured. Good for some, bad for others, a regression without a true replacement.

Cut taxes on the wealthy? We already did. Lets double it! Great recession 2.0?

Roe v. Wade. Gone?

Patriot act 2.0? Drones over America? Who knows.

This is why the other half of America is scared. The Republican half seemed angry.

I hope they can deliver, but this feels like Bush all over again right down to the stunner of a defeat.

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Crawl back under your bed, cupcake. You're so scared!

:lol:

Did you survive Bush?

You sound exactly like my crazy sister.

Like exactly.

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Originally Posted by Kembal

What ID do you propose for an American citizen without a passport or other ID issued by the federal government?

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I propose that people get a government issued ID, it is not that hard, I have 4 of them. They need to be inexpensive to get, a few dollars, but you should have to provide some sort of official documentation that is verifiable from your country of origin and documentation from the US Government saying you are here legally, you know, all the things THAT ARE CURRENT LAW RIGHT NOW!

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Originally Posted by kutter

I propose that people get a government issued ID, it is not that hard, I have 4 of them. They need to be inexpensive to get, a few dollars, but you should have to provide some sort of official documentation that is verifiable from your country of origin and documentation from the US Government saying you are here legally, you know, all the things THAT ARE CURRENT LAW RIGHT NOW!

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So you're literally proposing a new bureaucracy to issue new federal IDs for people who don't need any other form of federal ID, because right now their proof of citizenship is a birth certificate. And since you're saying it needs to be inexpensive, that means a whole lot of federal spending to keep it operational.

And of course, once such bureaucracy has been established, you can now require the ID it issues for everything.

Explain to me how that's a conservative position again?

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Originally Posted by Kembal

So you're literally proposing a new bureaucracy to issue new federal IDs for people who don't need any other form of federal ID, because right now their proof of citizenship is a birth certificate. And since you're saying it needs to be inexpensive, that means a whole lot of federal spending to keep it operational.

And of course, once such bureaucracy has been established, you can now require the ID it issues for everything.

Explain to me how that's a conservative position again?

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Where did I say anything about a new bureaucracy? I must have missed that I wrote that, let me look back.,,,,,

Nope, never said that, every state issues ID's, there is a process to obtain one, have you gotten a State Issued ID since the new requirements by DHS were put into place? If not you must not drive much, at least legally since it has been in effect since 2005.

Here, let me make it easier for you: https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs

If you can obtain an ID that meets those requirements then you have a legal status in the US.

This thread is bringing me lols: http://theslot.jezebel.com/fuck-gary-johnson-1788736643

Shit, I have 6 forms of Government ID.

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Originally Posted by kutter

Where did I say anything about a new bureaucracy? I must have missed that I wrote that, let me look back.,,,,,

Nope, never said that, every state issues ID's, there is a process to obtain one, have you gotten a State Issued ID since the new requirements by DHS were put into place? If not you must not drive much, at least legally since it has been in effect since 2005.

Here, let me make it easier for you: https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs

If you can obtain an ID that meets those requirements then you have a legal status in the US.

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a) you said this: "documentation from the US Government saying you are here legally" - that usually doesn't mean state governments. It means federal. Hence my interpretation of what you said.

b) there are a whole lot of states that are not yet compliant with the requirements of Real ID. https://www.dhs.gov/current-status-states-territories

I mean, maybe states will do it soon and it's not an issue, but it seems to me it's hard to trust a state legislature to get its act together to pass the funds needed for the change. And of course, how do all these money transfer outlets verify the DL/state ID are real? Equip them with scanners? Who pays? Are the scanners able to read all states and territories' DLs/IDs?

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Originally Posted by Kembal

a) you said this: "documentation from the US Government saying you are here legally" - that usually doesn't mean state governments. It means federal. Hence my interpretation of what you said.

b) there are a whole lot of states that are not yet compliant with the requirements of Real ID. https://www.dhs.gov/current-status-states-territories

I mean, maybe states will do it soon and it's not an issue, but it seems to me it's hard to trust a state legislature to get its act together to pass the funds needed for the change. And of course, how do all these money transfer outlets verify the DL/state ID are real? Equip them with scanners? Who pays? Are the scanners able to read all states and territories' DLs/IDs?

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There are two forms of US passport that you can very, very easily get from your post office. The infrastructure already exists.

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Originally Posted by Fallen

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I don't understand the liberal logic that if Johnson wasn't in the race, ALL of these people would have voted for Hillary. Someone was saying that on MSNBC last night and it still makes zero sense.