Climate Change Report

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Originally Posted by Latrinsorm

...was this directed at me? I don't get how it follows from what we had been talking about. Have you looked at the model?

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He doesn't have time for that, he's way too busy protecting his wallet from godless hippy world police or whatever.

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Originally Posted by waywardgs

He doesn't have time for that, he's way too busy protecting his wallet from godless hippy world police or whatever.

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I hope he has money. It's so tiring to soak the rich and find out they're broke.

Lol @ World police. Isn't America already that? Not working out so well.

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Originally Posted by Johnny Five

Lol @ World police. Isn't America already that? Not working out so well.

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You ain't seen nothing yet.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

You ain't seen nothing yet.

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Yeah the number of countries telling us to "Fuck Off" seems to be only getting larger.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

I hope he has money. It's so tiring to soak the rich and find out they're broke.

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That's one hell of a Leap

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Originally Posted by Latrinsorm

...was this directed at me? I don't get how it follows from what we had been talking about. Have you looked at the model?

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We can't even get a five day weather forecast right you expect me to believe this crap?

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Originally Posted by Laviticas

We can't even get a five day weather forecast right you expect me to believe this crap?

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lol touche.

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Originally Posted by Laviticas

We can't even get a five day weather forecast right you expect me to believe this crap?

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So some weatherman in your neighborhood tells you it's gonna be cloudy and instead it sprinkles, and in your mind this invalidates a completely different field of science.

Yep, that makes a lot of sense.

In fifth grade my math teacher incorrectly calculated an equation on the board. I don't believe in relativity because of that mistake.

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Originally Posted by Latrinsorm

Total cost to build a power plant isn't the only relevant factor to power cost. You also have to operate the plant, and because sunlight is much much cheaper than coal it is much much cheaper to operate a solar plant. It so happens that in the long run these two factors very nearly balance out. That the cost is front-loaded is why government loans are important for solar power, so people will have enough capital to overcome the higher barrier and get into the sweet, sweet long term profits.

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Actually, coal plants operating costs tend to be lower then Solar. It's the fuel that lets Solar catch up in 20 years or so. The problem is at that point, the solar panels tend to need to be replaced. So there is another large jump in costs. Now... what company is going to be ok with not making a profit for 20 years? And why should I give that company money, not knowing if I will ever get it back, so I can buy their product?

This is why I hate ALL subsidies. We may not see some, but could you imagine if when you went to a GM dealership, they asked you for a 1,000 $ check. Then told you to come back in 3 months and buy a car for full price? You would ask them what the 1,000 was for, and they would say.. "So we can afford to build your car, duh". You would ask, "then why don't I get 1,000 off the price of the car?" ... "We have to make a profit" they would respond.