Things that made you Facepalm today (Political Version)

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03-11-2022, 11:12 PM
time4fun

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Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet

Agreed.

Also notice how the media and Dems keep calling the gas pump increase the “Putin hike”. Sorry folks…nothing we can do about it. It’s all Putin’s fault. And while yes Putin absolutely does have a lot to do with the most recent increase in price of crude oil, he completely ignores the fact that they were already high BEFORE the invasion. Biden’s domestic energy policies by executive order when he first took office have absolutely contributed to the steady increase in our fuel costs. But of course instead of taking accountability or considering easing up on the energy industry regulations, let’s just blame it all on Putin and make a half hearted attempt to get more oil from friendly nations like Venezuela, Iran, and Saudi Arabia. When they tell us to go eff ourselves, Biden can say he tried but this is all Putin’s fault…

it's a global increase in gas prices. Yes there are some things we can do. And we're doing them, but they don't happen overnight.

This is a really silly point to be making right now.
03-11-2022, 11:15 PM
Tgo01

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Originally Posted by time4fun

And we're doing them

No we're not. Remove these dumb drilling bans in areas where we know there is a shitton of oil. Open up more areas for drilling. Give out more explorations leases. Approve more drilling permits and faster. Give tax breaks to energy companies if they increase their production by a certain amount.

You can argue you care about the local wildlife more than you care about Americans suffering, or that you don't think energy companies should be given tax breaks, but don't straight up lie and claim we're doing everything we can to lower the price of gas.
03-12-2022, 12:03 AM
Solkern

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

The Ukraine has been ran by mafia style organizations since the fall of the USSR. You don't reach presidential status in a country like the Ukraine (or any other country) without being corrupt to the core. Pretending otherwise is just ignoring how the world works.

There is no good side in the war in Ukraine. The only good side are the people being forced to stay there until their eventual slaughter.

1984 has never been more relevant.

I’m sure you have facts, evidence and data to support your claim that zelenskyy is corrupt? You specifically said he is a corrupt politician, can you prove it?
Yeah, Ukraine was corrupt and probably still is, that doesn’t mean zelenskyy is. Have you ever thought that maybe the people want a change? Maybe he wants to actually do things for the betterment of his country, his people and their future?
Bringing up that Ukraine was already corrupt, and you think will always be corrupt isn’t evidence, data or facts that zelenskyy is also corrupt.

You know his entry into the race was crowd funded by the public that was completely transparent? Part of how Ukraine maintained corruption was by making a presidential entry expensive as fuck.
03-12-2022, 12:57 AM
Neveragain

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Originally Posted by Solkern

I’m sure you have facts, evidence and data to support your claim that zelenskyy is corrupt? You specifically said he is a corrupt politician, can you prove it?
Yeah, Ukraine was corrupt and probably still is, that doesn’t mean zelenskyy is. Have you ever thought that maybe the people want a change? Maybe he wants to actually do things for the betterment of his country, his people and their future?
Bringing up that Ukraine was already corrupt, and you think will always be corrupt isn’t evidence, data or facts that zelenskyy is also corrupt.

You know his entry into the race was crowd funded by the public that was completely transparent? Part of how Ukraine maintained corruption was by making a presidential entry expensive as fuck.

The Pandora papers and the criminal state of the Ukraine is plenty of evidence for me. You're free to believe in Captain Ukraine, just don't call for American blood to be spilled over it.
03-12-2022, 01:04 AM
Neveragain

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Originally Posted by time4fun

it's a global increase in gas prices.

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Originally Posted by time4fun

Yes there are some things we can do

I can think of 640 million acres of things we can do.
03-12-2022, 01:07 AM
Solkern

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

The Pandora papers and the criminal state of the Ukraine is plenty of evidence for me. You're free to believe in Captain Ukraine, just don't call for American blood to be spilled over it.

That was all well before he became president or even got into politics, it was his own wealth from being an actor and comedian.

So how does him having offshore count and business dealings before he even became a president or getting into politics make him a corrupt politician?
It’s common practice for people of Eastern European countries that have any sort of money to move their money out of the country because of the corruption. You are aware of this right?

You said he’s a corrupt politician, so can you show me evidence, data or facts that prove it?
Him having legitimate wealth outside of the country does not mean he’s corrupt.
On top of that, he doesn’t even have a lot of money. Shit, I have a higher net worth than him.
03-12-2022, 01:20 AM
time4fun

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

The Pandora papers and the criminal state of the Ukraine is plenty of evidence for me. You're free to believe in Captain Ukraine, just don't call for American blood to be spilled over it.

If I had a nickel for every time you've come in here blindly repeating Russian propaganda with absolutely no awareness whatsoever over the years, I would be able to put a down payment on a Bay Area house.

It's tragic, disturbing, and (unbeknownst to you) humiliating.
03-12-2022, 08:29 AM
Parkbandit

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Originally Posted by time4fun

it's a global increase in gas prices. Yes there are some things we can do. And we're doing them, but they don't happen overnight.

This is a really silly point to be making right now.
03-12-2022, 11:14 AM
Bhaalizmo

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Originally Posted by time4fun

If I had a nickel for every time you've come in here blindly repeating Russian propaganda with absolutely no awareness whatsoever over the years, I would be able to put a down payment on a Bay Area house.

It's tragic, disturbing, and (unbeknownst to you) humiliating.

it's true, and sad. I briefly found it morbidly amusing, but now it's just sad.
03-12-2022, 11:38 AM
Neveragain

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Originally Posted by Solkern

That was all well before he became president or even got into politics, it was his own wealth from being an actor and comedian.

So how does him having offshore count and business dealings before he even became a president or getting into politics make him a corrupt politician?
It’s common practice for people of Eastern European countries that have any sort of money to move their money out of the country because of the corruption. You are aware of this right?

You said he’s a corrupt politician, so can you show me evidence, data or facts that prove it?
Him having legitimate wealth outside of the country does not mean he’s corrupt.
On top of that, he doesn’t even have a lot of money. Shit, I have a higher net worth than him.

I've given my reasons as to why I don't support either side, you may not like it and that's fine.

I don't believe it's possible to reach the higher ranks of the political class without being corrupt, in the Ukraine especially.

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