Things that made you Facepalm today (Political Version)

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Originally Posted by Seran

Nice deflection. Another Putin sympathizer I imagine?

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Way to prove him right without a shred of self awareness, dumbass.

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Originally Posted by Solkern

I’m sure you have facts, evidence and data to support your claim?
Zelenskyy actually gives a shit about Ukraine, it’s people, and his country’s future, how many politicians can you actually say that about? if he was in fact corrupt as all other politicians, he would have accepted Trump’s offer.
He’s still in Kyiv, rallying his people and giving them hope, he’s survived multiple assassination attempts, rejected America’s offer to get the fuck out of there, while every other politician would run in his situation. He’s shown time and time again, he’s not like other corrupt politicians.
He’s loved by pretty much all Ukrainian citizens, his intentions are and were never about personal wealth, enriching his friends, or doing anything that would harm his country.

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The Ukraine has been ran by mafia style organizations since the fall of the USSR. You don't reach presidential status in a country like the Ukraine (or any other country) without being corrupt to the core. Pretending otherwise is just ignoring how the world works.

There is no good side in the war in Ukraine. The only good side are the people being forced to stay there until their eventual slaughter.

1984 has never been more relevant.

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Originally Posted by Solkern

I’m sure quite a few other people on these forums have offshore accounts and investments.

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I doubt that statement to be factual…

While I agree that there is nothing inherently wrong with having offshore accounts and investments, as a politician at that level I can see how it may bring into public questions of conflicting interests. Many countries have it built into their laws / constitution that elected officials cannot own foreign assets. I’m no expert but pretty sure I heard Russia is one of those countries just as the first wave of sanctions were happening. No idea on Ukraine.

Side note…how the heck do you have those and work for HSBC (assuming you are a US employee)? Regulation requires me to disclose any and all investments with my employer, I have to receive pre-clearance to make any trades, have to hold onto any shares I buy for a minimum of 30 days, etc. Outside of retirement accounts I invest in real estate partially to avoid all of that regulatory headache as they don’t track or seem to care about that.

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Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet

I doubt that statement to be factual…

While I agree that there is nothing inherently wrong with having offshore accounts and investments, as a politician at that level I can see how it may bring into public questions of conflicting interests. Many countries have it built into their laws / constitution that elected officials cannot own foreign assets. I’m no expert but pretty sure I heard Russia is one of those countries just as the first wave of sanctions were happening. No idea on Ukraine.

Side note…how the heck do you have those and work for HSBC (assuming you are a US employee)? Regulation requires me to disclose any and all investments with my employer, I have to receive pre-clearance to make any trades, have to hold onto any shares I buy for a minimum of 30 days, etc. Outside of retirement accounts I invest in real estate partially to avoid all of that regulatory headache as they don’t track or seem to care about that.

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It’s all through my wife.

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Originally Posted by Solkern

It’s all through my wife.

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At my place they track all of her stuff too. When I first had to start annual personal investment disclosures we forgot about some small measly 401k she had from a place she worked at in her early 20s and never rolled over. They found it for us and asked about it…

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Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet

At my place they track all of her stuff too. When I first had to start annual personal investment disclosures we forgot about some small measly 401k she had from a place she worked at in her early 20s and never rolled over. They found it for us and asked about it…

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My wife isn’t a U.S. citizen.

Senate just passed another 1.5T spending bill during the highest inflation in 40 years.

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Originally Posted by Solkern

My wife isn’t a U.S. citizen.

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Ahh. That makes sense now. Cool.

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Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage

Senate just passed another 1.5T spending bill during the highest inflation in 40 years.

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Umm, our country has to have a budget and the funds have to be allocated by congress to spending programs? This isn't a stimulus program, this is an everyday appropriations bill. Unless you're bothered they didn't cut federal spending?

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Originally Posted by Seran

Umm, our country has to have a budget and the funds have to be allocated by congress to spending programs? This isn't a stimulus program, this is an everyday appropriations bill. Unless you're bothered they didn't cut federal spending?

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Seran if the exact same bill was passed under Trump: OMG TRUMP IS GOING TO BANKRUPT US WITH ALL THIS RECKLESS SPENDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!