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10-31-2018, 03:53 PM
Tgo01

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Originally Posted by time4fun

He's incorrect. The amendment language doesn't give any such qualifications.

A child born in the US is *always* here legally unless they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US (in which case we're talking about either foreign invaders or diplomats). You are maligning US citizens right now, and it's gross.

Go back and read my invasion scenario, you really think they intended for this amendment to work in such a way?

And please don't respond with something dumb like "LOL! The US isn't going to be invaded!"
10-31-2018, 04:02 PM
time4fun

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Originally Posted by Gelston

You're willfully leaving out the and subject to the jurisdiction thereof part. It doesn't say or, it says and. Both be required. That is what is being challenged. It will be decided by the courts. Not you, not me, not Trump, not Congress.

Um Gelston are you actually under the impression that undocumented immigrants have immunity to US laws?

Allow me to clarify for you- all immigrants- documented or not- are subject to US jurisdiction unless they have diplomatic immunity. In fact, all immigrants- even undocumented ones- have the same rights US citizens have under the Constitution (with a few obvious exceptions like the right to vote or run for office)
10-31-2018, 04:04 PM
Tgo01

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Originally Posted by time4fun

Allow me to clarify for you- all immigrants- documented or not- are subject to US jurisdiction unless they have diplomatic immunity. In fact, all immigrants- even undocumented ones- have the same rights US citizens have under the Constitution (with a few obvious exceptions like the right to vote or run for office)

Illegal aliens are JUST like US citizens!

Except when they aren't.

This from the person who teaches "logic."
10-31-2018, 04:05 PM
Gelston

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Originally Posted by time4fun

Um Gelston are you actually under the impression that undocumented immigrants have immunity to US laws?

Allow me to clarify for you- all immigrants- documented or not- are subject to US jurisdiction unless they have diplomatic immunity. In fact, all immigrants- even undocumented ones- have the same rights US citizens have under the Constitution (with a few obvious exceptions like the right to vote or run for office)

You seem to be confused with what the word jurisdiction means. A basic law class will tell you it has a few different meanings, one of which covers citizenship and how legal authority effects that. Trump is arguing that case. Of course they are still criminally liable when committing crimes in the US, don't be stupid. Don't worry, the courts will take care of all this.
10-31-2018, 04:07 PM
Androidpk

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

Illegal aliens are JUST like US citizens!

Except when they aren't.

This from the person who teaches "logic."

This isn't logic, it's documented law. Illegal immigrants have the same constitutional protections that US citizens have.
10-31-2018, 04:09 PM
Tgo01

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Originally Posted by Androidpk

Illegal immigrants have the same constitutional protections that US citizens have.

Except for the ones they don't have, right?
10-31-2018, 04:09 PM
time4fun

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Originally Posted by Gelston

You seem to be confused with what the word jurisdiction means. A basic law class will tell you it has a few different meanings, one of which covers citizenship and how legal authority effects that. Trump is arguing that case. Of course they are still criminally liable when committing crimes in the US, don't be stupid. Don't worry, the courts will take care of all this.

I promise you Gelston, I'm not the one who is confused about this.

This is settled case law and has been for a very long time. I encourage you to read more objective pieces on the subject as it's clear to me that you're getting your information from inaccurate sources with agendas.
10-31-2018, 04:11 PM
Gelston

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Originally Posted by time4fun

I promise you Gelston, I'm not the one who is confused about this.

This is settled case law and has been for a very long time. I encourage you to read more objective pieces on the subject as it's clear to me that you're getting your information from inaccurate sources with agendas.

My information is directly from the law. I haven't placed an opinion anywhere. I have stated WHAT Trump is saying. WHAT is going to happen, and WHO is going to determine it. Nothing else. I haven't even said whether I agree with it or not. Of course, your toxic attitude has you in constant attack mode.
10-31-2018, 04:15 PM
Tgo01

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Originally Posted by time4fun

I promise you Gelston, I'm not the one who is confused about this.

This is settled case law and has been for a very long time. I encourage you to read more objective pieces on the subject as it's clear to me that you're getting your information from inaccurate sources with agendas.

Nothing is "settled case law." That's just a dumb talking points leftists such as yourself trot out when you want to talk about shit like abortion.

The second amendment is very clear on gun rights yet that is constantly in and out of the courts, whereas the 14th amendment is ambiguous as shit.
10-31-2018, 04:20 PM
Methais

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

Nothing is "settled case law." That's just a dumb talking points leftists such as yourself trot out when you want to talk about shit like abortion.

The second amendment is very clear on gun rights yet that is constantly in and out of the courts, whereas the 14th amendment is ambiguous as shit.

“This is settled case law.” -time4fun

“Omg we can’t confirm Kavanaugh or else he’s going to overturn Roe v Wade!!!” -also time4fun

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