State of the Union 2014

I blame the policies of Milliard Fillmore. Fucking Whig party.

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Originally Posted by Whirlin

I wouldn't say Bush policies specifically

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Thank you :D

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

Thank you :D

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Don't republican up that post. Address all of it!

If you're willing to accept that Bush's year 0 high unemployment rate is due to the change in presidency, are you willing to accept the hike in year 0 high unemployment for Obama is based on the change rather than any particular policy?

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

Making 35 dollars an hour?



That all sound like reasons for our high deficit. The recession is only mentioned twice and neither time does it cite these reasons as the cause of the recession.

I also don't understand how a war can lead to a recession and job losses. Likewise I don't understand how tax cuts (which literally gives people more money to spend) leads to a recession and job losses either.

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The war directly lead to people buying homes they couldn't afford with money they didn't have to try to make a profit by selling them to some other moron who didn't have money either. Duh.

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Originally Posted by Whirlin

Don't republican up that post. Address all of it!

If you're willing to accept that Bush's year 0 high unemployment rate is due to the change in presidency, are you willing to accept the hike in year 0 high unemployment for Obama is based on the change rather than any particular policy?

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I have no idea. My whole point has been Kembal's assertion that Obama gets a pass on income inequality because none of his policies specifically made it worse. What's good enough for Obama is good enough for Bush.

Or are you racist and you don't believe black people are equal to whites?

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Originally Posted by Whirlin

Don't republican up that post. Address all of it!

If you're willing to accept that Bush's year 0 high unemployment rate is due to the change in presidency, are you willing to accept the hike in year 0 high unemployment for Obama is based on the change rather than any particular policy?

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http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Pretty massive hike.

I tried to pull from 2000 but that data was extracted already from the site so I couldn't access it.

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Originally Posted by Whirlin

Don't republican up that post. Address all of it!

If you're willing to accept that Bush's year 0 high unemployment rate is due to the change in presidency, are you willing to accept the hike in year 0 high unemployment for Obama is based on the change rather than any particular policy?

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I'll accept Obama wasn't at fault for the 2009 unemployment rate.

If you will accept that 2010-2014 is all his fault.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

I have no idea. My whole point has been Kembal's assertion that Obama gets a pass on income inequality because none of his policies specifically made it worse. What's good enough for Obama is good enough for Bush.

Or are you racist and you don't believe black people are equal to whites?

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Depends if racists believes that cat avatars are better than dog avatars.

But, why are you bringing up income inequality when your previous questions/assertions/discussions were about unemployment? Don't Romney the subject on me.

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Originally Posted by Johnny Five

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Pretty massive hike.

I tried to pull from 2000 but that data was extracted already from the site so I couldn't access it.

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Right... Just like your republican arguments for climate change, take a look as long as labor statistics have been gathered. There have been hikes associated with every change in presidency.

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Originally Posted by Jarvan

I'll accept Obama wasn't at fault for the 2009 unemployment rate.

If you will accept that 2010-2014 is all his fault.

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The rate of decrease has been consistent with previous presidents. Bush's peak was 6.1 in May of 2003, He got it to 4.4 in Dec 2006, a reduction of 27.8% over 42ish months.

If we don't look at the initial peaks, and we take Obama's peak unemployment after year 0 of 9.8% in Nov 10, the latest figures put it at 7.2 in Sept 13, a reduction of 26.5% over ~36 months

They're still marginally similar.

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Originally Posted by Whirlin

But, why are you bringing up income inequality when your previous questions/assertions/discussions were about unemployment? Don't Romney the subject on me.

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I posted that I found it ironic that Obama admits income inequality has gotten worse during his presidency because you would think that would prove to his supporters what a failure he is but instead his supporters are using that as proof that Republicans are assholes.

Kembal posted that Obama gets a pass on income inequality getting worse during his presidency because (supposedly) none of his policies specifically made income inequality worse.

I questioned why Obama gets a pass on that from Democrats when just a few years ago (in some cases a few days ago) they were bashing Bush for the recession and high unemployment due to his "failed policies."

I asked for specifics of which failed policies of Bush's led to the recession and high unemployment and so far the closest I've received was Bush's inaction led to the recession and high unemployment.

My point has thus been proven. Thusly.

Thank you and good night.