Swift Boat Vets to set record straight

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08-05-2004, 01:37 PM
Parkbandit

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Originally posted by Ilvane
Did you even read the article I posted on McCain, and what was said in it?

I guess not.

-A

HOLY SHIT! JOHN MCCAIN SAID SOMETHING!?? Let me just stop what I am doing because he IS the voice of the Republican Party.

Oh wait.. he's not. He's the most liberal republican I know... so his view on this doesn't surprise me.

I imagine that might be why he's still in the Senate and not in the White House.

I also imagine the White House will also denounce this advertising.. though they have to be happy about it.
08-05-2004, 01:39 PM
Parkbandit

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Originally posted by Prestius

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Originally posted by Parkbandit
I find it absolutely funny that if you are a Vietnam veteran and support Kerry.. you are a hero in the media. If you do not support him.. you are an idiot.

No PB .. I have no issue with a Vietnam Vet being against Kerry. There are a lot of issues that I can easily see both sides of and can see where many people wouldn't like Kerry for those reasons.

No .. It's the Vets who are bagging on Kerry's Military service when the candidate they are supporting, Bush, got a cushy assignment due to political connections basically hid out the war in Georgia partying and doing political work for his dad.

That's the hypocracy and stupidity.

-P

Like I said before.. the real stupidity and hypocracy is from those people who 8 years ago said this was a non issue.. now claim that it's the defining issue.

Cake is over there in the corner.. have a slice.
08-05-2004, 01:42 PM
Latrinsorm

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Originally posted by Prestius
No .. It's the Vets who are bagging on Kerry's Military service when the candidate they are supporting, Bush

I don't follow. If they don't like Kerry, it's ok with you. But if they don't like Kerry and they like Bush, you're upset?

I'd like to again thank the Republicans who dropped the ball in 2000 and didn't nominate McCain, by the way.
08-05-2004, 01:42 PM
Prestius

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Originally posted by Parkbandit

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Originally posted by Prestius
Look -- this is a stupid point to argue for the Repubs. You can discuss all you want about Kerry's war record, but at least he HAS a war record.

-P

Again.. did it bother you that Clinton didn't have a war record? Oh that's right.. it DIDN'T matter back then.. but now.. now it most certainly does!

How fucking convenient.

Ah yes .. speaking of convienent. The all purpose "I have no leg to stand on so I'll bring up Clinton" line!

Look. The whole military service thing is not a deciding factor. It wasn't when I voted for Clinton, and it won't be when I vote for Kerry. It's in the news because Kerry refuses to let AWOL-Bush do to him what Bush did to McCain in 2000 over his service record.

-P
08-05-2004, 01:43 PM
Back

Here is another article to corroborate Ilvane's post.

Its almost word for word. What I find interesting is that Bush used this exact same tactic against McCain in the 2000 Republican primary. He also called McCain "someone who says one thing and does another." Ole' Bushie hasn't changed his tactics.

Link quoting Bush about McCain.
08-05-2004, 01:44 PM
Parkbandit

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Originally posted by Backlash
Here is another article to corroborate Ilvane's post.

Its almost word for word. What I find interesting is that Bush used this exact same tactic against McCain in the 2000 Republican primary. He also called McCain "someone who says one thing and does another." Ole' Bushie hasn't changed his tactics.

Link quoting Bush about McCain.

Bush didn't produce this ad... so your 'point' is mute.
08-05-2004, 01:46 PM
Prestius

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Originally posted by Latrinsorm

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Originally posted by Prestius
No .. It's the Vets who are bagging on Kerry's Military service when the candidate they are supporting, Bush

I don't follow. If they don't like Kerry, it's ok with you. But if they don't like Kerry and they like Bush, you're upset?

Oy .. is it all that difficult? There are lots of reasons a person might not like Kerry. But as a Veteran, to hold his Military service against him, when Bush was basicially AWOL - is the height of stupidity.

-P
08-05-2004, 01:55 PM
Latrinsorm

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Originally posted by Prestius
Oy .. is it all that difficult? There are lots of reasons a person might not like Kerry. But as a Veteran, to hold his Military service against him, when Bush was basicially AWOL - is the height of stupidity.

From what I read, what they're holding against him (Kerry) is lying about his military service and getting medals, probably compounded by him then tossing the medals and making up stuff about his fellow soldiers/sailors.

Whether he was lying, tossing, and making is up for debate, certainly, but I don't recall them saying anything like what you propose.
08-05-2004, 01:56 PM
Back

Those guys who talk all that shit about Kerry weren't on his boat. The guys who were on that boat with Kerry were at the democratic national convention to support him.

Guess that makes this thread moot.
08-05-2004, 01:58 PM
Ilvane

That's what I was trying to say by posting the facts, Backlash, but I guess Parkbandit didn't want to hear it.

I have nothing against opposing views, if they are at least based on facts. These commercials are not fact, they are deceitful. Big surprise.

-A

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