Alt left shooter

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Donquix

Crazy people are a problem, regardless of ideology.

Crazy people having unrestricted access to firearms is also a problem. If you can't see that, you're part of that first problem.

---

Nobody has unrestricted access to firearms. Of course you would know this if you have ever purchased a firearm.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Neveragain

Nobody has unrestricted access to firearms. Of course you would know this if you have ever purchased a firearm.

---

How do you figure? It's legal to do a personal sale of property to another person, firearms included.
Yes, Government approved arms dealers do not offer unrestricted access, but that's not the only way of getting a gun.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Whirlin

How do you figure? It's legal to do a personal sale of property to another person, firearms included.
Yes, Government approved arms dealers do not offer unrestricted access, but that's not the only way of getting a gun.

---

Except you know, it's illegal to knowingly sell a firearm to someone if they are purchasing it for illegal intent.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Neveragain

Except you know, it's illegal to knowingly sell a firearm to someone if they are purchasing it for illegal intent.

---

Yeah, there's absolutely no way around that rule ever. And everyone engaging in a firearm transaction always discusses intent of the use, and everyone always tells the truth, right?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Whirlin

Yeah, there's absolutely no way around that rule ever. And everyone engaging in a firearm transaction always discusses intent of the use, and everyone always tells the truth, right?

---

Sooo... more laws are going to make people follow the laws we already have?

Kind of like how it's impossible to find a bag of weed because it's illegal.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Neveragain

Sooo... more laws are going to make people follow the laws we already have?
Kind of like how it's impossible to find a bag of weed because it's illegal.

---

Pretty defeatist attitude. Why outlaw murder if people are going to just do it anyway, even if it's illegal, right? Last I checked, Motor Vehicles tend to have decent oversight on them when it comes to sales and transfers.
But you're right. Weed is much more dangerous than a gun, that's why it's illegal, right? We should absolutely ensure that anyone with weed is jailed.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Parkbandit

Is anyone really surprised at this? You can't keep talking about killing people for their politics and not think this is going to happen.

Looks like it's a guy from the alt left that did the shooting. Piece of shit, hope he lives so he can rot in jail.

---

................................

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Whirlin

Pretty defeatist attitude. Why outlaw murder if people are going to just do it anyway, even if it's illegal, right? Last I checked, Motor Vehicles tend to have decent oversight on them when it comes to sales and transfers.

---

That isn't really the point. We just don't need additional laws to declare that murder is illegal. Why is a murder more murderous if it's a hate crime, for example? If someone kills me because I'm white they should get the same penalty as if they killed me because they hate gays.

I don't really know what to think of gun control. I don't own a gun, and don't expect that I ever will, but I don't see any reason why law abiding citizens shouldn't own them. On the other hand, I don't think that anyone who has been diagnosed with a serious mental illness (not just depression) should have the same unfettered access as someone who has shown themselves to be a fine upstanding member of society. And I don't think you should be able to sell guns at flea markets to avoid background checks.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by everan

That isn't really the point. We just don't need additional laws to declare that murder is illegal. Why is a murder more murderous if it's a hate crime, for example? If someone kills me because I'm white they should get the same penalty as if they killed me because they hate gays.

I don't really know what to think of gun control. I don't own a gun, and don't expect that I ever will, but I don't see any reason why law abiding citizens shouldn't own them. On the other hand, I don't think that anyone who has been diagnosed with a serious mental illness (not just depression) should have the same unfettered access as someone who has shown themselves to be a fine upstanding member of society. And I don't think you should be able to sell guns at flea markets to avoid background checks.

---

To further those thoughts that I agree with... despite this shooter's political leanings he had a record of abusive behavior that should have prevented him from arming himself to the teeth. I doubt you'll hear anyone say to abolish guns completely just put more restrictions on ownership. It's just responsible.

Hmm, interestingly he was doing fairly well for himself, owned his own business and had no serious run in with the law. I just think there are crazies on both sides of the spectrum.