Things that made you Facepalm today (Political Version)

FDA banning Nac because its ultra cheap and helps with fighting Covid. FDA is clearly run by big Pharma

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Originally Posted by Shaps

Good points, but still think you're just looking at the first layer... as opposed to secondary conditions.

1. This article was originally published in The Atlantic.
Refer to my other post earlier today about who funds The Atlantic.

2. The article you linked... every study he cites, refutes what he's claiming... but he makes his claims based off of his logic.
I linked the actual study, that was published just 2 days ago.. that shows.. "just as likely to spread the delta variant as the unvaccinated."

3. This is where the sticking point I think we have is... as I'm looking at the human condition and activity...
Do you think it's more likely for 20,000 unvaccinated to get together... or for 20,000 vaccinated to get together?
You watching sports right now? You think there are more vaccinated or unvaccinated attending them?
You think the vaccinated are having more parties, get togethers, social gatherings... or are the unvaccinated?

The point is... the research shows that transmission efficacy wanes after 3-4 months. The graphs show that trend to be consistent from initial vaccinations (reduction in transmission for 3-4 months) and current timeframe... all while social interaction is increasing that cases increased.

It's easy, as a political tool, to just say "the unvaxxed are to blame!"... these are the same politicians who last summer said all the riots and demonstrations didn't contribute to the spread of Covid... because apparently Covid recognizes political sides.

I would propose that the unvaccinated are much more cognizant of their surroundings and avoiding large gatherings as a general rule of thumb. That just sort of goes with human nature and self-preservation.

I would also propose if you've been vaccinated, or have natural immunity, then you would much more easily be in large crowds thus increasing probability for increased spread.

Just saying... it's not easy to fully examine an issue... and the Politicians and pundits are hoping people don't.


Note: And please understand... this is not about placing "blame" on either side. This is about ensuring the data, and the way it's presented by the pundits and Politicians is accurate vs. used as a bludgeon to fuck over peoples individual rights... and in my opinion the demonization (and easy statement) of "the unvaccinated!!!" is designed to do that.

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Both reports show exactly what Solkern wrote about;

that areas with lower vaccination rates are more likely to engage in activities where transmission and super spreader events may result,

and that new covid-19 infections are 3 times more common in the unvaccinated than they are among the vaccinated. Not to mention the unvaccinated are several times more likely to have severe infections needing hospitalization.

None of the studies cited by the article writer in any way refutes the conclusions of the author. Moreover, I don't even see how you could make that claim if you bothered to read them.

Both science and statistics now support the need for vaccination mandates. Those who claim they would have gotten vaccinated had the government not required it are full of shit. If that were true, they'd have been vaccinated within the last eight months.

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Originally Posted by Seran

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Originally Posted by Brotus22

FDA banning Nac because its ultra cheap and helps with fighting Covid. FDA is clearly run by big Pharma

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FDA issued guidance back in 2010 that NAC isn't an authorized supplement. That they continue to crack down on retailers selling it isn't anything new. That healthfood and supplement peddlers are pushing an unproven drug as a covid-19 therapeutic is also nothing new.

Here's another Trump Agreement from 2020 that hasn't panned out. Wonder how ping before the Right begins to blame President Biden for ruining Trump's "perfect" and "best trade deal ever negotiated".

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US urges China to fully honour trade pact signed with Trump

China had agreed to buy $200bn more of US goods and services than it did in 2017 — before the start of the trade war — over a two-year period until the end of 2021. But according to the Peterson Institute for International Economics, it has made only 62 per cent of the expected purchases on a prorated basis.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft....f-b5cba0b19fae

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Originally Posted by Seran

Here's another Trump Agreement from 2020 that hasn't panned out. Wonder how ping before the Right begins to blame President Biden for ruining Trump's "perfect" and "best trade deal ever negotiated".



https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft....f-b5cba0b19fae

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"An economy doesn't slow down when you shut down the economy" ~ Seran

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

"An economy doesn't slow down when you shut down the economy" ~ Seran

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He didn't really say that did he? :lol:

It's sad that I even have to ask.

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Originally Posted by Methais

He didn't really say that did he? :lol:

It's sad that I even have to ask.

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3.5 trillion dollars = 0

0 = 3.5 trillion dollars.

and 2+2=5

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

3.5 trillion dollars = 0

0 = 3.5 trillion dollars.

and 2+2=5

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Originally Posted by Methais

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Science has shown that this is correct.