More Obamacare fuckups

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Originally Posted by Androidpk

You're implying that only conservatives have a problem with Obamacare.

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Actually, I'm not. But when you were asked as to whether the problem with Obamacare was whether you wanted a public option as supported by Sanders, or whether you preferred repeal as pushed by Trump, you answered with:

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Originally Posted by Androidpk

Actually Trump's idea of opening up the market to allow any company access to all states is pretty sound. And yes, repealing Obamacare is a very good idea.

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You didn't reply that you wanted a public option or even single-payer, which is what those on the left generally prefer as an alternative to Obamacare.

In fact, the opening up of the market by erasing state lines for health insurance is almost diametrically opposed to a single-payer system (since single-payer would mean all the health insurance companies are largely dead, and thus there's no market.)

So that's why I find it interesting to ask you the question: what parts of Obamacare do you disagree with, since you say you're not a conservative yet are calling for repeal and have not expressed support for single-payer?

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Originally Posted by Ashliana

What he identifies as is irrelevant. He frequently spews out alt-right talking points.

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Did you provide more of the "alt-right" talking points he spews other than this list?

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Originally Posted by Ashliana

1) Position on Obamacare straight out of the GOP playbook, can't articulate what you dislike about it, no alternatives for what would replace it
2) Position on Clinton foundation/Saudi money straight out of the Breitbart playbook
3) Position on voter fraud straight out of the Breitbart playbook
4) Position on Russia's involvement in the election straight out of the Breitbart/Trump playbook
5) Position on the DNC hacks straight out of the Breitbart playbook

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Because that's a pretty weak list.

1) It's pretty pathetic to say if you don't like Obamacare you must be some sort of neo con alt-right winger. That doesn't even make sense.
2) Yes, he hates Clinton, as everyone should.
3) Again this goes way back to when Sanders supporters were saying Hillary was stealing the election from Sanders. pk wanted Sanders to be our next president. Are all Sanders supporters just a bunch of alt-right wingers too?
4) What does this one even mean? What are you trying to say?
5) Again, what? pk has had his head up Assange's ass way before Wikileaks started going after Hillary. So, what, now if you don't ignore the released emails because RUSSIA HACKED THEM!!!!! you are literally a communist and a Putin/Trump lover?

And the dumbing down of the Democrat base continues.

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Originally Posted by Ashliana

What he identifies as is irrelevant. He frequently spews out alt-right talking points.

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Interesting stance from a liberal.

To be fair I haven't seen the far right propose taxes on the poor, unless by poor you mean we middle class poors.

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Originally Posted by Ashliana

Your #1 doesn't really address what I wrote

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Because you aren't putting forth any sort of argument.

Can't articulate what he doesn't like about Obamacare? You really think pk hates Obamacare because it's named Obamacare?

Provides no alternative to replace it? It's not pk's job to come up with an alternative to replace Obamacare, that's what politicians are for.

This is all "straight out of the GOP playbook"? I have named lots of things I don't like about Obamacare, go ahead and check out my posts in this very thread for some of them. I also do know what I would prefer our healthcare system to be like.

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Originally Posted by Ashliana

#2 doesn't even attempt to address what I wrote

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Again because you're spinning bullshit. Yes, pk hates Hillary, he has posts going back at least 4 years stating as such. Why is it such a surprise now that he would believe stories in regards to her and her foundation being corrupt? Oh Breitbart wrote the playbook on that?! Well surely that means ANYONE who believes the Clinton Foundation is an example of Hillary's corruption just means they're parroting back Breitbart.

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Originally Posted by Ashliana

your #3 confuses that issue with #5

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No, honestly you fucking little tool, I didn't "confuse" anything. pk has been harping about voter fraud since the primaries back when the DNC and Hillary were accused of rigging the primaries in Hillary's favor. This was back when he wanted a far leftist socialist to be our next president. But now that he still talks about voter fraud he's obviously a neo-con alt right winger? That is so dumb I can't even imagine time4fun backing you up on this one.

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Originally Posted by Ashliana

you're apparently totally ignorant of #4 and are presuming it doesn't matter

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I just wanted you to clarify what you meant. This is straight out of the Idiot's Playbook! Can't give details about what your position is and instead just deflect deflect deflect!

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Originally Posted by Ashliana

and your answer to #5, which was really #3, doesn't actually address the point.

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Again, what? Isn't Wikileaks/Russia accused of hacking the DNC? Isn't that what you're talking about? My bad, perhaps you're talking about something else. But as you've already demonstrated your inability to articulate your position because you follow the Idiot's Playbook I don't expect you to clarify what you meant.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

Provides no alternative to replace it? It's not pk's job to come up with an alternative to replace Obamacare, that's what politicians are for.

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It is a message board though, and I'm kind of curious what other options people are interested in as well.

Personally, I'm all for a single-payer system as long as it's voted on and stays at a state level.

Premiums are skyrocketing but who cares, we need to know what pk thinks!

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You're deliberately acting as obtuse as humanly possible in an attempt to simply exhaust the other party.

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The only ones being obtuse are the dumb fucks that thought you could drastically increase demand and have that lower costs.

Obtuse was thinking young adults would enroll.

#1 complaint, having the government force me to purchase a product.

Well, I tried.

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

1) You don't think. Not a surprise.
2) I'm shocked you didn't speak for everyone.
3) You are King of the dumb cunts.

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Dear God I am so tired of entitled straight white men over 35 being so angry all the time.

Sorry that the black guy has been in charge of you for 8 years. Sorry that a white woman is about to be in charge of you for 8 years.

(But not really)