14 Mass Shootings in the USA Over Memorial Day Weekend

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Originally Posted by Methais

Airplanes don't crash into buildings all by themselves either, as they both require human input.

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That’s not true. Hehe

Unless you are talking about a specific situation such as 9/11. Then you are correct.

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Originally Posted by Methais

Way to try and downplay it. He didn't just "get shot at" he literally got shot. With bullets that penetrated his body. And he almost died.

There's a pretty huge difference between "being shot" and "being shot at," not that I would expect a megatard like you to understand the difference though. Even if you weren't too stupid to understand it, you'd still be too full of shit to acknowledge it, because the only things you do is be a massive retard, and argue in bad faith.

TLDR: You're a giant tard like usual

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but in the eyes of the law, unless a death is involved, aren’t they both considered(the same) attempted murder and/or assault with a deadly weapon?

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Originally Posted by Solkern

Correct me if I’m wrong, but in the eyes of the law, unless a death is involved, aren’t they both considered(the same) attempted murder and/or assault with a deadly weapon?

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I don't know, but if they are that's kinda stupid... Attempted murder should be when you set out to do it.. the assault deadly charge like if you get in a fight and end up doing it.

there are different murder charges, and different manslaughter charges I would assume this would work the same.

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Originally Posted by Solkern

Correct me if I’m wrong, but in the eyes of the law, unless a death is involved, aren’t they both considered(the same) attempted murder and/or assault with a deadly weapon?

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Murder is most often legally defined as having some component of premeditated intent to kill. The prosecution has a higher burden of proof with attempted murder than with aggravated assault.

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Originally Posted by Solkern

Correct me if I’m wrong, but in the eyes of the law, unless a death is involved, aren’t they both considered(the same) attempted murder and/or assault with a deadly weapon?

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Attempted murder and assault with a deadly weapon are two different charges... notice how the words are different?

You've been corrected.

You're welcome.

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

Attempted murder and assault with a deadly weapon are two different charges... notice how the words are different?

You've been corrected.

You're welcome.

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Uh, yeah… anyways.

Pretty sure if you shoot someone(They live) or shoot at someone, it’s considered assault with a deadly weapon. If the intent was found to kill, both instances they would be charged with attempted murder. I don’t think being shot at, or being shot makes a difference if the victim lives, in the eyes of the law.

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Originally Posted by Solkern

Uh, yeah… anyways.

Pretty sure if you shoot someone(They live) or shoot at someone, it’s considered assault with a deadly weapon. If the intent was found to kill, both instances they would be charged with attempted murder. I don’t think being shot at, or being shot makes a difference if the victim lives, in the eyes of the law.

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Assault with a deadly weapon is a pretty broad charge, used for things like a suspect fleeing from police and almost hitting them with a car. But I see where you're going.

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Originally Posted by Solkern

Correct me if I’m wrong, but in the eyes of the law, unless a death is involved, aren’t they both considered(the same) attempted murder and/or assault with a deadly weapon?

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I don't think Methais was speaking about the perspective of the law, he was speaking about the perspective of the victim; there is a huge difference between being shot at and actually being shot.

Just like there is a huge difference if I punch you in the face and if I punch the air next to your face.

As far as the law, the main difference is intent; assault with a deadly weapon/aggravated assault doesn't necessarily mean the person intended to kill their victim, whereas attempted murder does. You can also be charged with both aggravated assault and attempted murder.

If Jim aims for Bob and shoots at him then it's pretty obvious Jim intended to kill Bob, but if Jim missed Bob and instead shot Larry then Jim didn't attempt to murder Larry, but he sure as hell did commit aggravated assault, and if Larry ended up dying then Jim also committed manslaughter and probably a bunch of other crimes.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

I don't think Methais was speaking about the perspective of the law, he was speaking about the perspective of the victim; there is a huge difference between being shot at and actually being shot.

Just like there is a huge difference if I punch you in the face and if I punch the air next to your face.

As far as the law, the main difference is intent; assault with a deadly weapon/aggravated assault doesn't necessarily mean the person intended to kill their victim, whereas attempted murder does. You can also be charged with both aggravated assault and attempted murder.

If Jim aims for Bob and shoots at him then it's pretty obvious Jim intended to kill Bob, but if Jim missed Bob and instead shot Larry then Jim didn't attempt to murder Larry, but he sure as hell did commit aggravated assault, and if Larry ended up dying then Jim also committed manslaughter and probably a bunch of other crimes.

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Wouldn’t Jim also be charged with attempted murder of Bob?

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Originally Posted by Solkern

Wouldn’t Jim also be charged with attempted murder of Bob?

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Yes.