Individual profit motive is not the same thing as enterprise profit motive, you hostile chamber.
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Individual profit motive is not the same thing as enterprise profit motive, you hostile chamber.
Both lead to decreased quality so they are the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Is that like both frogs and money are green so they are the same? Xeno is unimpressed, Terry, and if he borrows Xena's chakram you're gonna regret it.
Don't be stupid. Frogs make croaking noises so it's hard to pass them off as money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
I would say money and chameleons is a better example.
ROADS???? HAHAHAHHAHQuote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Now I know you clearly don't know what they fuck you are talking about.
No one is saying that they are perfect and in most places the roads are in relatively good repair. There are certainly places that make you wonder though. The problems with the government are also problems with the people, you know us. People are more worried about their short sighted goals then any long term solutions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Five
Yeah like not driving down a mine field and destroying you car. Or when you have to sit in 4 hours of traffic because they closed down 8 miles of road to work on 250 feet of it. Minneapolis at least half ass gets it and does some of the work at night. St. Paul is a shithole and has terrible roads and they were designed by a bunch of drunk Irish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
P.S.
MnDOT gets transportation funds from motor fuel tax, vehicle sales tax, vehicle registration fees, investment income, the federal government, the state general fund and trunk highway bonds. Currently, the cost to construct one mile of roadway varies from $2-50 million per mile depending on the number of lanes and interchanges constructed and whether the location is urban or rural.
Latrin came up with some of the best Libertarian/neocon trolling ever. I'm proud.
You know, this is a really insensitive comparison to make when you know ex-military people read this board. Or I guess you just don't care about our troops like waywardgs? Pretty sad. Pretty sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Five
Well there's your problem, you live in Canada. Calling it the 51st state is a joke, it's really more of an unincorporated territory or desolate wilderness. Come on over to New England, auld ally!Quote:
Or when you have to sit in 4 hours of traffic because they closed down 8 miles of road to work on 250 feet of it. Minneapolis at least half ass gets it and does some of the work at night. St. Paul is a shithole and has terrible roads and they were designed by a bunch of drunk Irish.
P.S.
MnDOT gets transportation funds from motor fuel tax, vehicle sales tax, vehicle registration fees, investment income, the federal government, the state general fund and trunk highway bonds. Currently, the cost to construct one mile of roadway varies from $2-50 million per mile depending on the number of lanes and interchanges constructed and whether the location is urban or rural.
Buying a car from Big Head DBag car dealership benefits Big Head DBag. That's not charity. You're required to pay taxes if you are a part of this economy and those taxes pay for roads. Does that mean roads are charity spending? It's just not true that any time somebody pays for anything that benefits another it's charity. BTW, I've made no statement for or against charity but I will discuss it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
Charity is a great thing but I wouldn't go patting yourself on the back too hard about how it makes America great. Social programs only exist because we do not give enough money to charity to take care of these issues within our communities. If churches, families, communities and the people who live there could be counted on to be charitable we'd not have so many people on unemployment or welfare. They'd be getting taken care of by their charitable neighbors. One could say that welfare is actually the exact opposite of charity. Charity is voluntary, welfare programs have to be paid for from taxes because we, as a society, decided that there's value to do it and no one else is.
I realize no one would be refused medical care. Ronnie Reagan made that important. You may not like that I debunked the blackjack argument because you are gambling right now. If you face major health problems between now and the Jan 1 you may not be able to pay those bills. If you can't then we're looking at another bankruptcy or written off bad debt. The more people that don't pay the more the rest of society has to chip in. A real world example is FHA mortgage insurance. They took a beating on foreclosures so they not only raised mortgage insurance rates, they also made it a permanent fixture of FHA loans. All the people that gambled on home ownership with low down payments through FHA that lost, have caused the new home buyers who want FHA loans to pay much higher insurance premiums. That's how someone else's medical bills affect all of us.