More Obamacare fuckups

I'd like single payer too. We're not there yet but are heading in the right direction.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

That's like...exactly what I said...

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That's exactly what you said though it's not really germane to this discussion so I guess I made an assumption that you were thinking Medicaid expansion is somehow equal to the VA. I apologize.

Please don't smash my car.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

That's exactly what you said though it's not really germane to this discussion so I guess I made an assumption that you were thinking Medicaid expansion is somehow equal to the VA. I apologize.

Please don't smash my car.

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Umm.. PB said that government run healthcare did GREAT for those 40 people.

Then said wait till this gets rolling.. which Obama, Pelosi, and Reid all said that ACA is a MEANS to single payer.

So.. you are wrong. PB bringing up how GREAT a government run program is makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Jarvan

Umm.. PB said that government run healthcare did GREAT for those 40 people.

Then said wait till this gets rolling.. which Obama, Pelosi, and Reid all said that ACA is a MEANS to single payer.

So.. you are wrong. PB bringing up how GREAT a government run program is makes sense.

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ACA's not government run healthcare. Will we eventually go that route? Maybe. Then again, maybe we won't. You're all just talking smack because the information I posted destroys another stupid talking point. You've just about run out of reasons to hate it.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

ACA's not government run healthcare. Will we eventually go that route? Maybe. Then again, maybe we won't. You're all just talking smack because the information I posted destroys another stupid talking point. You've just about run out of reasons to hate it.

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I only need one reason; that being the government's attempt to strong arm me into paying for it against my will.

Another ACA convert.

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"I don't read what the Democrats have to say about it because I think they're full of it," he told his friend Bob Leinhauser, who suggested he sign up.

That refrain changed this year when a faulty aortic valve almost felled Angstadt. Suddenly, he was facing a choice: Buy a health plan, through a law he despised, that would pay the lion's share of the cost of the life-saving surgery - or die. He chose the former.

"A lot of people I talk to are so misinformed about the ACA," Angstadt said. "I was, before Bob went through all this for me. I would recommend it to anybody and, in fact, have encouraged friends, including the one guy who hauls my logs."

Testify

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So the guy refused to have health insurance and even refused to see a doctor until he could barely walk and when a doctor finally said "You need this surgery or you'll die" he finally decided to get healthcare and this somehow has anything to do with Obamacare?

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

So the guy refused to have health insurance and even refused to see a doctor until he could barely walk and when a doctor finally said "You need this surgery or you'll die" he finally decided to get healthcare and this somehow has anything to do with Obamacare?

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Yup. On a few different levels yes.

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Yup. On a few different levels yes.

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You sure it isn't a story about a stubborn man refusing to have health insurance for over 5 years?

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

You sure it isn't a story about a stubborn man refusing to have health insurance for over 5 years?

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It's that too.