I'm more pointing out the sedition laws, the Japanese internment camps, all the other things generally done by dictator/tyrants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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I'm more pointing out the sedition laws, the Japanese internment camps, all the other things generally done by dictator/tyrants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
And my statement was about him ceasing elections, among a couple other things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
The Ukrainian Constitution itself bans elections while Martial Law is declared, which has been in effect since 2022. The cannot be held until 6 months after Martial Law is lifted. Is he a dictator/tyrant for following his own nation's Constitution?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
"hey, every country does the same thing.. look at us in the 1860s and 1940s"Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Considering he is the one who declared Martial Law, then yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Yeah, I stand by what I said, no matter the means by which it was achieved. IMO, he canceled free and fair elections. You can go through machinations to come at it from different angles and perhaps you'll convince me otherwise though. I respect your opinions, we just differ here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
He also banned some political parties. People justified that by saying those parties were pro-Russian parties and they were at war with Russia.
Like...so? You either believe in democracy or you don't. When all you care about is getting your way then you don't want democracy, you indeed want a dictatorship as long as said dictator agrees with you.
Do you think he shouldn't have declared martial law?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
So, were we no longer a democracy when we banned certain parties in the 40s, 50s, and 60s?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
He is literally following the nation's Constitution. I mean, fine if you wanna disagree with it, but it is what it is. If it helps to put more Russians into the ground, oh well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
From my understanding, certain states banned the Communist party back then from being on the ballot because the state determined they could not take an oath to uphold our Constitution. I think such action is appropriate here or anywhere else when the stated goal of the political party is a violent revolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
I understand where you are coming from. When the enemy is at the gates, a Caesar is granted dictatorship powers. The problem is, as history has repeatedly shown, such people rarely if ever abandon such power when the war is over. Absolutely power corrupts absolutely. I have no reason to believe Zelensky is any different.