More Obamacare fuckups

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Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay

Nope. Nothing on my end changed. The ACA passing meant more out of cost to my employer and we're a non-profit so it's not like we have a whole lot of money to begin with. So they had to lose our employer provided subsidy and then our Healthnet provider for the company brought their Family Plan costs up from $487 to $1011 which forced almost the entire company onto the ACA. And guess what? Almost every single person with kids is either paying through the nose for their kids to be on their private plans or the kids are on MediCal, which sucks.

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Ya that does suck. I'm sorry to hear it.

It's all about who you quote.

On Thursday, the Obama administration announced that enrollment had reached six million. Using McKinsey's findings of 14 percent gaining new coverage, only 900,000 previously uninsured individuals will have acquired insurance as a result of the exchanges.

So, there remain nearly 35 million uninsured citizens. No additional enrollment in Obamacare for 2014 was scheduled after March 31, though the administration extended the deadline last week. The penalty for uninsured individuals has been delayed until 2016, reducing the motivation for additional sign-ups. The employer mandate has also been moved until 2016.

Given this analysis we reasonably can conclude:

The first four years of Obamacare have led to solving about 10 percent of the problem of uninsured citizens.

http://www.philly.com/philly/opinion...LXAqmk5CKTe.99

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Ya that does suck. I'm sorry to hear it.

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And it's not like I make a whole lot of money. But I was above 50% of the Area Median Income by about 1500 bucks annually. I clearly am not rich but I am not what I could consider poor either, but that's mostly because unlike most of America, I have some financial discipline and live within my means. I get my measily 10% disability from the VA and my GI Bill now, which helps a whole fucking lot, but I earned that shit.

And this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SluBPO4SCBw

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Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay

It's all about who you quote.

On Thursday, the Obama administration announced that enrollment had reached six million. Using McKinsey's findings of 14 percent gaining new coverage, only 900,000 previously uninsured individuals will have acquired insurance as a result of the exchanges.

So, there remain nearly 35 million uninsured citizens. No additional enrollment in Obamacare for 2014 was scheduled after March 31, though the administration extended the deadline last week. The penalty for uninsured individuals has been delayed until 2016, reducing the motivation for additional sign-ups. The employer mandate has also been moved until 2016.

Given this analysis we reasonably can conclude:

The first four years of Obamacare have led to solving about 10 percent of the problem of uninsured citizens.

http://www.philly.com/philly/opinion...LXAqmk5CKTe.99

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We'll see how this ends up. Is that link to an Op-ed? One thing I noticed is that he's using numbers from 2/1 from the Kinsey survey. They may be accurate through the entire enrollment period they may not.

• A February survey by consulting firm McKinsey & Co. found 27% of new enrollees were previously uninsured, but newer survey data from the nonprofit Rand Corp. and reports from marketplace officials in several states suggest that share increased in March.

Given this analysis we reasonably can conclude:

The first four years of Obamacare have led to solving about 10 percent of the problem of uninsured citizens.

No one has answered, who pays for this health insurance, can't be the gov't the gov't can't pay for anything. The gov't has no income, it just spends our tax dollars. So I have to assume, We are paying for the subsidies to Obamacare. I don't have a dictionary handy, can someone tell me the definition of socialism?

~Zz

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Originally Posted by zzentar

Given this analysis we reasonably can conclude:

The first four years of Obamacare have led to solving about 10 percent of the problem of uninsured citizens.

No one has answered, who pays for this health insurance, can't be the gov't the gov't can't pay for anything. The gov't has no income, it just spends our tax dollars. So I have to assume, We are paying for the subsidies to Obamacare. I don't have a dictionary handy, can someone tell me the definition of socialism?

~Zz

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so·cial·ism
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noun
1.
a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

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Originally Posted by Jarvan

And just wait till those 9.5 million more Americans find out that they also can't go to decent DR's because good Dr's generally don't wana deal with the shit the Government does. My Sister's pediatrician told her that out of her two practices (she has a separate one for medicaid for tax purposes) she would have to work 80 hours a day 7 days a week to break even on the medicaid one. The Government reimburses her less per patient then she pays her staff.


(The above evidence will be dismissed by WB, Back, Cwolff and likely Latrine. Then WB will post something opposite and say his is valid. This is standard procedure, do not be alarmed.)

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Why would you say I'd dismiss it? Do I post things like "This is such a lie it isn't even funny."?

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Originally Posted by cwolff

We'll see how this ends up. Is that link to an Op-ed? One thing I noticed is that he's using numbers from 2/1 from the Kinsey survey. They may be accurate through the entire enrollment period they may not.

• A February survey by consulting firm McKinsey & Co. found 27% of new enrollees were previously uninsured, but newer survey data from the nonprofit Rand Corp. and reports from marketplace officials in several states suggest that share increased in March.

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That's what I am saying dude. It depends on who you quote. A perfect example is how the LA Times initially reported on Senator Leland Yee when he got busted for Arms Trafficking. The initial articles used the word, "Democrat," zero times. After a week of being called out on that, they changed them to reflect political party affiliation. And this isn't the first time they've avoided helping burn the party they obviously support. It's WHO you quote.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

Well Ninjas they set a goal for Obamacare to get X number of people enrolled through the website so they had to force people out of their employer plan to meet this goal.

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They set out a goal of 7 million.

They have said 6 million have signed up.

Boom, goal met. Don't worry about the math.. this is the same entity as the IRS so you can trust them.

My suggestion is to trust them.

Or else.