Climate Change Report

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Originally Posted by Whirlin

So... the argument is that we need a millions years+ of data to prove global warming is man made, even if humanity can only survive the global warming pace for another 100-200 years?

Don't think I've ever said this on the forums... but I'm actually going to agree with Jarvan's earlier responses. But again point out that this is why we can't get to Jarvan's concerns, because everyone is so hung up on the first part to discuss the second part rationally.

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You want to discuss this rationally.. but start off with humanity destroying the earth within 200 years?

Stop.

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

You want to discuss this rationally.. but start off with humanity destroying the earth within 200 years?

Stop.

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So lets see your data. Surely, since you know better than everyone else what's going on, you can show us how you came to your conclusion?

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

You want to discuss this rationally.. but start off with humanity destroying the earth within 200 years?

Stop.

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The rock we stand on will most definitely still be here. So, no worries!

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

You want to discuss this rationally.. but start off with humanity destroying the earth within 200 years?

Stop.

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That's a cute way to not read. Keep practicing hard, and sooner or later you'll get the hang of it.

1. Climate change is one of the defining issues of our time.

Politicians have needlessly made it so.


2. Humans are changing the earth's climate.

No. You can't prove that at all. No one has been able to thus far. A 50 PPM change in C02 in something that makes up .0039% of the Atmosphere seems slightly ludicrous doesn't it?

We can however show that the Urban Heat Island effect does in fact change overall data. And it's been removed from the latest IPCC reports as an "anomaly," which sounds pretty bogus to me.

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3. The atmosphere and oceans have warmed, sea levels have risen, Arctic ice is declining.

The GRACE program through the University of Texas with a little help from NASA have shown that the changing gravitational field around the Earth has more effect on Sea Level than the theory of man-made global warming. http://www.csr.utexas.edu/grace/gallery/gravity/

C02 Level Changes - Considering how dramatic this NASA created chart is...you'd think we'd be in more trouble if C02 was the actual cause. No need to be an alarmist.

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Arctic Sea Ice VERUS Antarctic Sea Ice! The Ultimate battle!

A new NASA study shows that from 1978 to 2010 the total extent of sea ice surrounding Antarctica in the Southern Ocean grew by roughly 6,600 square miles every year, an area larger than the state of Connecticut. And previous research by the same authors indicates that this rate of increase has recently accelerated, up from an average rate of almost 4,300 square miles per year from 1978 to 2006. Meh.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...rctic-ice.html

Ocean Temperature changes globally - Since 1969

Hotter by .302 Degrees Farenheit

And don't forget about the Medieval Warming Period! Unless they were all doing some serious industrial shit that we didn't know about...

http://www.co2science.org/education/...ntpath/ch1.php

And the Little Ice Age right after that! (Which actually ended in the mid 1800s.)

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Originally Posted by Gelston

And the Little Ice Age right after that! (Which actually ended in the mid 1800s.)

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The reality is that we just don't know enough to make crazy assumptions and legislation that does nothing more than redistribute wealth and hurt the 3rd World.

I say we launch all nukes. For great justice.