Swift Boat Vets to set record straight

If you want to have a google war, so be it.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...1217-6595r.htm

In 1972, Mr. Bush left Texas to work on the Senate campaign and transferred to a squadron in the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Wing in Montgomery. He apparently missed drills during the election campaign, and that is why he returned later in November.
He would have held a desk job at the 187th because he was not qualified on the wing's reconnaissance jets. "It's quite common for a pilot and other Guard members to go to another unit in another state," Mr. Campenni said. "We can 'pull drills' there and get credit for your duty in your state."
Mr. Bush left the Guard six months early to attend Harvard business school and was honorably discharged in October 1973.

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Originally posted by Backlash

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Originally posted by Jack
John Kerry hasn't made his records available to the public. What makes you want to trust him then?

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He has. Look it up. I'm tired of this argument already.

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The records that would completely prove or disprove most of the claims against his Purple Hearts are not released. He has yet to release his medical records.

This is all George W. Bush has to say on his site about his military service.

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He received a bachelor's degree from Yale University in 1968, then served as an F-102 fighter pilot in the Texas Air National Guard.

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This is what John Kerry has on his site about his military service.

This site compares the two.

Yes, I Google.

[edited to fix GWB link. LOL]

[Edited on 8-12-2004 by Backlash]

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Originally posted by Jack
If you want to have a google war, so be it.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...1217-6595r.htm

In 1972, Mr. Bush left Texas to work on the Senate campaign and transferred to a squadron in the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Wing in Montgomery. He apparently missed drills during the election campaign, and that is why he returned later in November.
He would have held a desk job at the 187th because he was not qualified on the wing's reconnaissance jets. "It's quite common for a pilot and other Guard members to go to another unit in another state," Mr. Campenni said. "We can 'pull drills' there and get credit for your duty in your state."
Mr. Bush left the Guard six months early to attend Harvard business school and was honorably discharged in October 1973.

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If you must google something, at least use an article that's more up to date. The article you posted was one given around the time this whole AWOL thing reached the forefront. In February he gave his records. In July, those records were discovered to have huge gaps.

And again, I'm going to have to point out the way the National Guard works. If you miss drills, you have to make them up at a later date. If you don't, you won't be honorably discharged, and you will be charged with AWOL, or in extreme cases Desertion. George W. Bush recieved an Honorable Discharge, and was charged with niether AWOL, nor Desertion. So lets say he missed six months worth of drills. That's a total of 24 duty days. In order to have recieved his Honorable Discharge, he would have had to make up those days at some point. Given that he recieved an honorable discharge, it is obvious that he did just that. The whole Bush is a Deserter thing has been disproven time and time again. Those who bring it up over and over again, are those that refuse to understand that the National Guard, and Active Duty Military play by different rules.

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Originally posted by Ilvane
It's not hogwash, it was true. How do you think he got into the National guard?

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The same way a (small) number of my dad's pals did. None of them had a father at the head of the CIA.

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Originally posted by Axhinde
The fact that he joined the Air National Guard speaks for itself. Wuss.

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For clarity's sake, are you saying that because of the National Guard part or the Air part (or both)?

Finally, if people are going to question Bush getting an honorable discharge, I don't see how they can point at the Navy giving Kerry medals as proof.

<<Finally, if people are going to question Bush getting an honorable discharge, I don't see how they can point at the Navy giving Kerry medals as proof.>>

Besides Kerry being there to actually receive them? Besides one person he saved, a registered republican, requesting that Kerry receive one of those medals? Besides his medical report showing shrapnel injuries? Starting to wonder if people need to die in war or go AWOL to be considered fit for command in a neocon's eyes.

Easy there, chief. I was pointing out that people can't say "Well, the Navy gave him medals, therefore it must be legit" if they're going to turn around and say "No, stupid National Guard, Bush still sucks".

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Originally posted by Latrinsorm
Easy there, chief. I was pointing out that people can't say "Well, the Navy gave him medals, therefore it must be legit" if they're going to turn around and say "No, stupid National Guard, Bush still sucks".

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You are now, officially, Far-Left-hand-field-sorm.

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Originally posted by Ravenstorm
I'd have to say that Bush's service record - or lack of one in this case - is fairly significant in relation to this debate and the election in general. For someone who avoided a war and any possibility of injury or death, this 'war president' was certainly quite willing to risk the lives of others with an unnecessary war in Iraq.

So since Republicans keep bringing up Kerry's perhaps dubious record, they also need to bring up Bush's cowardice and hypocrisy.

Fair is fair after all.

Raven

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Being a soldier is not a prerequisite for respecting the value of life. Did you serve in the armed forces Raven? If you didn't, then I can assume by your logic that you have no problem with killing people or sending people to die needlessly?