A Republican brought an action which caused an independent state Supreme Court to remove Don Insurrection from the primary ballot.. but but Biden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anebriated
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A Republican brought an action which caused an independent state Supreme Court to remove Don Insurrection from the primary ballot.. but but Biden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anebriated
:) The answer is no, Trump is ineligible to hold high federal office. It's mystifying Republicans have so many issues with upholding the United States Constitution and the Fourteenth Amendment against insurrectionists holding high office.
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Maine's top election official rules Trump ineligible for 2024 primary ballot
CAMDEN, Maine — Maine’s top election official ruled Thursday that Donald Trump is constitutionally ineligible to appear on the state’s primary ballot next year, fueling a national effort to disqualify the former president over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election.
The decision by Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows, a Democrat, follows a bombshell Colorado Supreme Court ruling last week that concluded the 14th Amendment to the Constitution prohibits Trump from serving in office again due to his role in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.
However, Bellows' office said her decision would not be enforced until the courts weigh in, "given the compressed timeframe, the novel constitutional questions involved, the importance of this case, and impending ballot preparation deadlines."
In a 34-page decision, Bellows wrote that Trump's actions around Jan. 6 compelled her to rule him ineligible.
"The weight of the evidence makes clear that Mr. Trump was aware of the tinder laid by his multi-month effort to delegitimize a democratic election, and then chose to light a match," she wrote, adding that he "used a false narrative of election fraud to inflame his supporters and direct them to the Capitol to prevent certification of the 2020 election and the peaceful transfer of power."
Trump is expected to appeal the decision and others like it to the U.S. Supreme Court, which will likely have to settle the issue. In the meantime, state election officials and lower courts have been forced to grapple with the unprecedented constitutional question on their own.
In a statement immediately after Maine's decision, Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung said a court filing was forthcoming.
"We will quickly file a legal objection in state court to prevent this atrocious decision in Maine from taking effect," he said.
Cheung also went after Bellows.
“The Maine Secretary of State is a former ACLU attorney, a virulent leftist and a hyper-partisan Biden-supporting Democrat who has decided to interfere in the presidential election on behalf of Crooked Joe Biden," he said said. "We are witnessing, in real-time, the attempted theft of an election and the disenfranchisement of the American voter."
Trump had previously demanded that Bellows recuse herself from the case, arguing she is too partisan — she is a former Democratic state senator — and too prejudiced because she had publicly stated she viewed the Jan. 6 attack as an “insurrection.”
So far most courts have sided with Trump, with recent decisions in Michigan, Arizona and Minnesota ruling against citizen-led petitions to disqualify him and affirming Trump’s right to appear on the ballot in those states.
Trump has railed against the effort to remove him from the ballot as politically motivated attempts to undemocratically disenfranchise him and his supporters.
At issue is Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which was written after the Civil War to prevent former Confederate officers from holding office in the newly reunited states. The clause bars from public office any former official who swore an oath to the Constitution and then “engaged in insurrection or rebellion.”
The Colorado Court concluded that Trump should be considered an insurrectionist for instigating violence in the lead-up to Jan. 6, though it did not enforce the decision immediately, expecting an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.
While the current cases pertain to whether Trump can appear on Republican primary ballots, they would lay the groundwork for potentially removing him from the ballot in next November’s general election, if upheld.
The effort to disqualify Trump under the 14th Amendment had been paid relatively little attention until the Colorado decision, but the stakes are now higher as other states consider similar arguments with little time to spare.
Both Maine and Colorado hold their primary on Super Tuesday, March 5, but federal law requires state officials to send ballots to overseas military service members and others 45 days before an election, meaning the ballots need to be prepared in January.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/rcna131375
again, these states are just doing this for the headlines. Nothing is actually happening here.Quote:
However, Bellows' office said her decision would not be enforced until the courts weigh in
Full text of Maine Secretary of State ruling..
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documen...-petitions.pdf
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Originally Posted by Anebriated
The two people who most hope voters agree with you are Trump and Biden, because they both want Republicans to nominate Trump. I have to think that as more and more tribunals determine that Trump engaged in insurrection, his support among Republican primary voters will fall. If Trump is not the nominee, then Biden will be in Trouble.
So far as I know, every single group that has reviewed the evidence and issued a report on whether or not Trump engaged in insurrection has concluded that he did. J6 Commission, Colorado Supreme Court, Maine Secretary of State.
Just more election interference. Got to love the fact that the Dems have to resort to lawfare because they know they can't beat him.
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Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
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It's simple, Democrats are the biggest threat to "Democracy" there is. The last time a Presidential candidate was removed from the ballot, it was by Dems and it was Abraham Lincoln. Then he won and they shot him. Every time a Republican wins since Nixon, there is all kinds of crying to end the EC, then there is the harping for mail in cheating (ballots) and now it's a bunch of crying to use the courts to do what the Dems don't think they can do in the ballot box. When are you Leftist pieces of shit going to get it through your head, your policies suck, they hurt people and the people are tired of it? The answer is never since you all think you are smarter, more civilized and more "enlightened" that the people. You can't beat Trump without cheating, this just just a thinly veiled effort at cheating and everyone with half a brain knows it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
Wake up and smell your parties racism, fascism, hypocrisy and destruction because you are sure burning it down right now.
You really think that isn't the case? :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
If Trump is such a weak candidate, then dems should be jumping for joy to crush him in 2024 and then throw it in everyone's face for the next 4 years instead of trying to prevent him from being on the ballot with all this weak bullshit they're doing.
The people trying to remove Trump from the ballot are Republicans. That was the case in both Colorado and Maine. If Democrats wanted to keep Trump off the ballot, they would file well financed lawsuits in every state. Instead, individual Republican candidates and voters are bringing suits. Several unsuccessful suits have been brought by a single longshot Republican presidential candidate, John Castro, who has not pursued the suits vigorously, probably because of lack of funds. After the successes by individual voters in Colorado and Maine, you can expect better organized and better financed groups to bring suits in other states, or perhaps somebody will give Mr. Castro enough money to do it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Having Trump removed from the ballot by the courts would be an absolute disaster for Democrats. It would both energize Republican voters and guarantee that Republicans select a stronger opponent for Biden in the general election.
It would be a personal legal disaster for Trump too, because he would lose the ability to pardon himself. That might be why Heley promised yesterday to pardon Trump if she is elected. But Haley cannot pardon Trump for a criminal conviction in Georgia. If Trump were President, Georgia would not be able to prosecute him or put him in jail while he was in the White House. People, including me, who originally dismissed Fani Willis in Georgia are having to second guess themselves. Closer inspection shows that she is quietly formidable. The risk of a Georgia conviction is growing. If Haley pardons Trump and he is convicted in Georgia, he won't get to serve the sentence in a federal prison after Haley's pardon.