Terrorists break into US Capitol Building

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Originally Posted by Back

Sure there's subjective truth, like for you vanilla maybe your favorite ice cream flavor but it's not for someone else, and then there's objective truth where we all agree that ice cream is yummy and delicious. Okay okay that's subjective too but we can all agree that ice cream is cold.

So let's use your example of facts being right or wrong in saying that objective truth is the same thing.

The objective truth about the insurrectionists who assaulted police officers and broke into the nation's capital to disrupt the counting of a free and fair election is indisputable if not only for the video evidence. We saw them do it. It's not debatable or subjective.

The special attorney's investigation outlines Trump's crime as conspiring to obstruct an official proceeding. This has not been settled in court however. If we were to say conclusively that it was objectively true or factual we would need to see it play out in court in front of a judge, jury, and God and all creation. In America at the peak of civilization this is the best way we have to determine objective truth that we can all agree on.

To me the evidence is clear, evidence that I watched with my own eyes, that it is a fact that Trump conspired to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power and used lies to support that even when he knew otherwise.

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That's because it was spoon fed to you and you swallowed it all up.

You didn't question it... you just accepted it like a good little toddler would.

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Originally Posted by Back

Yeah not cool with assassination in general certainly not US citizens without due process. Not cool with blanket immunity for anyone really. Be my guest take him to court. After the American court take him to the ICC.

It won't change the fact that felon and sexual predator Trump pardoned all the people who assaulted police officers and broke into the capital to stop the counting of a free and fair election of the United States.

The only reason Trump wasn't convicted was because he won the election. He shouldn't have even been able to run in my opinion.

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The only reason he was charged in the first place is because he ran for office again. Stop being dumb.

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Originally Posted by Back

The only reason he wasn't convicted was because the Republican party has sold their souls to the Golden calf Antichrist white supremacist devil in return for money and power.

Although recent statements by some Congress people have me wondering if they aren't beholden by threats of violence from crazy Trump supporters in their districts.

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I wonder what it's like to be even 1% this retarded.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

Sometimes when I read your comments I get irked at you. But then you post something like this and I remember it’s not entirely your fault; you are a victim of the Democrat party. They have brainwashed you so well that there is little to no hope for you.

Next time you post something dumb I’ll try to remember that I should be mad at the Democrats who fucked you up. They used you for the useful idiot that you are.

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Weak minded retards are the democrat party's bread & butter.

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Originally Posted by Back

I have to disagree with you. There are not individual truths. There is only one. We don't get to pick and choose what is true and what isn't. You can believe what you want but if you choose not to believe the truth you're going to be on the outside of reality. This is a basic understanding mankind has had for centuries.

I just saw an interesting speech about this the other day. Except in the speech the man was speaking about morals. As a society we have, or had at one point, a shared structure of morals. We still do for the most part but right now there is a belief that individuals can pick and choose their morals. And while that's true the morals are still there whether people choose to view them or not.

He used a line from Abraham Lincoln that said if slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong.

As a civilization, keyword civil, we have to understand that together we must support each other's rights, share a common moral structure, and share a common truth in order to be successful.

The truth about January 6th cannot be argued away by saying some people don't believe this or that. What we have found as a society is that Trump gathered these people together on the day of the certification of the election, riled them up with lies about a rigged election, and sent them to the capital to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power. Those who were caught on camera were given due process in a court of law before a judge, a jury of their peers, and God and found to be guilty of crimes such as assaulting police officers to name a few.

There is no way around that truth.

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How many genders are there? 2? Or more?

And what is a woman?

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Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet

Truth is subjective and is influenced by one’s beliefs, values, and experiences. Facts are verifiable, objective, and can be proven true or false.

Let’s look at the facts of January 6th. What specifically did Trump say or do that incited the crowd to violence? You have been asked this question several times by PB and others, but you seem unable to present any facts that support your claim. “Fight like hell” isn’t enough and doesn’t meet the legal standard of inciting a riot or committing any crime.

https://youtu.be/8Aaymp0ZRpc?si=xWMKNDErDvg-OXeI

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Originally Posted by Back

Sure there's subjective truth, like for you vanilla maybe your favorite ice cream flavor but it's not for someone else, and then there's objective truth where we all agree that ice cream is yummy and delicious. Okay okay that's subjective too but we can all agree that ice cream is cold.

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Ice cream being cold is subjective. If it melts in the summer sun before you eat it, you might say it’s not cold. Cold is also relative. As a Texan I consider temperatures in the 50s cold, where as an Alaskan may find that warm. We can scientifically verify the temperature of ice cream served and say it’s X degrees and therefore frozen. That is fact. See the difference?

What is fact is that Trump was never convicted of any crimes related to January 6th nor can you seem to articulate any tangible evidence that he committed a crime. Your feelings are clouding your judgement.

Hey Back are you ever going to tell us what Trump specifically said during his January 6 rally that somehow turned everybody violent?

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Originally Posted by Methais

Hey Back are you ever going to tell us what Trump specifically said during his January 6 rally that somehow turned everybody violent?

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I think Twitter's excuse for why they banned Trump for "inciting violence" is the best one. The tweet in question? He said that he wasn't going to go to Biden's inauguration.

You can't even make this shit up.

Just a reminder of what happened on Jan 6 2021.

https://youtu.be/Iludfj6Pe7w

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Originally Posted by Back

Just a reminder of what happened on Jan 6 2021.

https://youtu.be/Iludfj6Pe7w

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Just a reminder that you're a complete retard:

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Originally Posted by Back

Ok, I was wrong about the Mueller investigation finding collusion. My mistake. I conflated that with the finding of Russian interference. My sincerest apologies to anyone who was offended. :bigsmile:

It is true that Trump said "fine people" but later clarified it.

The Biden laptop showed the messy life of Hunter but no one was convicted of anything over anything found on it. Keep dreaming.

Trump was impeached for the Ukraine phone call on obstructing Congress and inciting an insurrection on Jan 6.

On Jan 6 insurrectionists attacked Capital and Metropolitan police, committed unlawful entry, obstructing an official proceeding which happened to be the counting of the American people's votes in a free and fair election, conspiracy, theft, destruction of government property, and many more things while chanting Hang Mike Pence.

No seriously fuck off with the Jan 6 defense bullshit already.

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