Yeah, she lost the presidency.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
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Yeah, she lost the presidency.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
Thanks James Comey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
I think you can thank Bill Clinton for that. If he had never met with AG Lynch then Comey wouldn't have had to make those moves.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
Bill had to put the fear of God in Lynch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
A true retard, being truly retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
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Originally Posted by RichardCranium
I have a hard time believing he wears the pants in that relationship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Unless that was sarcasm punctuation in which case, I fail.
You think he wanted to be first husband? I don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
I lol'd.
So this happened...
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“Our staff concluded that the [intelligence community’s] conclusions were accurate and on point,” the panel’s vice chairman, Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-Va.), said Wednesday in a joint statement with Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), its chairman. “The Russian effort was extensive, sophisticated, and ordered by President Putin himself for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton,” Warner continued.
So this happened...
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Originally Posted by cwolff
So... still no collusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Weird.
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We had nothing to do with Russians.
Ok, maybe we had something to do with a few Russians.
Ok, maybe it was more than a few, but there was no collusion.
Ok, maybe there was collusion, but it doesn’t matter. https://t.co/A9iGsyrc3p https://twitter.com/alexzfinley/stat...739887616?s=19
Did Rudy actually say that its ok to take accept something of value from a foreign government that will help you win an election?Quote:
Rudy Giuliani on Russia investigation: "When I ran against [Democrats] they were looking for dirt on me every day, I mean, that's what you do...Nothing illegal about that. And even if it comes from a Russian or a German or an American, it doesn't matter." @IngrahamAngle https://t.co/ddFaxZR44z
His back up defense is that they would have colluded if they could, but unfortunately they weren't able to.
They're paying Rudy nothing and getting every penny's worth
Your last two post have had no link and linked Twitter, respectively.
The links work for me. They are links to twitter
The warner quote does not have link though.
LMAO. I don't doubt for a second that they had an informant. Possibly Carter Page.Quote:
Wow, word seems to be coming out that the Obama FBI “SPIED ON THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WITH AN EMBEDDED INFORMANT.” Andrew McCarthy says, “There’s probably no doubt that they had at least one confidential informant in the campaign.” If so, this is bigger than Watergate!
The irony is that trump is Watergate and the LEO's are doing their job.
BTW: that quote is from a trump tweet
From the NYT yesterday: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/u...stigation.html
They also used NSL's:
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The F.B.I. obtained phone records and other documents using national security letters — a secret type of subpoena — officials said. And at least one government informant met several times with Mr. Page and Mr. Papadopoulos, current and former officials said. That has become a politically contentious point, with Mr. Trump’s allies questioning whether the F.B.I. was spying on the Trump campaign or trying to entrap campaign officials.
cwolff is Himmler - confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Oh so they did tap his wires? Or other peoples? Very interesting. I'll owe donald a beer for calling him a liar about thatQuote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
You're trying too hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Donald doesn't drink.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Ya, I'm not actually going to meet him up for a drink.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
So you are lying? Reported.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
There’s nothing “him” about cwolff. At all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
OH OK THANKS FOR CLARIFYING!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Maybe buy him McDonalds or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Or buy him a steak and spend the following 3 weeks going nuts over it being well done with ketchup. Because that's how you determine if a president should be impeached or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
I never heard of this guy.
from the daily beastQuote:
Paul Manafort’s former son-in-law will reportedly cooperate with federal investigators and has cut a plea deal. According to Reuters, Jeffrey Yohai, who was previously married to Manafort’s daughter, could be asked to assist with special counsel Robert Mueller’s prosecution of Manafort, the former Trump campaign manager. Manafort has pleaded not guilty to the plethora of charges against him, and continues to fight the special counsel in court.
To be fair, it should be critiqued.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Whoa! Trump really went at it this morning. He's still mad about not being invited to The Wedding.
And continuing this afternoon..
This is the article he is talking about. I was planning to quote the part Trump mentioned about Mueller giving up on the Russia investigation, but I couldn't find that part of the article.
Hes losing it. They ought to have him step aside and let Pence take the reins until trump gets his shit together
We already know. No need to keep reminding us.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
President Trump's not wrong though.
One year and still no collusion.
Yeah and you're the only one who believes that. But most likely you don't believe there wasn't any collusion. You just like to make liberals mad, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
It's disturbing that people like yourself aren't alarmed by Putin's attempts to influence on our country. You do realize he wants America to fail?
What is more terrible is that you and other Liberal/Socialist yahoos don't understand that the policies you espouse ARE making America fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Most people don’t believe there was any collusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
The only ones left who do are the extremely retarded like you and cwolffellatio.
But feel free to explain why Mueller still has literally 0 evidence.
The investigation just turned 1 year old today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I think the real problem is the forces that pit us against each other. Again, something Putin wants and has been working for. An American nation divided, fighting itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
America is still an experiment in democracy. There is nothing like it in the history of humankind. Its pretty impressive that it is still going despite everything going against it.
There's something wrong with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Yup. They created a market and found that it was profitable but its out of control now. The right wing media dug itself a hole. They've got to keep peddling Bullshit or the whole conspiracy theory based movement falls apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
It was all too easy for the FSB to exploit this.
You sound EXACTLY like a Republican.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
I used to be one and am appalled at what's become of the "Grand Old Party"Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
That sounds like terrible timing for influencing the midterms but if the report isn't horrible against trump then they will have a couple months to spin it as a win.Quote:
WASHINGTON — The special counsel plans to finish by Sept. 1 the investigation into whether President Trump obstructed the Russia inquiry, according to the president’s lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, who said on Sunday that waiting any longer would risk improperly influencing voters in the midterm elections in November.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/20/u...mid=tw-nytimes
I'm just saying if you change "right wing media" to MSM then you have a right wing talking point.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Which means Back has a point.
Ya, I think a lot of folks say that. The idea is predicated on the theory that all journalism is anti-conservative/pro-liberal, therefore pro republican journalism is simply an un-covered perspective. IMO, it's a false equivalency. It's high time for the GOP to stand up for some truth over party.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
2016 is a great example. Also; Fake news is much more heavily created and promoted on the right. It's propaganda masquerading as "news". Even Fox's news division struggles to educate their viewers who seem to tune in more for the comfort of being told what they want to hear than actual news.
Yeah, no. What I'm saying is that both sides are sky screaming about the exact same thing. It's always the other sides fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Sorry Backtrash, I only deal in facts. Fact is: No evidence of Trump colluding with Russians. The only ones that still hang onto some crazy hope that there is, are liberals who are STILL crying over the election. Like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You're being easily manipulated by others who want America to fail.. and it's not Putin.Quote:
It's disturbing that people like yourself aren't alarmed by Putin's attempts to influence on our country. You do realize he wants America to fail?
And look who's back to claim the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Well done... although you should make these move when time4retarded is on. We could use a good cage match between the two of you.
In this Russia investigation case it's the same side fighting itself with Republicans appointed by trump leading the DOJ and republicans leading the investigation and republicans being investigated. trumps does an excellent job of muddying the waters but this is really a republican thing. Dems are certainly hoping for a vigorous investigation and want trump to get fucked, but don't lose sight of the single political party nature of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
There's way more to this than "both sides". That explanation is too simple and absolves you of responsibility. As an idea it's absolutely killing us. Especially now as we deal with a potus with zero sense of responsibility or appreciation for history. There was a program about McCain on TV last night. We're going to look back and see him as the last of a breed that put party before country. So far, that's a right wing problem. Perhaps it'll spread to the left, but it hasn't yet. Who knows, at some point the left may become as horrible as the right but so far they've not embraced the same type of means to achieve any end.
You know who else calls real journalists "fake news" and MSM? Putin's Russia. Their loyal news agencies are straight up propaganda machines.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
Dude. Think about it for a second. When your government tells you not to believe any independent journalists out there where do you think they expect you to get your information? They (the government) want you to unquestioningly believe everything they tell you. Are you really going to trust politicians over independent journalists?
You're retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Holy shit. Yeah, we may as well not discuss anything politically anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
I don't trust any of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
What's wrong with McCain? I didn't agree with him on everything but he stood for something. Up until Palin, he had my vote and today he and a handful of others are willing to hold a line against the debasement of the GOP.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
People like McCain are what's wrong with the party.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
And you're retarded.
Honest question: What television stations, in your head, do you believe are "independent journalists" and not bias to the left or the right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Good luck getting a straight answer from Cracklash on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
The only thing he stood for was to be elected and to hold onto his power in the Senate.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
He would do or say anything to that end.
Tomorrow's Tuesday... he might just get drunk enough to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
In before you get rekt again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimgar
What's it like, to do all this hoop jumping, making new accounts and new email addresses, sign up, post a couple times, get outted for being a retarded troll and get banned.. all for a measly $25.00 that you feel you were robbed of?
Damn son.. that's downright pathetic.
You are the one that fantasizing about making money doing gay porn. No one else has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimgar
Sorry. Choking on a big black dick sounds more your hobby. Not mine.
OK GRIMGAY!!!!!!!!!!!!1111Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimgar
More of a Necrophobe. And not in the manner where he is afraid of you.. just that he hopes you choke on that big black dick you fantasize about all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimgar
Does acknowledging a gay person's gayness make them a homophobe? Why is that, Grimgay?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimgar
lol @ how desperate Necro is for me to give him attention
https://i.imgur.com/B1edsnK.png
Not really, I left out a lot of info in my response, as I figured there was a 50/50 chance it was you. If I wasn't making an effort to not just assume that all new accounts are you, then it would have been 100%. Which in the back of my mind, it was, but I tried to give the benefit of the doubt anyway, mainly because you hadn't started licking cwolff's asshole yet in the politics folder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimgar
It's hilarious how desperate you are for my attention though. Not hilarious for you though. For you it's pathetic, but for the rest of us it's hilarious what a train wreck of a socially awkward sack of autistic herpes you are.
The only one guaranteed to get got here is you anyway because in b4 rekt for the 95837042370429th time.
So you didn't comprehend anything I said at all. You also admitted to licking cwolff's asshole. Gross.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimgar
Literally 0 people here are shocked by this.
In b4 rekt.
:lol:
All this for $25 dollars...
Who stole your money Necro. Tell us so we can blame him for your very existence.
I heard it was an Italian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Necro has a thing for Italians both because he wants my massive dong, and also because Wyrom is Italian and Necro has a boner for him too. I’d say huge boner but there’s nothing huge about Necro except for his retardedness.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
This was from WSJ. There's no way trump does the interview and that's never been in doubt. I'm sick of these newsrooms pretending like it's still up in the air. The fucking guy can't keep his stories straight from one minute to the next. No way he can pull off this interview.Quote:
Giuliani Says He Opposes Letting Trump Speak to Mueller
Should President Donald Trump choose to testify, Rudy Giuliani said he would want interview to take place mid-July
By Peter Nicholas
May 22, 2018 7:22 p.m. ET
Lawyers for President Donald Trump are increasingly skeptical of letting him give an interview with prosecutors running the Russia investigation, but are thinking through how to prepare him for the possible high-stakes session nonetheless.
So.. still no collusion?
Shocker.
the Mueller team has asked for the courts to begin the sentencing process on George Papadopoulos, indicating his cooperation is no longer needed
thanks. Not sure what any of us would have done today had you not posted this. Thanks again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Don't you see what this means?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
It means OMG THIS IS REALLY IT OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111
This WaPo piece has some real gems in it from Guiliani. The dems that have a national stage won't do much about it though. I'm getting frustrated that the dems are totally incapable of making hay from all this political sunshing.
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By Josh Dawsey
May 23rd at 3:33 PM
President Trump’s attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani switched gears Wednesday, saying that he would prefer the president grant an interview to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s office and that a decision would be made within “the next couple weeks.”
“I guess I’d rather do the interview. It gets it over with. It makes my client happy,” he said in an interview with The Washington Post. “The safe course you hear every lawyer say is don’t do the interview, and that’s easy to say in the abstract. That’s much harder when you have a client who is the president of the United States and wants to be interviewed.”
Giuliani had expressed skepticism in recent days about an interview with the team investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election, telling the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday that his decision would be no if a choice had to be made immediately. “If they said you have to do it now, the answer would have to be no,” Giuliani told the Journal.
In Wednesday morning’s interview with The Post, Giuliani said the president sometimes seesaws on whether he wants to do an interview. “There have been a few days where he says, ‘Maybe you guys are right,’ ” Giuliani said, referring to Trump attorneys who have warned against an interview. “Then he goes right back to, ‘Why shouldn’t I?’ ”
Giuliani said he was concerned that the president would become a target or that the interview would be a perjury trap, because the “truth is relative.” The president’s legal team continues to try to set limitations on an interview, including the duration and questions posed, he said.
“They may have a different version of the truth than we do,” Giuliani said.
Many of Trump’s advisers have expressed concern that he would be accused of committing perjury in an interview.
Giuliani said the legal team did expect questions on Trump’s conduct after he took office.
The former New York mayor said that he was handling much of the public-facing role for Trump’s legal team, while Jane and Martin Raskin — two Florida lawyers new to the team — are reviewing facts and interacting with Mueller’s office.
He also said new White House lawyer Emmet Flood was preparing memos explaining how the office could fight a subpoena to testify or challenge any intent to indict the president.
Giuliani also said the president was unlikely to make changes at the Justice Department and had no intention of firing Mueller, Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein or Attorney General Jeff Sessions — all three of whom have come under sustained attack from the president.
“I don’t think he is going to make changes. I wouldn’t advise it,” he said.
“Before I was his lawyer, more of his political adviser, we might talk about it,” he said. “We don’t talk about it at all now.”
Giuliani said he speaks with the president most days and that Trump appreciates the vociferous defense he gives him on TV. He attributed the president’s increasing talk about the probe on Twitter to optimism. “He feels the public opinion is turning in his favor,” Giuliani said.
“Why is this still going on? Whatever they have — why don’t they conclude it?” Giuliani said, describing the president’s thinking. “His tweeting has been effective.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-so...231215529.htmlQuote:
The FBI has obtained secret wiretaps collected by Spanish police of conversations involving Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s Central Bank who has forged close ties with U.S. lawmakers and the National Rifle Association, that led to a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. during the gun lobby’s annual convention in Louisville, Ky., in May 2016, a top Spanish prosecutor said Friday.
José Grinda, who has spearheaded investigations into Spanish organized crime, said that bureau officials in recent months requested and were provided transcripts of wiretapped conversations between Torshin and Alexander Romanov, a convicted Russian money launderer. On the wiretaps, Romanov refers to Torshin as “El Padrino,” the godfather.
“Just a few months ago, the wiretaps of these telephone conversations were given to the FBI,” Grinda said in response to a question from Yahoo News during a talk he gave at the Hudson Institute, a conservative think tank in Washington. Asked if he was concerned about Torshin’s meetings with Donald Trump Jr. and other American political figures, Grinda replied: “Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned.”
No one cares.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Giuliani is probably too honest and that's a weird thing to say. He's not being a great lawyer but a good mouthpieceQuote:
Giuliani on Mueller attacks: "It is for public opinion, because eventually the decision here is going to be impeach, not impeach. Members of Congress, Democrats and Republicans, are going to be informed a lot by their constituents. So our jury... is the American people."
Bad news for political entertainment. Trump is going to stop tweeting about the Russia investigation and begin working on other matters. With this shift in emphasis, we might have to wait hours for the next witch hunt tweet.
He really has to buckle down and study for finals. LMAO
He's the psychological profile gift that keeps on giving
They will still peddle the witch hunt story, even with Gowdy saying this.Quote:
Andrew Desiderio
Verified account
@desiderioDC
Trey Gowdy is arguing on Fox News right now that the FBI acted properly when it used a confidential informant for the Trump campaign as part of the counter-intel investigation into Russia’s election interference.
4:07 PM - 29 May 2018 Andrew Desiderio
Duh, Gowdy is just a Dumbocrat posing as a Republican. Drain the swamp!Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
/s
Yup, he couldn't even make it 24 hours before crying some more about this on Twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
Trumps being bitching about Sessions for a year now because he recused himself from the Russia investigation. Because of the recusal the Deputy AG whom trump appointed is the head guy at Justice who oversees the Russian stuff. Does anyone know what disservice Sessions is doing by recusing? What's the explanation? I always see the coverage about Sessions recusal but have heard no explanations of how this damages trump. He still has a trump appointee in charge.
It's damaging to Trump, at least according to Trump, because his AG is supposed to protect him.
Sessions should have told Trump he was going to recuse himself if given the position ahead of time. I don't know if the question was asked before he was appointed so I don't know if he lied about it.
I have other thoughts on the investigation, it's investigators and circumstances but the Liberal crybullies on the forum continue to dismiss the facts of the matter in their fevered hopes that some non-collusion issue might be found with which to try and impeach Trump since they still can't get over the fact that he won.
Is Rod Rosenstein a liberal crybully that can't get over the fact that Trump won (and then appointed him deputy AG)? The only people dismissing facts is you and the gang of trolls that add nothing to the discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
How was Sessions supposed to know that he'd have to recuse himself? Has anyone answered that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
He did his senate hearing before the inauguration and that was a full month before trump was pressuring Comey to protect Flynn then ultimately firing Flynn. How was he supposed to know in December that he'd have to recuse himself from investigations heating the next year?
If there is a brewing storm/controversy and a call to action from politicians and you are interviewing for a job that is centered around that storm/controversy and you have some personal involvement that might affect your handling of such issues, you might want to bring that kind of thing up in your job interview.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
He was trumps man all along. One of trumps earliest supporters and trump put him up for AG during the transition. He didn't nominate himself and he didn't come out of nowhere. How was he supposed to know that trump would ratchet up the Russian investigations by supporting Flynn over Yates' warning and asking Comey for loyalty and to protect Flynn.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
No, you're all trying to absolve trump of his bad judgement. He obviously exercises a lot of bad judgement and it's ok to vote for him, yet still call him out for making bad decisions. You don't have to be in a cult.
Except you're forgetting why Sessions was hired. Trump knew he was involved with these Russian meetings and back channel communications. He hired Sessions to be a firewall. Lucky for the US though Sessions grew a bit of a spine and did the right thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
With the help of Chaffetz, Issa and the DOJ ethics office. He was kind of forced to recuse. The day before it came out that he lied about meeting Kislyak or some other Russians and the GOP demanded it along with democrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
In any case, the "He should have known" story is utter bunk and even if he didn't recuse; what the hell is he supposed to do? Fight Mueller at high noon with six shooters on the steps of the Capital?
You are a Liberal crybull and a lot of other things. Some facts you are denying, Muller's team is loaded with Liberal lawyers with a history of voting democrat and in several cases known public sympathies and/or contributions to DNC candidates. Mueller was a fairly close friend of Comey, with whom is supposed to be part of the investigation. Trumps campaign was wire tapped, there was an apparent informant in the campaign feeding info to the FBI and quite possibly Obama and Clinton and even with the wiretap and spy, they still bother to carry on the charade of Trump/Russia collusion. Next we have the evidence of false or misleading statements to the judge to get the FISA warrant for the wire tap in the first place. The only prosecutions we have are for some financial crimes that predate the campaign and supposedly misleading statements to the FBI some of which have been found to be potentially falsified by the FBI in the first place. Finally, we have the ongoing disclosure of emails and documents that point out that the lead FBI agent was conspiring to set up Trump and protect Hillary, more communications that suggest other officials in office acted in concert to impede or conspire against the campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Before you and others start crying about how long it took to get Nixon, well, back then we didn't have computers and a lot of the records and evidence had to be obtained by court order and that delayed a lot of things. I am unaware of any court order that has been sought to get evidence or documents other than the wiretap and pretty much everyone has been fairly cooperative. In the modern age of computers and such surveillance as in todays society, this is dragging on and has become a circus. The well has been poisoned and regardless of what Mueller supposedly uncovers unless you have some amazingly corroborated hard core evidence of something big, which I think someone would have leaked by now because they want media attention, then this has all been a waste of time and a media circus aided and abetted by a deeply biased media.
Replace Mueller with someone who might actually have been impartial and who would not have a team of completely biased lawyers.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Oh for fuck's sakes. You and your conspiracy theories. You will say anything. Absolutely anything to defend trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Did you get all those talking points from Alex Jones? Seriously, get out from the cult while you still can. We believe in you!Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Didn't trump himself consider hiring Mueller? We're talking about Robert Mueller right? The 2nd longest serving FBI director? Former Marine Vietnam vet? You're besmirching Mueller now aren't you? What are you saying about him anyway? Is Mueller a traitor? Is Mueller treasonous?Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
For fucks sake you fucking moron. I have said it over and over, consistently, the SAME thing. And just because you have a nice past history, doesn't mean you can't have a political bias and your suggestion otherwise is further indication of your advanced case of Trump Derangement Syndrome aka retardation.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Mueller and Comey are buddies. Comey is a scummy piece of shit and always has been. Mueller stacked his team with all DNC supporters and donors. It is not unreasonable to suggest that he might not be as impartial as people say he is and, imagine this, that his actions and investigation have not demonstrated things like reliability, consistency and impartiality.
Of course this is what he's saying. Sad that someone could become so brain washed that they turn on American heroes to protect Russian agents.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Holy shit, one former FBI director has ties to another former FBI director. Someone call the press!Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Yes it is unreasonable to suggest that. ABSOLUTELY unreasonable. There is nothing to suggest that Mueller put together a hit team to take out trump and you're totally ignoring that LEO's are biased against criminality. It's in their DNA.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
You all still have to explain this away and I've not seen any right wingers take on Gowdy yet. He's calling bullshit on the "spy" thing and supporting Mueller and his investigation. What's the explanation here? Is Gowdy full of shit? Was he turned to the good side of the Force the way Luke turned Vader? Has he taken leave of his faculties or maybe he's kowtowing to the Justice Dept. in hopes of getting a sweet gig there after he quits congress? Someone please reconcile your defense of trump against Mueller with Gowdy's position.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...-in-trump-feudQuote:
Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), who led a House investigation into Hillary Clinton’s handling of the Benghazi terrorist attacks, offered a robust defense Wednesday of the FBI’s investigation into President Trump’s campaign and Russia.
A week after he received a closed-door briefing on the bureau’s use of an informant, Gowdy told CBS News that he had seen no evidence to support Trump’s claims that a “spy” was improperly inserted into his 2016 campaign.
"That is not a term I've ever used in the criminal justice system," Gowdy said. “I’ve never heard the term ‘spy’ used. Undercover informant, confidential informant, those are all words I'm familiar with. I've never heard the term 'spy' used."
Might as well explain this too:
Even trump's afraid to take on Gowdy. I suppose the right will ignore him and hope that they're not forced to go to war against one of their own.Quote:
ANDREW NAPOLITANO: The allegations from Mayor Giuliani over the weekend, which would lead us to believe that the Trump people think the FBI had an undercover agent who finagled his way into Trump's campaign and was there as a spy on the campaign seem to be baseless -- there is no evidence for that whatsoever.
But this other allegation with this professor (whose name we're not supposed to mention), that is standard operating procedure in intelligence gathering and criminal investigations.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/0...gowdy-live.cnn
When you post, I see this:Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/4f...282d92512c.gif
Um. It's illegal to factor in political party membership in Federal hiring. It's also unconstitutional to discriminate against someone for their campaign contributions in Federal hiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Do I honestly have to explain to you why these protections are in place?
Are you arguing that Mueller should have violated the Constitution by intentionally making sure there were "enough" people of the same political party as the President they were investigating on his team instead of hiring off of talent and expertise?
That's what you do in bananna republics. That's not what you do in a functional Democracy.
So maybe you should take your own advice and stop crying over the lack of corruption in Mueller's hiring. Maybe ask yourself why the President of the United States is arguing that we disregard our laws that are intended to stave off said corruption.
Honestly I think we should just crowdfund a ticket to Moscow for Rocktar, I think he'd really like it over there and fit in well.
He could join Putin's motorcycle club, watch Russian news without cable and do some serious LGBTQ discrimination without taking care to obscure his meaning. It'd be heaven on Earth for the guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Statistically I could likely prove that there was a consideration of political affiliation based on the content of the investigation team. I would argue that while the affiliations of lawyers is not 50/50 I cannot believe that it is worse than 60/40 and so it does indeed look suspicious and if I were a defense attorney I would certainly hammer the hell out of the apparent bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
This isn't about statistics. First off- NO ONE is arguing that these people aren't the top of their fields. They are the best at what they do. That's why they were hired by a Republican appointee of a Republican Trump appointee.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Secondly, what YOU are demanding is that we artificially stack the deck in Trump's favor by violating deeply important legal and political norms. You are literally livid at Mueller for NOT engaging in illegal and immoral corruption.
And don't pretend like this is born out of some concern for fair representation. It certainly doesn't bother you that every Federal investigation (Congressional and otherwise) is currently being led by a Republican. What bothers you is that there are still non-Republicans involved in the investigation. You're not looking for justice- you're looking to give Trump a pass.
Shame on you for rabidly demanding authoritarianism and calling it justice.
Whine and cry more please. If it was the other way around you would be throwing fire bombs in protests or some shit and we would not be able to go 30 minutes without you posting about it and you know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Actually you were the one who was whining and crying....because Mueller wouldn't violate the Constitution and Federal law by corruptly stacking his investigation with people from the President's party. And apparently nothing about that struck you and deeply corrupt.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Funny how none of your sources bothered to mention those pesky 1st Amendment and Federal statutory violations. Great sources. You should really stick with them- they're serving you so well.
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Originally Posted by time4fun
He's quoting Rush now. Things are bad when POTUS quotes Rush but he'll quote anyone who will say he's a victim. Our poor little victim president. He's about the most fragile whiny bitch to ever hold that office.Quote:
@realDonaldTrump
RUSH LIMBAUGH “If the FBI was so concerned, and if they weren’t targeting Trump, they should have told Trump. If they were really concerned about the Russians infiltrating a campaign (hoax), then why not try to stop it? Why not tell Trump? Because they were pushing this scam.”
And you're the most fragile whiny bitch to post on these forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Congrats?
This is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Do you wake up every morning and create some new nightmare scenario about the president just so you can convince everyone how much of a bitch you are when you don't get your way?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Seriously this has gone beyond temper tantrum.
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You try so hard but say nothing. It's like a little brother who just wants to be part of the group of older boysQuote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Is that like the "you didn't ask a question" response you give when someone asks you a question?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
How sad is it that all the major networks are on a death wish mission to get the president but you still want to cry over talk radio. I could only imagine the outrage over conservative telegraph.
So, where exactly was the job posting? How many lawyers and others applied? How many were interviewed? What is the racial breakdown of the successful applicants? Seriously fucknugget, there was not an application process so there was no reason to ask anyone anything other than "Do you want to come do this job?" The fact remains, the investigative team was hand picked and the members show a substantial and distinct political bias. Your refusal to acknowledge this is further proof of your disconnection from the reality that everyone else lives in and your complete and total radical Leftist bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
DEFLECT! SUBJECT CHANGE! LOOK- A BABY FLYING A PLANE!Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Let me repeat: It is a violation of Federal law AND the 1st Amendment to factor political ideology into Federal hiring. No matter what.
These people were hired because they are the best in their fields. Go look them up. Literally no one is arguing that they aren't the best. Your attempts to invent an imaginary hiring scenario based on no information and- candidly- running fundamentally counter to all logic do not change the situation. This is an insane conspiracy theory you're trying to hatch- that Trump's Republican appointee's own Republican appointee is...seeking out Democrats specifically for their team?
What you are arguing for is illegal and corrupt. You want to artificially stack the deck to maximize the number of people in the President's party on the investigation team. You are implicitly arguing that it's okay for our Government to exclude people from hiring based on their political ideology- which is horrific. That's what authoritarians do, and it's how they take control over the levers of government.
These laws were meant to protect this country from people like you.
Mueller is not the best. Sorry to burst your bubble.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Neither is Comey. Neither is McCabe.
Literally, you would have to be the dumbest person alive to believe that.
Oh hey, it's time4dum.
Coming from the guy who clearly doesn't understand who is on Mueller's team. Spoiler alert- Comey and McCabe aren't on that list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
And, by the way, Mueller IS the best. He was heralded by both sides when he started- he only started being demonized by the right when people realized that there's actually a really good chance Trump is going to be in trouble.
And you're just the pathetic little sheep who is buying into it all. Someone who is being investigated tells everyone that the investigation and the investigators are all corrupt frauds, and they're just a victim in all of this. And you can't think of any reason why you might want to be skeptical of those claims? Even after he's been caught lying repeatedly about the investigation?
THAT is what stupid looks like.
Mueller is the best? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Just look up the Atlanta Olympic bombing.. he's not anywhere near the best.
Keep living in your delusional bubble.
Has this heated up yet?
Considering the investigation hasn't ended, I wouldn't say it's cooled down quite yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Okay Mr Chalk-Full-Of-Facts. What did Mueller do during the investigation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
But has it heated up?Quote:
Originally Posted by tyrant-201
It's gone from a standard counter intelligence investigation into a full blown special counsel investigation with 20 indictments so far, guilty pleas, and jail time. So yeah, it's heated up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Mueller is widely praised as an outstanding law enforcement investigator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
You really believe it's chalk.. don't you. In your head, did that even make any sense?Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Words... HOW DO THEY WERK!?!?Quote:
What did Mueller do during the investigation?
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
OH YEAH WELL HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS THEN???Quote:
Originally Posted by tyrant-201
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthrea...n-Cooling-Down
Sorry, I mixed up botched investigations. I don't know if Mueller had a role in the investigation of the Atlantic Olympics bombing and I'm too lazy to look it up.
The botched investigation tied directly to Mueller was the Anthrax letters after 9-11.
Opinion piece on the investigation timeline by John Solomon via thehill.com: http://thehill.com/opinion/white-hou...p-russia-probe
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The bridge to the Russia investigation wasn’t erected in Moscow during the summer of the 2016 election.
It originated earlier, 1,700 miles away in London, where foreign figures contacted Trump campaign advisers and provided the FBI with hearsay allegations of Trump-Russia collusion, bureau documents and interviews of government insiders reveal. These contacts in spring 2016 — some from trusted intelligence sources, others from Hillary Clinton supporters — occurred well before FBI headquarters authorized an official counterintelligence investigation on July 31, 2016.
The new timeline makes one wonder: Did the FBI follow its rules governing informants?
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Rep. Trey Gowdy has been a pitbull investigator for Republicans for years. Now, he’s is in President Donald Trump’s doghouse for daring to challenge the president’s unsupported claim that Democrats and their sympathizers in the FBI embedded a spy in his 2016 campaign.
Trump allies have been pummeling Gowdy in recent days, branding him a gullible or clueless backer of the intelligence community. Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, labeled him “uninformed.” Another Trump-tied attorney, Victoria Toensing, said Gowdy “doesn’t know diddly-squat” about the particulars of federal investigations. And Fox News host Lou Dobbs tagged him a “RINO” — a term for a fake Republican.
Poor Trey. They're coming for him now.
Does Toensing not remember that Gowdy was a former federal prosecutor? Either way she's conflicted as she represents Clovis IIRC and also Erik Prince.
omgogmgogmgomggomgg its really gunna happen now!!!11111one1infinity!!!
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I'm not sure. Let me give them a call and ask. Brb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Nice little snippet on the collusion. The answers to the questions this raises are going to be uncomfortable for our trumpboys.
Jay Sekulow, 7/16/17: “The President was not involved in the drafting of the statement”
Sarah Sanders, 8/1/17: “He weighed in, offered suggestions like any father would do.”
Trump lawyers to NYT today: Trump dictated the statement, which they call “short but accurate”
Nah, they're still not going to give a fuck as that falls under the "He never said/did XYZ but even if he did it doesn't matter."Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
So... still no evidence of collusion?
Well, this will cheer you kids up: PUTIN AND TRUMP ARE PLANNING A SUMMIT TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the clearest evidence so far of collusion.
Congrats. You did it!!
I’m more interested in the conspiracy and money laundering charges that will be coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
followed by:Quote:
Originally Posted by SHAFT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhD3I_AZJMY
OMGOMGOMGOMG THIS IS IT NOW GUYS!!!!!!!111 TRUMP IS GOING DOWN FOR REAL THIS TIME!!!!11!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SHAFT
shut up, necroQuote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
So.. no collusion?Quote:
Originally Posted by SHAFT
Weird...
Attachment 9041
This is going to have to come under some scrutiny. Was Sekulow really this far out of the loop or did he lie for his client? I'd assume it'll go badly for Jay simply because everything trump touches turns to crap.
Sekulow was likely just left in the dark, along with the rest of the lawyers.
There could be written confessions from Trump and anyone else involved and you still wouldn't believe or care.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
But there isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
You turned into a Clinton puppet. The only explanation she lost is "ZOMG RUSSIAN COLLUSION!"
You're being played like the fool you are. Please, continue to put all your eggs in the collusion basket.
It's been hilarious reading your posts from 2016 to now.
Whatever's trendy is your political party...
Fucking hipster doofus.
Keep telling yourself that. When Mueller's investigation wraps up I'd say you're going to look like a moron but you already have that look on lockdown.
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Originally Posted by cwolff
Given your history of political prognostication... I'm sure you could be right THIS time. You are so due.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
I'd offer a make a bet with you, but it's unlikely you could afford to make one and most certainly wouldn't pay up when you lost.
Needless to say: President Trump will still be President and no amount of hoping and praying that Mueller finds something will change that. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Like when I predicted that Roy Moore was going to lose and a Democrat was going to win the congressional seat in deep red Alabama, and it came true?
Like when I predicted at the Democratic National Convention that Trump was going to beat Clinton in the General Election, and it came true?
GG, try again moron.
THIS is an example of your political prowess? Roy Moore was accused of molesting under age girls.. and your prediction would be he would lose the election?Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
YOU ARE AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
That was back in your "ZOMG I HATE CLINTON AND WILL SAY JUST ABOUT ANYTHING BECAUSE I HATE HER SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!" days. I'm just taking your word for this, since you didn't actually make a prediction in the election thread (like I did).Quote:
Like when I predicted at the Democratic National Convention that Trump was going to beat Clinton in the General Election, and it came true?
GG, try again moron.
Remember how you said she was going to get indicted? For weeks and months on end... that indictment is coming any day now. It's heating up!!
GG, try again moron.
Prowess? No, just accurate observationQuote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
I dislike her a lot, I don't hate her, and I didn't make that claim simply because I don't like her. I made it because of available data and polls. But go on, keep trying to shift the goalposts you fucking idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
If you're so sure nothing is going to happen to Trump then lets make a bet. If he gets reelected in 2020 I'll have Kranar delete my account here. If you doesn't get reelected then you have to have yours deleted. Man up or shut up.
Hey.. I bet the sun will appear to rise tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
OMG I'm as talented at making an accurate observation as you are!
Clearly you don't understand the phrase "shift the goalpost" you fucking idiot. You said she would be indicted. I said she wouldn't. She wasn't. You were wrong. There was no goalpost to move at all.Quote:
I dislike her a lot, I don't hate her, and I didn't make that claim simply because I don't like her. I made it because of available data and polls. But go on, keep trying to shift the goalposts you fucking idiot.
Wait.. if he doesn't get elected in 2020.. that means he's guilty of collusion? Are you fucking serious right now?Quote:
If you're so sure nothing is going to happen to Trump then lets make a bet. If he gets reelected in 2020 I'll have Kranar delete my account here. If you doesn't get reelected then you have to have yours deleted. Man up or shut up.
Also, I specifically stated this:
You have about as much credibility as Macgayver to hold up your end of the bet. Sorry, no one trusts you and for good reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
So Parkbandit tries to act tough behind the computer but it turns out he's a gutless cunt. Shocker. Let me know if you ever decide to man up and act on the bet, until then continue to act like the spineless little bitch we all know you really are.
You're retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
It is astounding to me that- even after reading a letter where the sitting President of the United States has declared himself immune from the law- people are still supporting him.
Let me say that one more time: in that letter, he declared himself immune from the law.
That doesn't describe a democratically elected President. It describes a dictator.
MAGA 2a'ers: "We need the 2a to defend against tyrannical government!"Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Also MAGA 2a'ers: "Emperor Trump is above the law!"
Attachment 9043Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
You're retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
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Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
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I addressed this already, prior to your "ZOMG IF TRUMP IS NOT RE-ELECTED HE R GUILTY!" bullshit. Has nothing to do with me.. and everything to do with you. You have no honor.. no moral compass. If you are willing to break up a marriage, cry because she broke up with you and steal from her to get even... why would anyone believe you would hold up your end of any wager?Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Your word means very little here.. much like it does in the real world.
Sorry. You're trying to make a withdrawal.. and as usual, it comes up "insufficient funds".
Care to specifically quote the part where President Trump declared himself immune from the law? Is this one law.. or all laws?Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
You two need to fuck and get it over with already. So pk can empty your defunct GS account.
Normally I'd give a hard pass on fucking another guy but now that I know parkbandit is a giant pussy I'm okay with itQuote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
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Originally Posted by Androidpk
This part:Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
They further argue that it is impossible for him to obstruct justice, and they're now running around saying he can Pardon himself.Quote:
Indeed, the President not only has unfettered statutory and Constitutional authority to terminate the FBI Director, he also has Constitutional authority to direct the Justice Department to open or close an investigation, and, of course, the power to pardon any person before, during, or after an investigation and/or conviction. Put simply, the Constitution leaves no question that the President has exclusive authority over the ultimate conduct and disposition of all criminal investigations and over those executive branch officials responsible for conducting those investigations
What they are arguing here is that 1) The President can't be investigated in the criminal justice system unless they want to be, 2) can open investigations into anyone they want for any reason (political adversaries, people who have crossed them in business deals, etc), 3) that they can close any investigation into themselves or their friends/family that they want for any reason, that they can Pardon themselves, their friends, and their family out of any legal trouble whatsoever, etc.
The President has authority over these issues, but the argument that they can abuse their powers for corrupt purpose with no repercussions is an extreme one. This isn't how a functional justice system looks. It's not how a functional democracy looks.
Trump has his supporters so focused on him that they've forgotten about to think about their own country.
A guy with no moral compass and multiple personalities is an AC/DC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Shocking. Really...
I'm sure you would do anything for a couple dollars and a couch to crash on.
On no, the wife beater says I have multiple personalities :/
Doesn't sound like President Trump wrote that. There's not even a "big league" or a "fantastic" in there. You sure he wrote it?Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Also, you might be reading a little more into it than what is being stated. A President has always had broad powers to Pardon anyone. Nothing has changed.
In this case, a President you dislike and are scared of has decided to use the power that has always been given to Presidents.
I am far happier that someone like Jack Johnson, Dinesh D'Souza, Scooter Libby and maybe Martha Stewart received a Pardon.. than I was that Chelsea Manning and Oscar Lopez Rivera receiving clemency.
Wait.. I thought I was divorced? Now I'm a wife beater? Was that to my ex wife or my current wife.. or maybe my gf who works at McDonalds?Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
You are so bad at everything.. even lying. What's that like to be a failure at every single thing you've ever done?
You're retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
It's why your ex wife left you, remember. She even had to get a restraining order I hear. Not that it comes as a surprise to anyone, considering all your angst.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
You're retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Not as retarded as this precious little guyQuote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
https://i.imgur.com/ZME7Kjk.jpg
Low energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Sad.
Sorry, we just celebrated our 26th anniversary last month and I've never hit a woman in my life.
Sorry. You are about as good at this as you are at your political predictions.
He's cute! Is he your love child?Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Is that supposed to be you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
I have blue eyes though, never sported a goatee in my life.
Looks sorta like me though
pk's apparently been masturbating to the wrong guy.
Also, what are your sources that are leading you to believe PB's a wife beating flowerchild?
WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
He never claimed I was a flowerchild! TAKE THAT BACK YOU FUCKER!
https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/9...d41917ca1d.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Did you or did you not attend a love-in in San Francisco, with flowers in your hair?
We had our honeymoon in San Francisco and there was plenty of love-ins that week... but I don't think I had flowers in my hair then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
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A little over 40 years ago, Richard Nixon went from a landslide re-election winner to a president forced to resign in disgrace. Nixon’s downfall was the direct result of his unsuccessful attempts to politicize through patronage of an independent, straight-arrow FBI. The commonsense, ethical lesson from this for all government officials would be to avoid attempts to use our nation’s independent fact-finder as a partisan force.
There is as well, of course, a more perverse lesson to be learned from Nixon’s downfall at the hands of an independent FBI, to wit: there is much power to gain by politicizing the Bureau, but only if its upper-leadership team is all on partisan board. Emerging evidence increasingly suggests, sadly, that this was former FBI Director James Comey’s leadership strategy in our country’s most sensitive investigations.
In the years running up to the 1972 election, Deputy Associate FBI Director Mark Felt, serving under feisty bulldog J. Edgar Hoover, staunchly refused the entreaties of Nixon lieutenants to act politically, e.g., to whitewash an ITT/Republican bribery scheme and to lock up innocent war protestors. Felt, the natural successor to Hoover, fell out of White House favor as a result.
Following the death of Hoover in May 1972, Nixon appointed in place of Felt the decent but politically malleable L. Patrick Gray. When six weeks later five burglars were arrested in the Washington, D.C. headquarters of the Democratic National Committee, Nixon’s Justice Department tried to limit, through Gray, the scope of the FBI’s investigation. Unfortunately for Nixon, regular Bureau agents, led quietly but spectacularly by Felt, fought these attempts, with a far worse result for Nixon than if the Bureau had been left alone to do its job.
In the years running up to the 2016 presidential election, Comey made sure not to make the same “mistakes” of Felt that plagued Nixon. The IRS conservative harassment scandal was swept under the rug. The Clinton Foundation, seemingly overtly corrupt, was given a pass even after the Uranium One sale by a large Clinton Foundation donor was approved by the Clinton State Department. Comey even went so far as to take the unusual step of exonerating Hillary Clinton for her grossly negligent handling of classified materials, not a decision that was his to make. More shockingly, he permitted the destruction of 30,000 Clinton emails and relevant hard drives. It strains credulity to contend that Comey would have done the same for President Donald Trump if the occasion arose.
Comey’s exoneration of Clinton clearly transgressed clear DOJ standards, although Comey makes a tenuous argument that this was made necessary by the clear bias of Attorney General Loretta Lynch. In so doing, though, he admits that the proper course would have been to recommend a Special Counsel. But, stunningly, he also admits in his recent book that he did not do so because the public might think she was guilty, a political calculation if there ever was one.
Recent revelations show, chillingly, that he involved the FBI in what appears to have been a plot to entrap, and even frame, a political opponent and his campaign regarding Russian collusion. This radical politicization of the Bureau makes any Nixonian scheme seem like child’s play. Nixon shamefully tricked the FBI into doing a routine background check on his enemy, journalist Daniel Schorr. Comey outdid Nixon by a wide margin, using his FBI to construct a false case of possible treason against a political enemy.
During the Watergate investigation, Felt sought not to frame anyone but merely to be allowed to fully pursue the bureau’s investigation, so that no one could accuse the FBI of conducting a “whitewash.” Felt and his bureau were resisting politicization, not pursuing it, even though helping the party in power, Nixon’s, would have brought accolades and perks to his leadership team.
When, in 1972, Director Gray told Felt to “wrap up” the Watergate investigation in 72 hours, a Time magazine reporter, likely at Felt’s suggestion, called Gray inquiring about the order. Gray blew a fuse, but rescinded the order. Then when Gray and his DOJ superiors limited the Watergate prosecution to the seven originally-apprehended defendants, Felt pushed reporter Bob Woodward to explore what Felt knew to be a wider campaign of spying and sabotage. When Woodward failed to understand that to which Felt had pointed him, Felt helped the reporter understand the scheme in an all-night garage session. But raw FBI information was not leaked. Felt was not giving facts to Woodward, but teaching him how to gather facts and construct from them an overall narrative theme. The result was a series of brilliant reports which transfixed the nation.
Felt only wanted the FBI to be free to do its job, and could not have predicted the extreme extent of the fallout from the resulting explosion. Many years later, this man of honor said he was “not out to get Nixon,” but, rather, “was only doing my job.” So to compare Felt to today’s weaving spiders in Comey’s FBI hierarchy does gross disservice to Felt and all who served with him, as well as the many honorable agents following.
Felt lost his career — and his wife to suicide — in the tumultuous post-Watergate catharsis. Through it all, however, he retained his honor. And until the recent FBI regime of Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page and others, there has been scant evidence of partisanship or dishonor in the FBI, as the scandal-free, effective leadership of Robert Mueller seems to corroborate. But now there has emerged simply too many highly questionable, partisan aspects of Comey’s “Russian Collusion” investigation to conclude similarly about his leadership team.
Comey knew that the Steele dossier was opposition research trash, but premised an investigation on it. After originally failing, without the false dossier, to obtain a FISA warrant to surveil the Trump campaign, he used the Dossier to obtain FBI warrants to eavesdrop on an opponent he had admittedly loathed. Rather than separating his bureau from Steele, Comey agreed to hire him, pulling out of the deal only because Steele became vulnerable as a proven leaker and liar. Comey’s entire leadership team, including number-two man Andrew McCabe, counterintelligence chief Strzok and legal counsel Lisa Page, all seemed to have been involved in framing Trump, working with partisan CIA Director John Brennan. When Strzok was being candid with his lover Page, he later resisted joining the Special Counsel’s Russian probe because he knew “there was no there there.” Did Comey inform Rosenstein of the vacuity of the charges on which the appointment of Mueller was based? We doubt it.
Baseless claims did not stop Comey. He tried to use the salacious allegations as leverage against Trump in his January 6, 2017 meeting with the president-elect, concealing their partisan provenance and lack of credibility. Part of the meeting’s purpose was to give DNI James Clapper a news “hook” to leak the dossier’s claims to CNN, which dutifully trashed Trump, and provided Buzzfeed an excuse to smear Trump by publishing the whole megillah. Comey then began making book on his new boss, writing four memos to use as ammunition against him in the future. But all of this, it now turns out, is not the entirety of the iceberg, as it seemed just days ago.
It is now coming to light that the FBI was setting up Trump ever since he became a likely presidential nominee. In late 2015, Brennan embraced a false tip from Estonia that Putin was seeking to support Trump financially, and brought Comey into an ‘intra-agency” group targeting Trump. On March 21, 2016, candidate Trump met with The Washington Post editorial board, which asked about his foreign policy credentials. To bolster his team’s strength, perhaps inflationarily, he named lowly, clueless hangers-on George Papadopoulos and Carter Page as part of his team with Russian experience — literally true, but nonetheless a strenuous stretch. It was then that the entrapping forces of Comey, Clapper, and Brennan, partisans all, went to work.
Approaches were made by “confidential human source” intermediaries to Papadopoulos, Page, Trump aides Sam Clovis and Michael Caputo, and likely others, to induce interest in Russian-hacked emails. The DOJ Number Four, Bruce Ohr, whose wife Nellie Ohr was behind the Steele Dossier, himself met with Christopher Steele.
A member of Comey’s team travelled to England around May 2016, well before the now-asserted start of the collusion investigation, presumably to speak with either or both Steele and confidential informants. It is impossible to believe that Comey was not behind all this and, indeed, he now defends “confidential human sources” as being both necessary and in grave danger, as if being run behind the former Iron Curtain and marked for execution.
One question to be asked is why Comey felt the need to question Papadopoulos with an undisclosed spy, using entrapping questions, when an identified FBI agent could have done the same job, at least the parts that constituted legitimate inquiry about Russian activity. The answer is, of course, that an identified FBI agent would serve, appropriately so, as a warning, not as a trap. Indeed, Comey and the team twice decided not to provide the usual “defensive briefing” given to innocent compromat targets. Apparently these partisans were more interested in entrapment than in patriotic assistance.
If there was any doubt about the political motivation of Comey, it was removed by his rhetoric following his ouster, clothed in talk of FBI independence and ethics, but revealing raging partisan animus toward Trump. Every American has a right to political beliefs, but it hardly behooves the dignity of a former FBI Director to speak as such a nakedly partisan actor.
Thousands of loyal, straight, politically-independent FBI personnel understand the damage Comey has done to the Bureau to which they devoted their lives in service to their country. We should all sincerely hope and pray that new FBI Director Christopher Wray will right the ship, restoring its honor and, above all, its cherished, apolitical independence.
John D. O’Connor is the San Francisco attorney who represented W. Mark Felt during his revelation as Deep Throat in 2005. O’Connor is the co-author of “A G-Man’s Life: The FBI, Being ‘Deep Throat,’ and the Struggle for Honor in Washington” and is a producer of “Mark Felt: The Man Who Brought Down the White House” (2017), written and directed by Peter Landesman.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/03/ho...-nixon-failed/
This will probably turn into a crazy wall of text, but it's a good read.
In before time4hydrocephaly, cwolfffffff, Back2thebottle or the ever defective AndroidPK yell "Fake News Website"Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
In reality, it's a good article and of course chocked full of facts that will quickly be dismissed as the Left rages that Hillary is not POTUS and Trump will be going down any minute, just you wait.
tl;drQuote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
It's an opinion piece written by the attorney who represented Deep Throat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Also, it's cwaaaaaalf.
The same source parkbandit uses to get his "facts" about me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
I mean, at least one other person has said this though. He isn't completely making it up. Whether or not they are turthful or not, there is a thread he can link. Do you have the same for him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Bullshit. Some of the stuff he's been saying is completely made up and has never been mentioned anywhere else by anybody.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
He was literally linking the posts as he was saying it, and you're still saying that other things were said. Nothing you have posted has been said anywhere else, at least that I can see, by anyone else. So please, what thread was this all brought to light?Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Please show me where in those threads anyone says I have multiple personalities, mental disorders, that I beg for jobs, that I've begged for people to allow me to crash on their couches. I'll wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Sorry, I just got this repQuote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Thread: Russia Investigation Heating Up
you are arguing with a tard
so I'm obligated to stop responding to you.
But no, I was talking about the theft, the cheating, the hatred of female masturbation, etc. There is some shady shit there my man.
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Originally Posted by Gelston
:lol:
The multiple personalities comes from your lack of any solid political principles except making pot legal. You went from a die hard Rand Paul (far right) supporter to a Bernie Sanders (far left) supporter almost overnight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Mental disorders is obvious.
Begging from jobs... dude, you were ecstatic when you landed your job at Goodwill. That's not really much of a stretch, is it?
Begging people to allow you to crash on their couch... sorry, thought that was obvious.
Ok, from now on.. let's just use the real facts that aren't in dispute: You stay holed up in your room for weeks on end, you hate it when a female masturbates too loudly when you are trying to sleep, you are a homewrecking scumbag with no morals and you have no qualms about stealing from your ex lovers to get even.
Sorry about the multiple personality crack. I will, however, stand by my political bi-polar comment. That has plenty of evidence.
Must really suck to be a bitter old man where you gotta go on a forum for a game you don't play anymore to talk shit nonstop about people who criticize Trump. Talk about being a pathetic loser. Get help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Oh man:
https://i.imgur.com/tS4IPol.jpg
But still far better than you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk