Washington Redskins will NEVER change name

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05-23-2014, 02:51 PM
Methais

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Originally Posted by Back

I don't think Snyder should be forced to change the name. But it would be very cool of him if he did. It would be another step in the right direction for a tolerant society.

What is a good reason NOT to change the name?

Why are you so intolerant of team names that you don't approve of while calling the team owner intolerant?
05-23-2014, 03:05 PM
Latrinsorm

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Originally Posted by Thondalar

If the number of Redskins fans who want to keep the name is more than the number of Native Americans who want to change it, then the name stands, right? Democracy, right?

If the form of your argument was correct, all racial slurs would be permitted.
All racial slurs are not permitted.
Therefore the form of your argument is incorrect.
05-23-2014, 03:06 PM
Methais

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Originally Posted by Latrinsorm

Since you ask, BP's market share reached a plurality in 2003 (after they introduced the new logo in 2001) then gradually declined (as they kept it).Allow me to educate you on something, Terry. This is what's called a "straw man" argument. When you make a "straw man", you purposefully exaggerate the opponent's position until it is totally unrelated. This "straw man" is a type of "fallacy". Washington has many options besides racial slurs and fairies.

What do you think about calling them the Foreskins?
05-23-2014, 04:22 PM
cwolff

Love the smug white folks telling the native american he's not correct because most people like the name.

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According to host Megyn Kelly, if most people think something isn't racist, then it's not a problem. This is a strange argument that would invalidate every improvement in the public dialogue concerning race, since African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans and American Indians are all minority groups. Ben Shapiro of "media watchdog" website truthrevolt.org said that this is not the most important issue facing Native Americans, therefore they cannot complain about it. Sportscaster Jim Gray, reading from notes we'd like to see, shared the utter falsehood that the NCAI designed the Washington Redskins logo. Wait, what? Shapiro quoted the U.S. Constitution, which is always a smart move on Fox News even if it's not relevant, and he and Kelly concurred that the real issue here is, as usual, that our darn government is too big for its britches. All three had stopped making sense well before the end of the segment -- Moya-Smith's kicker about interrupting sports was accurate when it comes to football and the sport of cable news punditry.
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05-23-2014, 04:40 PM
cwolff

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2) Furthermore, when a person takes corrective action, it usually indicates that they felt something was wrong which they had to correct. Otherwise, why take the corrective action, right? So here, if you didn't think that the word "Redskins" was offensive, then why the hell doesn't your press release say your foundation will help "Redskins"?? Makes sense, right? But no, instead you choose the MUCH MORE politically correct term, "Original Americans." Why? Because you know you done effed up. Dummy.
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Now that's a good point.
05-23-2014, 05:49 PM
Thondalar

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Originally Posted by Latrinsorm

If the form of your argument was correct, all racial slurs would be permitted.
All racial slurs are not permitted.
Therefore the form of your argument is incorrect.

But I thought the purpose of a Democracy was for the majority of people to make the decisions for the whole. Are you telling me this could lead to minorities being marginalized and/or taken advantage of and/or misrepresented and/or oppressed?
05-23-2014, 05:57 PM
Parkbandit

I can't believe this is actually a "thing".

If the term "redskin" hurts your feelings that much, why not start a donation drive to give to Mr. Snyder to get him to change the name?
05-23-2014, 06:05 PM
Parkbandit

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Originally Posted by cwolff

Love the smug white folks telling the native american he's not correct because most people like the name.

Most people aren't offended by the team name.

Most native Americans aren't offended by the team name.

There will always be those types of people around that have thin skin and get offended by something said.

Boo fucking hoo.
05-23-2014, 06:11 PM
Latrinsorm

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Originally Posted by Thondalar

But I thought the purpose of a Democracy was for the majority of people to make the decisions for the whole.

Thank the Founders the Founders gave us a Republic instead! And also a strict delineation between the public and private sectors.

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Are you telling me this could lead to minorities being marginalized and/or taken advantage of and/or misrepresented and/or oppressed?

I am not telling you that. I am merely telling you that you have no freedom from my speech. I can criticize you whenever I want, because you're not the Federal Godernment.

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

I can't believe this is actually a "thing".

If the term "redskin" hurts your feelings that much, why not start a donation drive to give to Mr. Snyder to get him to change the name?

My pointing out your error does not indicate that my feelings are hurt. Your bizarre and repeated insistence that they are is quite suggestive about yours, though.
05-23-2014, 06:44 PM
Thondalar

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Originally Posted by Latrinsorm

Thank the Founders the Founders gave us a Republic instead!

So true.

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I am not telling you that. I am merely telling you that you have no freedom from my speech. I can criticize you whenever I want, because you're not the Federal Godernment.

As you have no freedom from Snyder's speech. Criticize away, my good man.

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